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Maybe they did? I honestly don't give a shyte. If you don't then why are you saying it. Look I get your passion for your fighter. And I hope you enjoy his future fights. Good night to you sir.

I know that you're just another upset Joshua fan who is annoyed at looking like a fool. You've been liking pro-AJ/anti-Fury posts for months, i also recall you predicting Joshua to knock Usyk out, so i guess that shows how much you know about boxing. Like i say, Fury could retire now with an amazing legacy, however i agree that ideally he needs to beat Usyk and unify the belts to cement it and go down as the greatest HW of this era. Beating bums like Whyte, Ruiz & whatever other ex-AJ victim you want to list doesn't really add to that legacy. Now I know your confused. Yes I'm an AJ fan, and yes I'm disappointed that he lost. Obviously. But I did not predict Joshua knocking Usyk out. I said I felt that Joshua could win but that I feared he wouldn't. I looked at it objectively and tried to see it from a neutral point of view and said that I was favouring Usyk. In fact another poster accused me of not being an AJ fan lol. Sorry but I didn't predict a Joshua ko win. I think you have me confused with someone else. And I'll also tell you that I don't see him winning the rematch but will still support him. I still fancy him to beat Fury though. Like I said. Fury still got that work to do lol.

Whyte knocked him out in sparring years ago. I believe whyte beats him, but sparring has no bearing in this.

The referee started deducting points from Chisora for no reason, thus forcing Del to open up and look for the KO, and thus being forced to leave himself open. It's not just me saying this, go back and review the fight thread. I remember one of Eddie's refs letting AJ call his own breaks not long ago. Eddie doesn't employ refs. The BBBofC appoints a ref who is registered with them. Your knowledge on this seems to be lacking somewhat.

Yeah because there's absolutely zero corruption in boxing is there? These ridiculous scorecards/robberies we see every weekend are all just coincidences I suppose. You appear to be very wet behind the ears. I don't think so. So why don't they get one of Frank's refs for the Whyte fight. Or maybe see if they can rope in Mick Hennessey's ref that was used in the first McDermott fight. Have you heard yourself lately? I think your afternoon meds are wearing off.

Did i say i wanted Fury to duck Whyte? I said that NSB experts are now claiming that Whyte would KTFO Fury, just like they predicted McDermott to beat him, just like they predicted Chisora to beat him, twice, just like they predicted Wlad & Wilder to KO him with ease. Fury is levels above guys like Whyte, as I've been saying for nearly a decade. Fury beats everyone, and haters are just gonna have to get over the fact that a fat gypsy is the best HW of this era. Fury has to prove it though. He's only better than who he's beaten. Joshua for sure has beaten better quality than Fury. But he still has lots to prove. In my opinion Usyk beats them all. But he still has to prove it also. And for the record I think Whyte beats Fury. But not them all. He is all wrong for Fury. And big John knows it. But Whyte has to prove that also.

Fury is already trying to get out of fighting the Wallin Whyte winner. I'm sure if Wallin wins, Fury will have no problem fighting him. but if Whyte wins, all of a sudden Fury will make up 100 reasons as to why he cannot fight Whyte. That is why is keep calling Fury a fraudulent champion. Yes he fought and beat Wilder but name another top 10 fighter he beat. Chisora? Who has 11 losses? Like other guys said here. If Fury drops the belt instead of facing Whyte. It is a duck. Nothing more. And from the sounds of it, he's already setting it up to be that way. Possibly. All this I'm the greatest of my era BS will be his excuse to not fight anymore as he'll claim the others are not worthy. His Dad has already said as much, by saying its Usyk or nobody. I feel a sharp exit coming on. If he wants to be the best, he has to clean the division out. All he's beaten is an overrated, protected Wilder. You don't get bonus points for continually beating the same guy.

And that’s exactly my point if you can beat someone prove it......fury might beat Joshua but he hasn’t proved it....Tyson might keep usyk at bay with his long arms but he has to prove it. Anybody can be the self proclaimed best fighter of there era but if you don’t face and beat the best in that division then others will argue with it. Lewis was the best of his era because he beat all the top fighters of his era in Holyfield , Tyson , ruddock , klitchcko etc. Tyson as champion has only beaten wilder , but as of yet has proven he can beat whyte , usyk or Joshua. If he don’t face whyte and refuses to face him then he gets stripped like any other champion who refuses to face the number 1 contender that’s how it works 100% mate. It's not too much to ask is it? He'd never get away with it in a gypsy fair fight scenario. He'd have to man up and prove himself. So why does he think he can get away with it in the boxing world.

because it's another bs fight just like wilder 3 .. fury needs to fight usyk/joshua for unification .. time is of the essence .. these guys aren't getting any younger Thats true. But its not available right now. So in the meantime he has to play the game and clear his mandatory. This is boxing.

So now the goalposts have shifted yet again eh? First, it was "Fury has never defended a title" and now its "Fury has never fought a mandatory" lol What are you going to cry about after Fury beats Whyte up? Those are factual statements though. He's also never unified.

