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^^^Bwahahaha... that is some funny as revisionist hogwash. I knew it was a bad idea to get into a pig wrestling match with a dumbfück...My bad. As you were... So not only did you refuse to answer my questions. You even refused to quote me in the hope i would forget about this? Nothing was revisionist. Not one jot. You'd be able to point out specifically where if you actually believed what you're saying. But you can't. The only one who comes out with fantasy on a regular basis on here is you. It's out n' out delusion.

Senile fugh your losing your mind That was money king inserting my name Now fugh off Someone messed up when quoting. Easy to do when the place is filled with idiots like yourself. But that was a quote from Moneyking. Do you remember writing it? Exactly. But you still got confused. No, you f3ck off. Maybe put your brain in gear before making a comment.

Povetkin was 40 as was Wlad and Whyte had a dislocated shoulder and was fighting AJ one handed. AJ can survive if he's hit on his chin by an elderly gentleman or a cripple. Against a fighter without those issues we have seen what happens What has age got to do with the power of the punch and not folding like you said when they land? Talk about a fallacy. Whyte can be clearly seen throwing both hands. Therefore, he wasn't one handed. Was he? He was against Ruiz in the rematch but it never happened when Ruiz landed, did it? So again, you're wrong. Also, you either show heart or you don't. Your fallacies don't even come into it. But i expected this reply as the idiocy is far too great for it not to. Welcome to the thread. Another dribbler is in town. Just what this place needs.

Age comes into it because if you are a tired old man who has no energy to follow up when you hurt an opponent, then it is much easier to survive. Like I said, AJ can get out of tight spot against elderly opponents but against young, prime opponents once he's hit on the chin that's all she wrote. But Wlad and Povetkin could, and did, follow up. I could even ask you what Wlad and Povetkin were not able to do when they faced AJ compared to their early years. But you'll either ignore this or deflect. Nothing will make any sense. Neither Povetkin or Wlad performed like tired old men. It's on video for all to see. But after you made the original comment, you've backed yourself into a corner. By the way, AJ was dropped by Dubois in the first round. It wasn't until the 5th round were he was stopped. If he didn't have a good chin, a puncher would have put him away there and then. But he didn't.

No easy fights for Joshua from now on - Turki said so lol. AJ takes on the best. As i say, he's not Fury who is the one who went looking for easy fights. What's with the "LOL" in every comment? How old are you in the head? Nothing you wrote was funny or even amusing.

Yes Hattyman i'm talking about you - or some call him hatman strikes his mothers back AJ lost AJ got DESTROYED Aj looking sounding like a loser in Nigeria. Fury did not get splattered. Enjoy the picture {"data-align":"none","data-size":"large","data-attachmentid":32403882} AJ has never in his life come close to being dominated by a fighter like John McDermott the way Fury was the first time round. Plus, Fury has never even faced Dubois. He hasn't even faced AJ. He ran away and slandered him from afar instead. Nor did AJ get pinched for steroids like Fury. Enjoy that picture.

Sap features gotta face Bakole or Wilder next or maybe Dubois. {"data-align":"none","data-size":"large","data-attachmentid":32409903} Wilder is not a big fight. Wilder's a bum. AJ ran him off too like he did with Fury. Bakole is a hype job. All he's done is beat a nobody in Anderson and lose to Hunter. Not exactly worthy of getting out of bed for.

