Top 10 heavies ever, head-to-head

[butterfly1964]

Assuming they're all in their primes, this is how it works:

Ali
Lennox Lewis
Mike Tyson
Larry Holmes
George Foreman
Vitali Klitschko
Evander Holyfield
Joe Louis
Sonny Liston
Joe Frazier
Jack Johnson (Hon mention)

And frankly, I don't even know if Ali belongs at the top. The modern heavies are just too big and strong for even Joe Louis. Sorry, but that's how it works out head-to-head.

Evander Holyfield could beat Joe Louis and Sonny Liston? He has little advantages over either fighter. And plus he has a tendency to brawl when hurt, and that would spell trouble for him againat all-time great finishers like Louis and Liston.

[Yogi]

George Foreman(Unbelievable strenght and power, a handfull for anyone)

Baaah...I'm disappointed in you, my friend, and only because you've done such a admirable job over time in trying to keep the Foreman lovefest to a minimum on here.

[K-DOGG]

I honestly have trouble compiling a list based on opinions; but I suppose this list is as good as any.

[BKM-]

Baaah...I'm disappointed in you, my friend, and only because you've done such a admirable job over time in trying to keep the Foreman lovefest to a minimum on here.

Lol, i gave in. But no more i promise. No more hugging of the nuts!

[GasPed]

Evander Holyfield could beat Joe Louis and Sonny Liston? He has little advantages over either fighter. And plus he has a tendency to brawl when hurt, and that would spell trouble for him againat all-time great finishers like Louis and Liston.

Hey, Joe Louis is the better boxer, no question. But Holyfield was bigger and stronger than both Louis and Liston. He had a very tough chin, and a bully mentality (the best head in the game, if you know what I mean), and a huge heart. I don't think Liston or Louis could match up (sadly).

[Joeyzagz]

Losses in italics

1. Lennox Lewis 9-0 style to beat all styles, undefeated!
2. Muhammed Ali 7-2 (Lennox, Tyson)
3. George Foreman 7-2 (Lennox, Ali
4. Mike Rooney Tyson 6-3 (Lennox, Foreman, Holyfield)
5. Vitali Klitschko 4-5 (Lennox, Ali, Foreman, Tyson, Dempsey)
6. Joe Louis 3-6 (Lennox, Ali, Vitali, Foreman, Holmes, Tyson)


7. Rocky Marciano 3-6 beats Dempsey/Holmes/Holfield
8. Jack Dempsey 2-7 beats Holmes/Holyfield
9. Larry Holmes 2-7 beats Louis/Holyfield
10 Holyfield 1-8 beats Tyson

[King Koyle]

You put Marciano over Liston and Foreman on a head-to-head list?

I knew that was coming Butterfly.I have some problems with your list as well.For one,you don't have Marciano in the top ten at all(pure blind hate).For two,you have louis at # 4 For three,you have Liston at number two!!Your list is way worse than mine buddy!

[butterfly1964]

Hey, Joe Louis is the better boxer, no question. But Holyfield was bigger and stronger than both Louis and Liston. He had a very tough chin, and a bully mentality (the best head in the game, if you know what I mean), and a huge heart. I don't think Liston or Louis could match up (sadly).

Holyfield was actually a smaller fighter than both Liston and Louis. Holyfield was only about 190 in his mid 20's, while Louis at that age was well over 200 lbs. Louis was also in the 215lb range in his thirties, all without resistance training. Liston was always over 200lbs. in his entire career except for once, and in his prime he was 212.

[butterfly1964]

Holyfield was actually a smaller fighter than both Liston and Louis. Holyfield was only about 190 in his mid 20's, while Louis at that age was well over 200 lbs. Louis was also in the 215lb range in his thirties, all without resistance training. Liston was always over 200lbs. in his entire career except for once, and in his prime he was 212.

Plus, Holyfield was not a devastating puncher by any means. Liston definetely would be able to take his punches, and Louis probably could take tham as well.

[butterfly1964]

I knew that was coming Butterfly.I have some problems with your list as well.For one,you don't have Marciano in the top ten at all(pure blind hate).For two,you have louis at # 4 For three,you have Liston at number two!!Your list is way worse than mine buddy!

In a head-to-head list, Marciano would not make the top ten.