Did you watch Whyte vs Chisora? Del boy won the first one and was winning the second until Eddie's ref got involved. Fury would beat Whyte exactly the same way he beat Chisora, easy work. Whyte is sloppy with limited skill, you need more than toughness to beat the Gypsy King. Whyte is rubbish, he should've lost to Parker, got chinned by an ancient Povetkin, got chinned by a green AJ, was dropped and hurt by Rivas who isn't even a HW. See when you come out with comments like Eddie's ref, your making yourself look as pathetic as Wilders fangirls. Ive always said Wilder and Fury fans are basically the same.

He is already the best and has been for some time now. See my sig, Fury is #1 by TBRB, Boxrec, Ring and any other ranking list out there. Beating a bum like Whyte means very little. ​​​​​Fury could retire tomorrow and still go down as the best HW of this era, and if he beats Usyk to unify then it isn't even a debate. That's your opinion. And I respect you for having it. But he has to PROVE IT. When you continually beat only one top 10 fighter multiple times, all it proves is your better than that fighter. It's the heavyweight DIVISION. Not the heavyweight JUST ME AND WILDER DIVISION. The heavyweight JUST ME AND WILDER DIVISION is as credible as bridgerweight. So Fury better start fighting some real quality and stop talking the BS

I saw Whyte get knocked out by a pensioner only last year. That's factually inaccurate. And if you want credibility as a poster you might want to work on interjecting some truth into your comments.

He has proven it, that's why he's ranked #1 by the panels of experts who compiled all those rankings. Some random guys opinion on boxingscene doesn't change the fact that Fury is #1 ​​​​​ He has a case for current no1. He's not in my opinion, but he has a case. But he has not proven he is without a doubt the best heavyweight in the division. Largely due to the fact that he has only fought one guy and has yet to fight the rest. That's the part your clearly not getting. If Josh Taylor beats Terence Crawford can he say he is the best WW? No. He has to fight the rest. If Rolly Romero beats Gervonta Davies, is he the best lightweight? No. Has to prove it against the rest. When Mike Tyson beat Trevor Berbick, was he undoubtedly the best at that point? No. He still had to go on and prove it by cleaning out the division and beating the best. I get that you idolize Fury and fair play to you, but you must recognize he still has work to do. I'm a Joshua fan. And prior to his first defeat I felt he was the number 1 heavyweight. But I could at least recognize the fact that he has to go out there and continually prove himself by beating the best guys. Not just say "Oh well he beats Wilder and Fury, so doesn't need to fight them, so that's that then ". Fury still has plenty to do. Maybe he will, maybe he won't. But he has to make the fights and prove so.

Yeah, Fury was very fortunate to get a decision against McDermott. Thanks for proving my point. You're not very bright are you? So your saying that, the only reason Fury is still unbeaten is because they paid the ref in the first McDermott fight?

And with all of you who are claiming that Whyte gets KOed or he is no good. So what. The point is to fight and see who wins. Upsets happen all the time in heavyweight boxing. That's what makes it interesting. You don't win a fight by claiming you can beat a guy. You win it in the ring. And you guys are supporting Fury ducking all the good heavyweights. That's not what boxing is supposed to be about. Well said. Do we say Barcelona wins the champions league then not play the competition? These guys need to get a grip on reality.

in the minority yes but let Tyson prove it ......beating wilder does not make him the best of his era....if he beats usyk and Joshua then undoubtedly he’s proven it and I will commend him fully.....but as of yet he has not proven it Your making way more sense than that other guy Lmao.

Fury haters, you gotta love 'em. Fury-Whyte would go exactly the same way as Fury-Chisora 2. You could be right there. But you know what.? Opinions don't make you great. Proving it does.

You can't address any of the points I make, you just come out with stuff like 'Fury needs to prove it' despite him already dethroning two long reigning world champions.. Anyway I'm bored of this debate, you can't win with haters like you and Plunger. After Fury beats Whyte and Usyk no doubt you'll claim that he needs to beat Hrgovic or whoever else is flavour of the month. Fury needs to prove it is the point lol. And after he beats Whyte I'll say he has to fight Usyk/Joshua winner for undisputed. Not sure where your pulling hrgovic from lol. That type of comment makes me wonder if your wet behind the ears. I have to take my son's home now anyway but I enjoyed the debate nevertheless. Good day to you and stay safe.

Whyte has freakishly long arms? Why can't he keep anyone off him then? How did Povetkin get inside and knock him out? How did Parker have him out on his feet and stumbling around the ring like a drunk? The only people Whyte has ever outboxed is Rivas, a midget who still managed to drop and hurt him, and Browne, a complete bum who didn't even do any training. Wilder must be able to box a bit, otherwise anyone with a big right hand would be a 5yr world champion. Rest assured, Wilder would leave Whyte in a stretcher. Like I say, Fury is already #1, has been for ages, and even if he beat Whyte he wouldn't get any credit for it, just like he now gets no credit for beating a superior fighter in Wilder. Keep telling yourself that. He still has to prove it.