Parker has been written off since day one when he beat Fat Andy fairly and squarely. He's been jobbed of a strap by AJ and a decision by Whyte who have ducked him for a rematch ever since. He ended the Wilder hype train and took the best Zhang had to offer, got up and outboxed him to end that myth as well. While Doobie is presently full of beans, Parker will be the best boxer he's faced excluding Usyk. Only thing inevitable is Parker earning a shot at a 2nd title and me supporting my Pasifikan bros through thick n thin. For one people from tiny island nations we have a claim to produce the best fighters. No hype, no bullshït, no luck involved. Just blessed with fast muscle twitch, dense bones, big hearts and a true warrior heritage. Dubois is spesh too but in a needy way that makes him vulnerable to mental lapses which will prove his undoing against The Mighty Oilskin Parker...imho. The hype for Parker was huge before the Ruiz fight. Then it went a bit down. But was still pretty high. Parker wasn't jobbed of any strap by AJ. He lost in a lopsided fashion. Nor did he beat Whyte. He clearly lost that too. It was only after Whyte gassed late on did Parker claw some rounds back after not doing much at all beforehand. Wilder's hype was well and truly extinguished before he even fought Parker. Wilder was also inactive. Zhang had a stylistic advantage over Joyce that had people not too smart pick him as this beast. The truth however was very different to that fantasy though. Good fighter. But has clear weaknesses. Joshua, Joyce and Hrgovic are better than Parker. Two of them had already beaten Parker clearly. You can support someone without claiming they're going to win every fight and making up stories like a child towards his opponents. Your nation isn't even in the discussion for producing the best fighters around. You should know that is pure delusion you're talking there. The ones you do produce, were never close to being the best in their weight class and were beaten pretty handily more than a few times. Dubois will knock Parker out. His jab will be a huge problem. Then an even bigger problem with follow the jab.

He'll end the Big Doobie hype train! ​​​ How many times have you said things like this only for the inevitable to happen? Good luck, yeah.

AJ was knocking people out before Parker but ran and made pleading eyes at the ref for help knowing the fix was in. Whyte was saved by the ref and the bell of which Hearn probably had a helping hand in. Joshua, Joyce and Hrgovic would get beaten handily by the 2025 version of Parker. I'm a writer of short stories n films. Making 'em up is my money for jam. Pasifikans aren't a nation, we're a people that currently has Parker, Opetaia, Mea Motu, Huni and Teremoana Jr represented at the highest level and coming through. That's just in boxing and off the top of my head. Who you got as best fighting peoples...Nigerians, Irish Travelers, Mexicans ? Sure Doobie got a jab on him and hit clean will give a solid platform to work off. I'm fairly sure the plan is not to get hit clean and while Parker will get tagged he's got the conditioning to shake it off. Doobies best punch is a lowblow and his best defense is a headbutt. If the refs do their job Parker wins this running away but dont count that Parker can drop him and stop him as well. Parker was actually the one running and disengaging against AJ. AJ was on the front foot, remember? If you think a few moments to get the tape sorted was the reason to why Parker lost, you're even more deluded than first thought. Parker was losing the same way before the tape came loose as he was after it. He tried to keep the fight going by tearing it himself but the tape is strong. In no way was he gassed and looking for a breather. That's fantasy that was made up to discredit him by bitter weirdo's. Show me at which point Whyte was saved by the ref? The bell i'll grant you because he was gassed. Although not surprising considering he was the only one willing to do any work. But Parker's a warrior? LOL. The versions Dubois fought would beat Parker handily. Parker hasn't even really made improvements. He just fought a fraud in Wilder who refused to throw anything. And a Zhang who was made into something based on the stylistic matchup with Joyce. Zhang hasn't beaten anyone else of worth. None of them are the best at what they do accept for Opetaia. But who has he fought other than a shot and and horrifically inactive Briedis? He hasn't beaten a single world class opponent. And he still struggled both times. Name other sports, "Off the top of your head" where your people are the best in the sport? Because in boxing you fell well short. The Brits, Americans, Russians and Ukrainians. They're the best fighters in the world. But thanks for the insecurity with the "Travellers and Nigerians" comment. Both were born and raised in England where they were moulded. Have them be born in New Zealand or "Where your people are from", and they're going nowhere. You don't produce fighters who become the best in their division. You never will either unless it's dead like Cruiserweight. Well it's clear you'll have your typical excuse ready if there's so much as a accidental low blow or a clash of heads. I look forward to your usual pathetic comments of absolute delusion and desperation afterwards. We both know it's coming.

^^^Thinkin' of you's workin' up my appetite. Lookin' forward to a little afternoon delight. Rubbin' sticks and stones together make the sparks ignite... By refusing to engage you admit it's just a load of rubbish what you come out with. Support Parker. That's fine. Just leave the lunacy out of it.

