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  • #21
    Originally posted by brownpimp88 View Post
    ring magazine considers the greb, tunney and dempsey era as thier first time frame in which boxing became technical.

    ****, i cant remember that guy's name but there is a historian that is 70 years old and he flat out says those guys like gans, etc are NOT GOOD, they suck. he says benny loenard sucks, philly jack o'brien is a bum, etc.
    Wow, 1 historian....must be a freakin' genius.

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    • #22
      The fact that you knock old fighters just because you've never seen them fight makes you just as ignorant as the so called idiots you talk about...

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      • #23
        Originally posted by Kid Achilles View Post
        We dont have footage of Greb but we do of guys like Loughran, Walker, and Tunney and we can see they were all highly skilled guys with heart, speed, and power (except in Loughran's case) and that anyone who could beat these men repeatedly would have to be as good as they say.

        Greb's resume is tops. You can't argue against that. Just looking at it objectively, he beat so many greats who were bigger than him that you'd have to be completely biased to not have Greb in your top ten. Even then, I think he deserves a top five spot for his record alone.
        walker and loughran were good for thier era, do ring magazine consider them as elite all time greats, nope. Loughran is not top 10 in his own division according to them.

        Then again u think battling levinksy would be undefeated in todays era, so i can tell u really jizz to thiem.

        Greb lost like 21 times and supposedly he would have 100 dqs if he fought in modern times, maybe u should consider that?

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        • #24
          Originally posted by RockyMarcianofan00 View Post
          The fact that you knock old fighters just because you've never seen them fight makes you just as ignorant as the so called idiots you talk about...
          I've seen rocky's wonderful footwork and head movement.

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          • #25
            Originally posted by K-DOGG View Post
            Wow, 1 historian....must be a freakin' genius.
            he sees the differnce in technique, what can i say. The sport evolved.

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            • #26
              Originally posted by brownpimp88 View Post
              I've seen rocky's wonderful footwork and head movement.
              Rocky did have wonderful head movement...but it stemmed from his great lateral movement....

              I also love how you say that K-Dogg has no opinion when you back up all your statements with what magazines say....why don't you form your own opinion rather then rely on magazines to tell you how to think...

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              • #27
                greb lost 21 times ?..i always believed his loss count was under 10 in nearly 300 fights...are you the regular expert on here ?

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                • #28
                  Originally posted by RockyMarcianofan00 View Post
                  Rocky did have wonderful head movement...but it stemmed from his great lateral movement....

                  I also love how you say that K-Dogg has no opinion when you back up all your statements with what magazines say....why don't you form your own opinion rather then rely on magazines to tell you how to think...
                  o i definetly have my own opinion, i have seen walker in action and i know b-hop would beat him, just dont let kid achs know that.

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                  • #29
                    Originally posted by RockyMarcianofan00 View Post
                    Rocky did have wonderful head movement...but it stemmed from his great lateral movement....

                    I also love how you say that K-Dogg has no opinion when you back up all your statements with what magazines say....why don't you form your own opinion rather then rely on magazines to tell you how to think...
                    his head movement is horrible, larry holmes would turn his face into hamburger meat.

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                    • #30
                      Originally posted by brownpimp88 View Post
                      his head movement is horrible, larry holmes would turn his face into hamburger meat.
                      Really because I seem to see him rarely get hit cleanly in the face in the more then half a dozen fights I've seen him in....

                      He seems to be able to easily slip under punches...Most of the time when he got swung at he didn't get hit in the face or the head, it would be the air over his back as he came up with an uppercut or a hook...

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