Top 10 heavies ever, head-to-head

**GEOFFHAYES** · 12-12-2006, 12:49 AM

I think Louis beats everybody other than Tyson.

I think Holmes beats everybody other than Louis and Tyson (he'd lose to Tyson more times in 10 than he'd beat him).

I think Tyson beats everybody other than Ali and Foreman.

I think Ali beats everybody other than Louis and Holmes.

I put Holmes over Tyson because I think Holmes would beat most other top guys more convincingly/impressively, Tyson over Ali and Liston over Foreman for similar reasons.

**butterfly1964** · 12-12-2006, 12:49 AM

Originally posted by GEOFFHAYES

If you don't like it, **** off.

Louis
Holmes
Tyson (young)
Ali (young)
Liston
Foreman (young)
Dempsey
Frazier
Patterson
Marciano

Ali
Liston
Foreman
Tyson
Louis
Holmes
Frazier
Johnson
Dempsey
Lewis

**butterfly1964** · 12-12-2006, 12:50 AM

Originally posted by GEOFFHAYES

If you don't like it, **** off.

Louis
Holmes
Tyson (young)
Ali (young)
Liston
Foreman (young)
Dempsey
Frazier
Patterson
Marciano

You don't have to put young there. We all assume they were all young.

**Verstyle** · 12-12-2006, 12:55 AM

Originally posted by butterfly1964

You don't have to put young there. We all assume they were all young.

stop correcting and............

shut up butterfly

**hemichromis** · 12-12-2006, 02:00 AM

Originally posted by GEOFFHAYES

If you don't like it, **** off.

Louis
Holmes
Tyson (young)
Ali (young)
Liston
Foreman (young)
Dempsey
Frazier
Patterson
Marciano

i don't agree with it but at least holmes got the respect he deserves

****ing off now!

**BmoreBrawler** · 12-12-2006, 05:37 AM

Tyson
Ali
Foreman
Marciano
Dempsey
Louis
Holmes
Liston
Bowe
Frazier

**Southpaw Stinger** · 12-12-2006, 09:43 AM

Can't really do it. Styles make fights.

You could have one guy at the top who would beat most of the other top guys, yet that same guy would lose to one of the guys at the bottom due to a styles handicap.
Say a guy like Ken Norton, he would be low on everybodies list as he would lose to most of the top guys, especially the big punches like Liston, Foreman, Tyson etc. The big punchers would almost certainly lose to Muhammad Ali and maybe a prime Holmes, yet Norton would be able to give both of them hell and even beat them under the right circumstances.

**butterfly1964** · 12-12-2006, 10:58 AM

Originally posted by jspivey

1. Joe Louis
2. Muhammad Ali
3. Ezzard Charles
4. Joe Frazier
5. Sonny Liston
6. Larry Holmes
7. Evander Holyfield/Lennox Lewis
8. George Foreman
9. Floyd Patterson
10. Rocky Marciano/Mike Tyson

That's a crappy list. Charles shouldn't be on the list. Also Frazier and Holyfield are too high and Foreman and Tyson are too low.

**Southpaw Stinger** · 12-12-2006, 11:22 AM

Originally posted by butterfly1964

That's a crappy list. Charles shouldn't be on the list. Also Frazier and Holyfield are too high and Foreman and Tyson are too low.

Indeed thats the worst list I've seen so far. Patterson over Tyson? Foreman below frazier? Ezzard Charles on the list in the first place!

Top 10 heavies ever, head-to-head