I was having this discussion today with a boxing fan in the pub and we couldn't decide. Personally I think prime Arreola would probably beat Joshua up, although Joshua has a better resume, I think they are hard to split. Arreloa was a complete bum. He wasn't even fringe level. He's nowhere near to AJ's level. Arreola goes to sleep in one sided fashion. I see you didn't come back to justify your comments. But you clearly still have AJ on your mind. He has you emotionally hook, line and sinker. A nobody wouldn't be able to do that. But if you must dedicate time to all this. Go ahead. But it's hilarious what he's got you doing.

In all their posts the one thing that is never discussed is watching the actual fights. It is assumed that because something happened according to some mechanism that it must be the same. So for example, even though Wilder was shot horribly when he fought Zang, it's the exact same process as when Joyce for Zhang. And then there's no discussion of what follows. Everything to the Euro bumps occurs in a vacuum lol. Then they go and reanimate Sid knee, The worst of the lot lol. Where are you getting this bizarre idea that people on this thread didn't watch these fights? How much glue are you actually sniffing? But go on, what actually happened in these fights? Please do tell. I'd happily go over them with you if you want. You obviously seem to think we're missing something here.

You still don't understand why what you said was rtarded? Yeah, go on. Explain and give me another good laugh at your expense. If someone makes a claim that a fighter was ducked, you're supposed to give the names and the time this supposedly happened. Being incapable of doing so, clearly shows he's talking shlt. Just not as much as you are. You've won the gold for dribbling on this thread. So much so, your shoes must make a constant squelching sound when you walk.

You still aren't listening... My claim is not against any promoter in particular. The horses mouth? Someone who is a lawyer, privay to all aspects of the negotiations and whom you witnessed overseeing a contract? Your an idiot. You name checked Eddie Hearn you f3cking spazz. This is what you wrote... "So you assume like most super Eurofans that you know the finer points of negotiations. Falling for the crap that Eddie Hearn and his ilk manufacture. You haven't a clue about these negotiations... None of us do. What we see are the results of these negotiations... The process? It is media controlled, and used to manipulate fans who do not know better... casuals like you Gimp! :lol1::lol1:. It was years before Don King and later Satanic Bob were exposed to fans" That is a direct quote. You clearly said Eddie manufactured it all, even though Ortiz' team have come out and admitted they got it wrong. They never said anything about small print or what not. They asked for 10 Mill when offered about 7. This is all public knowledge. You can't provide any evidence that Ortiz and his team had problems about any small print. You in fact, manufactured it in your head. Didn't you? Nothing i said was a lie. None of it. You're the liar here. You're the moron here. It has been made very clear. Regardless of how detached from reality you are. *You're I rest my case.

Your emotions are getting to you Maybe try reading cause I didn’t post that But your post shows me how old you are :wave: I think it's you who needs to read things properly. That comment was made by Moneyking. Go and read the original comment and you'll see.

lol you are so full of shiate:nana::lol1:. The man could not be more specific... Dmbss If he gave a time between 2014-2018 and no fighters that supposedly ducked Ortiz, then it's quite clear to even simple people that he isn't being specific. Do you need help with the definition of the word? I need to see if that particular fighter stands up to scrutiny on whether they ducked or not. That's why times, dates and fighters matter to someone who isn't a village idiot like yourself. It's vague. Hence, no specific explanation. Moron.

No... You can look and see exactly when Joyce started losing fights. You can see him fall down unable to make any adjustments once his gimmick is up. It's all on tape in his fight. He could not even beat a fighter who averages six punches or so around at best, when Joyce was averaging and untold amount of punches a round. He was exposed. Yeah, who would have thought styles make fights where nearly every fighter in history has found that out. Very profound logic there. Again.

Gimp, you post like a 4 year old with autism... Not reading your rant sorry your not worth the read. I'm the one who posts like a 4 year old who has autism? You lack serious self-awareness. You are reading it all. It's that you just can't answer to your comments so want out real quick. Don't worry, it's been made clear you're way out of your depth here. You're a fantasist and that's a fact.

