i dont think you can really argue Vitali not being a great heavy weight champ already i dont even think the division is in as bad shape as everyone says i just think the way they win there fights over everyone makes it look worse then it is. im not saying there the best heavy weights ever by any means but i think them going down as two of the greats is already a done deal. and as for Haye if he wins hes on his way but i wouldn't be calling him an all time great yet