Why Ali was not the greatest

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  • King Koyle
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    #11
    I only rank Joe Louis above Ali in all-time HW rankings.

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    • butterfly1964
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      #12
      Originally posted by RockyMarcianofan00
      you forgot Willie Pep
      Ali was just as good as Pep, probably better.

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      • Lubutheimmortal
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        #13
        Originally posted by butterfly1964
        Ali was just as good as Pep, probably better.
        Did Ali/Clay ever win a round on all three cards without throwing a punch?

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        • Lubutheimmortal
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          #14
          Originally posted by Mass Pride
          I only rank Joe Louis above Ali in all-time HW rankings.
          Same here 1. Louis 2. Ali

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          • Lubutheimmortal
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            #15
            Originally posted by RockyMarcianofan00
            you forgot Willie Pep
            Yep Pep was amazing. May he rest in peace. Easily in the top 3 pound for pound.

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            • BuddyChacon
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              #16
              I think Louis was the most talented. Ali faced much better opposition and deserves the number one spot because of it. Quarry alone was better than some of the Bums of the month club.

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              • Mike Tyson77
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                #17
                How dare anyone would even talk bad about Foreman!!!!!! The Nerve!!!!!!!!


                A PRIME HOLYFIELD couldnt stop that "old teddy bear"!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Foreman even TOOK rounds from Holyfield. By round 12 Holyfield didnt think Foreman was a joke.


                And then KO'd Moorer, Foreman is an ATG and that's undisputed.

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                • Hydro
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                  #18
                  Originally posted by Mike Tyson77
                  How dare anyone would even talk bad about Foreman!!!!!! The Nerve!!!!!!!!


                  A PRIME HOLYFIELD couldnt stop that "old teddy bear"!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Foreman even TOOK rounds from Holyfield. By round 12 Holyfield didnt think Foreman was a joke.
                  So?

                  A prime Holyfield couldn't stop an old Holmes either, and lost to a chinny former LHW in Moorer. Prime Holyfield also was dropped and hurt by a fringe contender in Bert Cooper. Holyfield tended to fight to the level of opposition.

                  Are you denying that Foreman was very selective in his opposition in his 2nd career, and acted rather un-champion like once he beat Moorer?

                  Should Foreman get a pass for selective opposition and disgraceful actions just because he was old?

                  Originally posted by Mike Tyson77
                  How dare anyone would even talk bad about Foreman!!!!!! The Nerve!!!!!!!!


                  A PRIME HOLYFIELD
                  And then KO'd Moorer, Foreman is an ATG and that's undisputed.
                  And beating Michael Moorer is supposed to make him greater than Muhammad Ali and Joe Louis?

                  Please.
                  Last edited by Hydro; 12-20-2006, 11:57 AM.

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                  • GasPed
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                    #19
                    Originally posted by BuddyChacon
                    I think Louis was the most talented. Ali faced much better opposition and deserves the number one spot because of it. Quarry alone was better than some of the Bums of the month club.
                    I don't agree - if you're talking athletic talent, Ali was probably the most athletically gifted heavyweight there ever was.

                    In terms of boxing accomplishments, I would rank him the number 2 heavyweight. But in terms of overall significance, there's no doubt - Ali was and is "The Greatest".

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                    • cyberthugpatrol
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                      #20
                      Salvador Sanchez is the Greatest

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