Yes Joyce was exposed... When was the last time he beat a decent fighter? Has a lot to do with watching the way a fighter loses... You know tape? Watching the actual fight? You come here every once in awhile to vent ****** crap. It's a joke. You're a joke lol. Wilder, Ortiz and Frazier were exposed then. When did they last have a decent win after they lost the first time? Frazier and Wilder lost in one sided fashion. Joyce was actually ahead on my card at the time of stoppage in the first fight but the ref wouldn't allow him to continue because of the eye. Zhang was fast running out of steam too. I'm not the one talking crap here. You are. And i don't come here that often because it's filled with idiots like you. Why would i want to go through the same situation over and over again where the idiocy is obvious with all the hypocrisy and contradictions? Then there's the refusing the answer basic questions to the comments that they made. They deflect like a looney. Who would want to do that all the time?

Translation: " why no... I do not understand! I understand perfectly. But you have deluded yourself repeatedly. So i asked you to spell it out. But guess what.... More deflection. Not once have you been able to justify anything directly. Just rambling like a loon trying to play smart and failing. I knew you were an idiot before. But you've really hit the ground running on this visit. I'm a big ad hominem disaster am i? When did i answer a question with insults like you did? You mean, you don't even understand how an ad hominem comes into effect? As i say, trying to play smart when you're this dumb is the disaster. I'm asking you straight questions you can't answer. What is this "Tangible critical thought" you're going on about now? You know what the questions are. They're simple enough. But you've been caught out so have gone on this deranged gaslighting episode to wriggle from answering them because you simply cannot justify anything you've written. Narcissism and st3pidity are a horrible mix. It's like vodka and cornflakes. Only, you've gone really soggy very quickly which makes it much worse. Don't worry, i had the answers way back when you first started deflecting. You made it very clear then. I don't need to see your deranged struggles any longer. But you have revealed yourself to be worse than i first thought, so there's that at least i got out of this. That and watching you make a complete tit of yourself.

So you assume like most super Eurofans that you know the finer points of negotiations. Falling for the crap that Eddie Hearn and his ilk manufacture. You haven't a clue about these negotiations... None of us do. What we see are the results of these negotiations... The process? It is media controlled, and used to manipulate fans who do not know better... casuals like you Gimp! :lol1::lol1:. It was years before Don King and later Satanic Bob were exposed to fans... Yeah, Eddie manufactured Ortiz saying he was ready for AJ on video while he was preparing for Miller. Eddie manufactured Ortiz saying if Miller pulls out for whatever reason, he'll step in. That he's been training for some time. Eddie Manufactured offering a multi million dollar contract only for them to say they were worth 10 Mill. All this on the record with all the evidence there for anyone to see. Then when Ruiz got the gig, Ortiz's team putting it out there that they got it badly wrong. Well duh. Of course they did. They were paid only 500,000 for the Wilder fight. But apparently, after getting knocked out, your money skyrockets even though you don't sell tickets or generate any money. Yeah, Eddie manufactured all these facts. Haha. The only one manufacturing anything here is you with all your bullshlt and lunacy. You can't even justify a simple comment you wrote. I asked you to, but you came out with all manner of nonsense to deflect. Normal people get straight to answering the question. Not deflecting. That tells us everything about you and your non stop nonsense.

The prime Ortiz was better, but he got jerked around like Cuban fighters often do. Joyce was fast tracked for success like British fighters tend to be. By the time Ortiz got his shot, he was too old. Joyce was old as well. That's why he was fast tracked. How did Ortiz get jerked around?

Not really a fan of Wilder. I do tend to like the Cuban fighters. Wilder has shown proof that he is a devastating puncher. Because that proof has to be ascertained through watching his performance rather than evaluating his record does not negate the fact. It can be verified through his fights with fury. He can also be verified that after those fights he was effectively shot. Zhang's power can be verified through his fights with Joyce. A fighter with a better chin than Fury. Joyce can also be verified after the Zhang fights to be effectively shot. Some more great logic there.

