Run....
I have never gotten to see him fight. I've heard he's a notorious street killer. Is that the case ?
lee Murray was recently stabbed and sits in a hospital in not good condition as we speak.
he runs a bounce/bodyguard company in england.
he is a good fighter but not anywhere close to top 10.
You guys are stupid. A world class professional boxer would kill any other type of fighter. That shits for movies. It's usually immature rednecks who like that stuff anyway. If those guys are so fucking tough, then why don't they go into boxing and rise to the top and score a 5 or 6 million dollar payday, instead of winning their tournaments and getting what?...some measly little 15,000 dollar purse. Nobody, outside of the simpletons that follow that shit, takes those idiots seriously. They do what they do for less, because they can't do what the Holyfields, Toney's, Durans, Haglers, Robinson's, etc.... do for so much more. You mean you don't think that if Holyfield wanted to be an MMAE'r (what ever the fuck that really is) he wouldn't know how to fucking kick someone. Or grab them and wrestle them to the ground. That's ridiculous. I spent 12 years in the amatuers boxing, and was fortunate enough to know some professionals who took time to spar with me and help me. It was pure amazing to see what those guys could do up close. If they got into a street fight with someone they would mangle their face with one punch. And what the fuck does it matter if their in the street or ring. You guys are the same type of guys who believe that the military has people like 'Rambo' who go out and over-throw countries on their own. Boxing takes years to perfect. Unlike that bullshit that just any redneck in a bar can do.
we finally got a real life troll, and i'm gonna take the bait.
you sir are a moron.
boxers are good i agree they are infact the best at using their hands. I'm not denying that. BUT what i am saying is that if taken out of their element they will be beaten. A boxer is no good on his back or on the floor in general.
I'm not denying the fact that and MMA fighter could eat a killer punch trying to get inside and get KO'd but i will day that at a minimum 7 out of 10 times the MMa fighter will get inside and get his goal of a clinch and a take down.
Just as it takes years of training and practice to get good at boxing it takes just as much time to get good at grappling, kickboxing, muay thai, wrestling etc... We aren't talkin about Tae Kwon Do or Kung Fu here we are talking about guys cross trained in sports/fighting styles with proven practical application. These fighets box and box often, they kickbox and wrestle in the same ammount.
Yes the boxer will be better at boxing in most of cases but the boxer will also know absolutely nothing about the other areas of the fight putting him at a distinct disadvanteage.
basically what i'm saying is your wrong.
no boxer would beat an MMA guy in an MMA fight
very few MMA guys could beat a world class boxer in a moxing match (I say this because MMA has attracted quite a few world class boxers and kick boxers.)
in a street fight anything can happen cause your not talkin about rules your talkin about rocks, sticks, knives, bottles, etc..
I've watched world class boxers train MMA (Shannon Briggs) standing he is a killer. but as soon as you break past the punching distance into clinching distance (which isn't hard at all, look at Ruiz) by what m00ks says Ruiz should get KO'd everytime he rushes in with his sloppy looping clinch boxing bullshit.
Fact of the matter is Boxers can shut down a boxing clinch but once they clich wit ha grecco wrestler within moments they will be on their ass. I'm just talkin a decent county lvl grecco wrestler. With relatively the same result fro ma freestyle or folk wrestler.
A boxer in a clinch would have a better chance with a thai boxer that wants to stand there clinch and knee because the boxer can still work uppercuts and bod hooks but woiuld likely eat quite a few knees for not knowing how to defend propperly.
as for a grappler or jiu-jitsu guy the clicn is less effective for them because they have put in less work on takedown and mostly all work on once its already on the floor. they are typically versed in just enough to get them there tho its no refined like a wrester who'd game is the takedown.
All in all I like boxing mixed with wrestling. a boxer with a sprawl is devistating in all facets. look at Frank Trigg. Good boxer great wrestler nearly no submission background, very affective!
The Squared Circle got owned again and i didn't even have to say anything. LOL. I didn't even have to re-post RunwithKnives took care of it! and even if he didn't my first post to him cleared it up agin anyway. HAHAHHAHAH
as for my 13,000 posts I've been on the forum for about 3 years i think.
sure, compare any 40+ year old 'boxer' boxer to an MMA fighter and im sure the boxer would get squashed.
take out b-hop, and put in someone like...jermain taylor...ricky hatton(who isnt bad at wrestling) etc...paciauo..id even give a motivated gatti a chance because he has lights out power..
floyd mayweather would dominate as well, imo..nobody could shoot for that guys legs. mayweather would dance around the guy landing lead straight rights lol.
Lee Murray is 42. roughly the same age.
Yeah but his fist strikes were not his strength. If he could get Tyson in an akward position:
he would use his best facet. His elbows. Tyson has the natural strength advantage of course...but that never stopped Royce when he fought Severn. And Dan was a strong MOFO.
I would see it as grueling, but Tyson would have some problems attacking that spider monkey.
I think Royce would jump guard thinking its no problem and eat some mean GnP.
Tyson wins via death. lol
It's hilarious how you guys idolize these MMaer's. No one, outside of the small pocket of retards that worship them, have ever heard of these lame duck losers. Just a bunch of ex-construction workers at best. The only thing sadder than them is the fools who wish they were them. Get a life you bunch of losers. Perhaps you all think Hulk Hogan could beat the top ten heavyweights today. After all, he does have the atomic leg drop, and if that didn't work he could always use the flying elbow smash.
crawl back in your hole you narrow minded in unformed bastard.
let me guess you voted for bush right?
as for the kick boxer kickin a boxer in the head, a kick to the head is not unlike a hook to the head and can be evaded the same way.
the main worry of a boxer is and should be the leg kick.
because the boxer is planted so cemently for power in his punches his legs are prime targets and will lose his legs that much faster along with his power.