This article highlights the true 50-50 nature of this fight.
For instance against Joyce it was rather clear that if Dubois can put Joyce to sleep, he wins. But if he can’t then Joyce will drown him with volume.
Wardley vs anyone has always been about if he lands clean.
In this fight they both have mediocre-at-best defence and high power in their back hand. Both are therefore vulnerable and neither has clear advantages in any area of boxing.
So who lands first? Seems many pick Dubois bcs of his background. Frazer Clarke said Dubois has an excellent jab. But against Joyce he lost the jab battle from the first round. So is that a skill issue or an execution issue under pressure? Either way it is not as obvious as some make it out to be.
In these kinds of fights one aspect is also the damage that each fighter has accumulated. Even in this aspect they are evenly matched. Wardley took a lot of punishment in his recent fights with Parker and Huni as well as the first Clarke bout. However Dubois has taken his own fair share of punches to the attic against Joyce, Hrgovic and Usyk.
Bcs of all this it is so hard to pick a winner. But I’ll pick Wardley due to his confidence. However that’s a 55-45 kinda pick.
Excellent bag work by The Tipsy King! This W really showed his doubters even the much feared Arselingbek Bagmudov was no match to him. He would KO Itauma in 3 rounds. Looking forward to the build up and cancelation vs Joshua.
Hate for wilder here is weird. It’s not like he has an army of vocal fanboys overrating him. One dimensional but top 5 AT HW KO power.
It’s racism towards extrarestrial hybrids. Till this day.
Rumor has it his team is working on a superfight against Katie Taylor - Holly Holm winner. I think his experience will make him the favourite against either.
It’s all jealousy.
When people watch Devin Haney fight they wish that their own mother hugged them as kids like Haney hugs other men in the ring.
Also very few people in their childhood on xmas ever got a gift decision against a 3 weight champion.
Simple as that.
Zhang has many ways to victory, Wilder has a puncher’s chance. Twerkin’ Deontay going down for good.
If Wilder manages to survive to late rounds his chance of landing his bombs goes up.
Great goodbye fight for the loser and a good scalp for the winner either way.
Dubois vs Hrgovic also a good fight. Two guys with lots of power but little to no defensive game. Gotta favor Hrgovic for his chin seems much better so far.
Great matchups both.
Sometimes a fighter is stopped on cuts , but a fighter NEVER starts a fight with a cut ............just for the lunatics and haters!
It will be a pleasure to come on here may 19th , with these so called boxing 'fans' under their little rocks.I wonder what this fool will say when Fury knocks the fuk out of Uysk ?
May 19th you’lll be here making excuses for Fury making excuses for not fighting Usyk again and anyone who disagrees is a lunatic hater. Usyk, Eddie Hearn & boar farmers will be to blame.
The saltiness will be off the hook when canelo whoops bivol.
And lol at those weird ass haters who act lik canelo "barely" won a rd. You guys need help ya some sick little ****s. To just blatantly lie to yourself simply for the reason of hate.
That fight was a clear 115-113 or 116-112 type fight. Canelo won't be overconfident he'll put a beatdown on Dimitri this time.
Haha your story is about as realistic as The Little Mermaid. It was 10-2. Very clear. It was extremely one sided and Canelo was helpless most of the time.
How is he gonna put a beatdown on a guy who is bigger and has better stamina? No. He is going to lose again and the only way he won’t is if he does nothing and is given the nod. That’s it. If he tries to fight he will get stopped. Last time he stopped trying after Bivol hurt him. He was content in cruising for a another robbery win like GGG 1.
Bivol has the reach, power, stamina, footwork and speed over Clenelo. Canelo has superstardom which won’t do much besides skew scorecards. It is hopeless for him.
This is not a shock. 1st of all Yoka was a drug cheat which helped a lot since 2nd of all his style is not suitable for pro boxing.
The juice does not help only physically but mentally as we can see. He is clearly afraid of the opponents and extremely afraid of getting hit. He is like a chicken running from danger completely content on taking the L as long as he doesn't get punched too hard. No eye of the tiger, no toughness.
Harrison and Yoka are prime examples of how success early on destroys fighters in the long run. Both look like they'd rather be anywhere else besides in the ring during their fights.
You can be a good boxer while being an awful fighter and that's Yoka in a nutshell. Takam made Yoka look like the old journeyman and that's something you can't come back from. Yoka is done.
This is exactly what Hrgovic has looked like. He always fought like a guy in love with his own strength and power. His defence is poor and the ability to land his power is pretty basic. A very limited boxer who has not transitioned well to the requirements of pro boxing. Zhang fought a total war with Forrest and in this fight he landed all the big bombs.
The main thing was, Hrgovic didn't do anything about the shots landing on his face, he changed nothing.