Yawn... Yawn yawn Translation: You've got me bang to rights. I've been made to look stupid so i'll pull all the ad hominem attacks and what not. Great one.

hes just doing classic fanboy circular logic. wilder was great for beating ortiz, ortiz was great for losing to wilder? makes no sense of course. parker and dubois have both been in with the best and they won some and lost some. ortiz and wilder lost to everyone else not named ortiz and wilder. It's straight crazy what he's saying. None of it makes any sense. The contradictions and hypocrisy he's coming out with are insane. Apparently, Ortiz is better than Joyce because all Joyce did was beat fighters in a weak division. Forget that Dubois and Parker are superior to Ortiz with Ortiz beating nothing but garbage before Wilder. But apparently, Ortiz wasn't in a weak era and that's why he was able to beat those bums, and therefore prove he was better than Joyce. Makes perfect sense doesn't it? LOL. Seriously, he must have gone through a whole tube of glue in one sitting. It's the only explanation. No one is this backwards are they. Are they?

He was an awkward southpaw with power & skills. He was the WBA interim champion 2x & was supposed to fight Joshua after Klitschko, but they found a way to wiggle out of it. Fury, Joshua, & Klitschko wanted nothing to do with Ortiz at his peak. The only time Joshua wanted to fight him was on short rest when Big Baby Miller tested positive for PEDs & he had fought 2 months earlier. Show me these performances where Ortiz was awkward? I want to see these supposed awkward skills. A bum who couldn't hit a house right in front of him doesn't justify Ortiz being an awkward southpaw. It just means his opponent is clearly lacking. The IBF and WBA released statements clearly explaining that the IBF mandatory was first in line. The WBA's one was to confirm that to be the case and that Ortiz would be next after Takam. But Ortiz ran to Wilder which was a much easier fight and for a lot less. Ortiz was even signed to Matchroom so there were no promotional obstacles in the way. At which point could Wlad face Ortiz? Give me a time and date. Don't just make it up and hope everyone has forgotten about it all. When could Fury face Ortiz too? Ortiz said he was ready for AJ at that time. This was even before Miller got the chop. Ortiz said he'd been in camp and was in great shape. So they offered him the gig only for the usual ducking to take place with that ridiculous price tag they asked for.

Like a lot of Cuban fighters with tricky styles, he got avoided by a lot of the top fighters of the division. Now, he didn't help himself by getting suspended, but he should've gotten his shot before that. Ortiz didn't have a tricky style though. He wasn't an awkward southpaw. And his movement is definitely not something to write home about. Who avoided him? All i saw was Ortiz getting opportunities after talking then backing away to fight some more bums. At which title should Ortiz have got a shot at? And at which point in time?

ortiz actually left matchroom before joshua-klitschko even happened which obviously makes the fight a lot harder to make. 100 percent his fault. Mar 29, 2017 Luis Ortiz seems to have ended his relationship with Matchroom then he failed a drug test and had his mandatory status stripped before joshua even had another fight​. 100 percent his fault. Sep 29, 2017 — Luis Ortiz has failed a drugs test​ Oct 20, 201​7 Luis Ortiz Suspended By WBA, No Longer Mandatory To Joshua not sure why people just make things up as if ortiz didnt completely self sabotage himself ​ Oh i thought he left just after the Klitschko fight when he found out the IBF mandatory was first. The crazy fans still claimed AJ ducked Ortiz after the test fail. They said he should have just fought him anyway and that he was using it as an excuse. It was all over here at the time.

So? It was unable to win fights at a certain point. Does it really matter? Same thing with many fighters including Wilder and Ortiz. But you're not saying they were exposed. You're only saying that for Joyce. That's straight hypocrisy. Then when you add in the fact Joyce has a better resume than Ortiz and Wilder combined, it makes this much more absurd. It matters to you because you're the one who came out with this idiotic nonsense in the first place. Normal people accept that Joyce is clearly a better fighter than Ortiz. But for some odd reason, you want to protect a complete hype job in Ortiz. Even the the nonsense of Ortiz being ducked was a load of fantasy. But people like you still want to run with that bullshlt for some weird reason. It isn't going to make that bum Wilder look any better. It just makes him and the people doing this, look like the jokes they clearly are. They couldn't do it in reality, so they made up this fantasy world instead. Bizarre.