How exactly is Whyte all wrong for Fury? As for Joshua, his best win is still Fury's sloppy seconds. You're very much in the minority opinion. I just feel he is. He has freakishly long arms, to nullify Furys dancing away from him. And he can box, as opposed to Wilder who can't. Joshua still beat the same guy and a better version, so that cancels that out. All Fury is living off if is 2 names and Joshua has one of them. He should try proving he's great rather than claiming it. If he does that then fair play to him, but until then, he's got a lot of work to do.

It has some bearing they were boxing each other in a ring with gloves and Whyte knocked him out, styles make fights. Yeah I get what your saying, but that's training, and they could have been trying things out, and at different stages in there respective camps, or one may not have been in camp at all. It's like saying that the winner of a pre season football friendly matters. It doesn't. The fighters evolve and motivations and levels change along the way. Imo it really has no bearing at all. The same with amateur fights.

I was responding to complaining about title's be vacant, and him not being chosen to fight for any of those title's. I've stated my opinion, and you've stated yours, there are factual points in both of our stated opinion's. I was pointing out out that Subriel is fighting for a title in the near future, Regis isn't because his approach was off as well. Don't get me wrong about Regis he's a damn good fighter, and he proved that in his only loss to Taylor, who in winning looked like the loser due to the facial damage caused by Regis' fist. I hope that if Subriel does beat Jeremias, that his next fight is against no other than Regis, and that's going to be a bloody battle between two of the best fighters in the 140 pound division. That said I've got Subriel winning that fight by a brutal knockout after a barn burner of a fight as you so aptly put it in your reply to my post. By the way virtually everyone makes statements on social media professional boxers are no different, they are only human and succumb to the same things that are current. What Subriel said was that SHO Time had offered Regis the fight, and he didn't take it, then he further stated send me the contract I'll sign it, and even go to your backyard to fight you. The YouTube Video's on this subject are 1. CMD Boxing Reports 12/22/20, 2. YuLu 12/20/20, 3. Tru School Sports, and Regis' reply on 4. 3KINGS Boxing World. I just want to see this fight happen, and for Regis Prograis to stop saying that nobody is mentioning his name, or wants to fight him because he's lying to the boxing fan's.:boxing: To be fair to both, I believe Regis when he said that he wasn't offered that fight, and he's pretty much right in that, nobody really mentions him. But to be fair to both Matias and yourself, Matias is probably one of the few, and the last that I can remember, that has actually mentioned him, but that was some time ago. And whilst I believe that Matias probably believes a contract was offered, I also am of the opinion that, that has been what he was told by way of appeasement. Showtime are pretty good at claiming to their fighters, that they offered this and that, and they basically didn't. Just look at the amount of call outs from Ortiz, and claims of all these contracts sent, and nobody wants to fight him. It's nonsense. And it takes Matias mind off of a fight he wants, and steers him in a direction that both Showtime and PBC want. There's no way they were offering anything to a guy who wouldn't sign for them, and wanted to remain promotionally free. Regis was a fool there. He should have signed for PBC and good fights would have followed. But he overestimate his popularity. It's a fight Id love to see. It's a 50/50 imo, but I lean to Prograis, as I feel Matias has defensive deficiencies. But would not be surprised of the result either way. Here's hoping we get that fight in the future.

Frank doesn’t have the pull anymore. Probellum were offering great money, however all the Kinahan stuff and now losing their deal with Eurosport has definitely made things complicated. They have no shows scheduled as of now to my knowledge. I feel sorry for all those and MTK fighters who may be in limbo. Some are just trying to get traction after lockdowns.

Watch out guys. I sense another you tube, bogus 50 mil offer in the works. Deontay needing some love.

Well....There was also a key piece of info left out by Bob. The WBC refused to back the fight, and Taylor can't fight in the US due to his ties with MTK. That fight would have landed in the UK on sky lol.

Maybe at 135, but not at 130! I would like to think it would be at 130. Makes for a decent fight. Has GRJ not got Rey Vargas to deal with. If so I guess that's his yearly fight.

Exactly this! This too. The WBA were supposed to be doing away with all the regular belts and actually started doing it then suddenly about turned on that decision. Then next you know all these PBC fighters start going after regular belts. And when they get them, the WBA never orders any mandatories. Yet they order them for the same belts when contested by 2 non PBC fighters. Not to mention that those PBC fighters get upgraded to full super champ when they're vacant, so they don't actually have to fight for them. On top of that look through all the WBA rankings top to bottom stacked with PBC fighters. And so many interim belts too lol. Not hard to see what's going on here. Spoiling boxing to the core.

Parker should take it. He had an active 2021 and should be ready as he'll ever be. I believe he will. He didn't the first time because the Chisora rematch was in popular demand in the UK. He wanted to prove he is the better man and bigger payday also. Now that's behind him. I think Hrgovic is the plan. Hearn mentioned it after the Chisora rematch.

They hold the belts this is who should be called out. If Benn was calling out champs it would be completely different. He is calling out fighters that he thinks are past it and unavailable. That's fair enough. But this article is about him wanting Thurman. He's hardly past it. Just unavailable. And this is not name dropping by Benn. He'd definitely take that fight if he could get it. It's more name dropping by Hearn, as he should know better, that he'll not get Thurman for Benn. In fact I'm fairly sure there will have been no attempt to get that fight. They're focusing on trying to get Ramirez.