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I am having so much fun exposing wall-eyed buffoons and lames. You were the one who got triggered over my comments, trying to come in guns blazing and ending up looking like an idiot. Don't be mad that I made it look easy due to your own narrow-minded talking points - "Oh he said, she said, they said".
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Oh yeah you are making it look sooo easy dodging the first simple question asked of you after your nonsense comment : D Instead of complimenting yourself you could, I dunno, just answer, you know. Or are you too much of a little PAB?
There is no burden of proof. Its not a court of law.
To be clear, your take is that Helenius is so shot, a half arse tap to the head from Wilder - that anyone else would ride out - is enough to cause Big Bob to get KTFO.
From my perspective, that fight did not pass the eye test and i cannot see how the pawing punch wilder delivered could be capable of doing the damage Helenius claimed.
Sorry champ but there is nothing to convince me Helenius did not take a dive or of being such a bad actor that he couldn't sell it.
All that aside, what do you predict for Helenius when AJ lands a better shot on him in the first round ?
Will Bob have suddenly developed better punch resistance against AJ than Wilder ?
Is a clean AJ shot not even half as damaging as a pawing Wilder one ?
Thanks for letting me know it's not a court of law. Burden of proof is a basic concept of making an argument.
I really recommend you learn Occam's razor, Hanlon's Razor and Hitchens's Razor. You're violating them all and they are really good tools for critical thinking
Occam's razor is simply that the simplest explanation is most likely and therefore should be assumed. In this case it's that Helenius got KO'd
Hanlon's razor is that an act of incompetence is more likely as an explanation than evil intentions, in this case again your idea of conspiracy goes against this. Hanlon is just a version or Occam's razor.
And Hitches's razor is that what asserted without evidence can be dismissed without evidence. Your lack of evidence means your silly claim of a fix can be dismissed as you have failed to provide evidence.
Now you can call me daddy and take off the foil pls.
If AJ landed the same punch coming in and it rattled Helenius's brain the same way he would get knocked out obviously. Sometimes you see guys take monster punches and stand, sometimes lighter looking touch knocks them down. Helenius definitely has not improved his punch resistance, so if AJ needs more hard shots to KO Helenius then it's likely bcs Helenius sees them coming, unlike he did with Wilder. How do you watch boxing without understanding f all about it? This is like explaining boxing to my grandma but she has dementia, you probably don't.
Keep your Post fair & straight Buddy
Fury hasn't fought AJ or Usyk sooo no one one knows what would be the outcome
Also
You said that Fury beat 2 World N0.1's....Lol
FYI
Klitschko who was also beaten by AJ
& Wilder? Yes was a WBC Champion but tell us all the world champions that he beat? Ortiz Breazeale, Arreola?
Fury Fans are hilarious
Don't downplay Fury's resume. He beat the unbeaten Tom "Monster" Schwarz, he beat "Big" Sefer Safari, Fransisco Pianotta and Christian "Rubber" Hammer. Next he's facing the baddest man on the planet with a record of 0-0, 0 KOs.
Did AJ beat Seferi, Schwarz or Dereck "WAR" Chisora 3 times? No. Obviously AJ knows he can't beat these guys. Usyk never faced Pianetta? Schwarz? Exactly. Luke Fury is the GOUT.
Agree with Warren here, the fight has a 0% chance of being made in December and about 1,8% chance of being made early next year. As long as Usyk doesn’t want any money and he won’t punch or move then it will happen early next year.
Tyson himself said it in the post fight interview: ”Quack quack quack!”
So the best heavyweight in the world went life and death with Dillian Whyte who was completely hapless in his previous fight with Tyson Fury.
The best heavyweight in the world has Rydell Booker as his best win.
Sommin ain't right.
Not trying to make excuses for Wilder, but it was a set up. You're telling me Wilder after being off 2 years and fighting one round since getting knocked out had to fight a former heavyweight champion as a tune up? But Joshua is back and better then ever because he beat up his sparring partner? With that being said Wilder needs a real trainer.
True. And Wilder got an L. ”L” stands for Lizard so it’s certainly the reptilians behind the setup. Ppl rly need to open their eyes. They spiked Wilder’s suit with egg weights and paid Malik Scott to give Wilder psychedelics between fights so Wilder can’t stop the Freemasons from taking over the world with covid vaccines. This was the only way they could stop this 75% man, 25% extratestrial species.
And some folks think Wilder simply is a bad boxer and over estimated his own skill and ability. Makes no sense. It was an obvious setup. #truthisoutthere
Zelensky bans his 2 largest political opponents, that corrupt country is run similar to Russia and nobody was being saved by mass murdering those people, putin says he's saving people too
Putin is a pathological liar so who cares what he says? In fact the opposite is true usually so he killing intentionally killing civilians.
Wartime breeds different kind of politics. It is easy to sit and judge when a country is fighting for survival. Ukraine is a very corrupt country but this war is about Ukrainians wanting to join the Western democracy alliance. Russia wants Ukraine for themselves.
I will judge Ukraine how it conducts itself after Russia is driven out. They are in a crisis now.
Btw what makes you say there was no mistake w. Iraq? Just curious.
LoL at all the hate coming from clowns, directed at Deontay Wilder. These mouthpieces couldn't go in a neighborhood bar and KO anyone, let alone the number of guys Wilder KO'ed consecutively who were professional HW boxers. It doesn't matter what you think of those pros. There is no doubt most of the mouthpieces couldn't get a win against any of them. Let alone KO them. LoL! So disrespectful, ignorant, and cowardly ... like keyboard warriors tend to always be. Truly b*tcha$$. LoLoL!
Wilder's career is what it is. He started late and did the best he could, given everything. He had a good championship run, and every fight was exciting and must-see until after his decline (after the Fury fights). He made his millions and it doesn't matter what you clowns think. I'd like to see any one of these mouthpieces demand another fight, with a guy who knocked them out badly (Fury), and then drop the guy on his a$$ a couple times. You coward haters gotta show some real manhood and worthiness before you can earn the right to trash a former champ. No matter what you thought of them. But slacker-hater-cowards have no honor or integrity.
Mouthpieces would not go near a guy who KO'ed them previously. Probably wouldn't even fight a pro boxer. Probably bully women and kids and people half their size. Throwing shade at Wilder. LoL, You clowns have never earned the right. Mental midgets, cowards, kids, and b*tcha$$ girly men no doubt. Y'all are sad but honestly, hilarious. No concept of manhood before you would judge another man.
Fighters ALWAYS deserve respect. It takes a man to get in there. Until you've taken a HW punch to the head, you should just remain quiet, if you had ANY honor and integrity. Hahahaha. merry Xmas.
Grow up kids. :boxing:
Exactly. Mustn’t disrespect a champ who’s autopsy proved Fury was cheating with egg weights.
TILL DIS DAY!
RIP Olympic boxing :D Who tf voted for this Putler's assistant? World is a sad place when horrible people can just buy their way to power.
Will be interesting to see how long until IBA is a sidenote of a joke as an organisation and what happens to olympic boxing now. No one should support an organisation with this kinda guy as the lead.
Oluwafemi will ko Chicken leg squad. Wilder has made his biggest fan his head trainer which has led to a weird rebirth of his boxing style in an attempt to heal the trauma from the spanking he got from Fury. He managed to KO a guy 12 years past his prime and probably now thinks he is a slick boxer. Oluwafemi just face a real slickster in Usyk for 24 rounds so he will land both hands from the get go while Wilder does his bambi dance and twerking around the ring. Cannot wait for the excuses from the world heavyweight excuse champion and his fans.
“Only time I get water is during the break. I’ve just been doing things like that to challenge myself, doing things that have never been done before, or that you don’t really do in boxing. I wanted to see how my body adjusts to the long length of time without a break. When you can go a long time without taking a break, you’re in shape.”
So insightful. When you can go a long time without breaks you’re in shape!!!
And who would have thought no one does shadowboxing and pads in boxing. Or drinks only during breaks. That’s amazing how Wilder and Scott are revolutionizing this sport in 2022.
Fury is a great champion. He has a total of 3 title defences and takes on an undefeated boxer with a record of 0-0 with 0 KO’s. Like Muhammad Ali said: Bloat like a bumblebee, squeal like a pig!
I don't really care about Compubox. It's what some drunk guy does up in a booth, smashing buttons. Those guys don't now what they're doing. I remember seeing a fight where Compbuxo said the guy landed 35 power punches but in reality, he only threw 14 punches in total and didn't even land all of them. That's not an exaggeration. Compubox is not something to go by. Plus Compubox doesn't say who landed the cleaner, harder punches.
Loma won easy. Simple as that.
That's the thing, not only is it clear from watching the fight, it is also supported by the drunk compubox stats and the general public that clearly Loma won.
Loma landed not only more but did more damage. Haney was not better in any aspect and yet he won in the judges eyes. I wonder if it got anything to do with 3 'Merican judges, fight hosted in America with an American fighter facing a Ukrainian.
Its funny because he was deontay Wilders sparring partner so you would assume that he can avoid the right hand lol.
No way? Well, he isn't quite like Tyson Fury I have to say.
Doesn't look good for Coffie either. He seemed almost completely helpless against punches coming at him. Rice wasn't doing anything awkward of special. Just boxing fundamentals.