He's yawning at the immature name calling.
It's on both sides, and it gets old.
i hung up the other night before you guys talked about roy the other night... do u think he has a chance? I hope he pulls it out but I just dont know if he has it in him at this point
how do I bash floyd? All I said was that floyd didn't have to be psychic to know pac would walk away from negotiations based on pac's history of being difficult at the negotiation table.
thankx, I like her big booty too
could be a flight or fight response?
no that was a good post and I agree, i was just refering to the majority of your posts just today...
Im done talking about the pac-floyd saga though.. we have a great card this weekend to watch and the next 3 months is loaded with great fights... Nothing like getting a keg and having 10-15 people over to watch a ppv/great card.. setting up the beer pong table outside to pregame before the fights with beautiful weather... the season is here boys!! I'm pumped, how about you?!?!
Yeah I know... I was looking for a single Pacquaio thread today and I couldn't find one.
Sucks man. :nonono:
do you think your boy is gonna knock him out? I hope clottey fights hard all 12 rounds...
Eh, why's he my boy? :)
well usually a poster puts a picture in his avatar of something he is passionate about... hence I love hot asians with big tits
Floyds fans have little to do with why people hate him. Floyds skin color has a lot more to with it.
i disagree with that... he is loved by the mainstream...
If styles truly do make fights then RJJ has some hope.
He needs to be more offensive and try to outwork Bhop.
His only hope.
if he does his normal shit of laying on the ropes and trying to play possum.. he is in for a long night
when did i offensive fight? i pointed out how he gets caught in the offensive often, he gets caught by bums, if he fought offensive against oscar all night he would've been out
your thread is stupid as fukk anyway, bunch of little retards that have only started watching boxing this year and know fukk all about anything
dude first off u are 18 years old, so you dont know shit about boxing!!!
second, the man in your avatar fights identically to floyd... so STFU
Some crazy things are said by Mayweather fans. No way he is even greatest of the decade if he beats Mosley. I am not a hater and Mayweather is alright but most serious boxing historians agree he has been to carefully moved his whole career and avoided too many fighters to carry Mosley's jockstrap.
come dude, give credit where credit is due....if he beats mosley and pac, he is definitely in the discussion for top 10 ATG..
floyd didn't have to be psychic, all he had to do was observe how pac is always ready to walk away from the negotiation table (see negotitions for dlh and hatton) and then extrapolate
also
dude u use to be a good poster and now all of a sudden u have an agenda at bashing floyd... i dont get it... nice avatar
Can those who believe RJJ will win give me a fight breakdown please....I'm highly curious to what you guys think...even if you think B Hop will win break it down too if you want.
Thought it would be good to see a lil discussion based on something other than drug testing and ducking etc so please don't bring any Mayweather or Pacquiao hate in here!
I love RJJ, and I have my doubts trust me, but I think this is a fight Roy can win... Roy can no longer beat a fighter who throws a 100 punches a round... he just cant do it... he needs an opponent that is very technical to have a punchers chance...
I find him pretty annoying. He enunciates his words too much lol. And I hated how he totally grabbed the mic off Floyd when all of us wanted the interview to continue (postfight Marquez)
agree I was upset he ended the interview like a baby... as if the interview was about Max Penishead Kellerman
so he'll take blood tests for STD's or diseases 19 days out but for PED blood tests it has to be 24... gtfoh.... something is fishy as hell... we r not that fuccking stupid... he either is ducking floyd or he is on roids... plan and mother fuccking simple... its one of the two and u pacfarts can not say anything to cover up or back this $hit up...
24 days was compromise enough for something Floyd stirred up out of paranoia. Floyd supporters always bring up floyd agreed to give Manny 10 mil for every pound he comes over 147. That ain't no compromise, that is a guarantee against being dishonest? If that was not in the contract is floyd going to come in over 147 and get the advantage. Well he has done it before. He is a small welter and 147 is cake for him. The only thing being compromised here is the issue with the blood testing period. Manny is willing to do it but a compromise is 24 days from not doing it at all, Manny being the only fighter Floyd has ever required to do this out of his paranoia.
he just had blood drawn 19 days out!!!!!!! How stupid are you??? he can have blood drawn inside of 24 days with clottey but not floyd!!! dude, c'mon u can't be serious in trying to blame this one floyd... your boy is hiding something or he just ducked floyd...
Why not? Mosley vs. Mayweather has OST's. So will all Floyds future fights. Hes leading by example. More boxers should do the same. Its a contract thing. Not a commission thing.
even if floyd doesnt mean well by having OSDT, dont you all as fans want to make sure you are watching your favorite sport clean of drugs?? c'mon, look what happened to baseball, its almost a joke now because other than a few great players every damn player has been found of using... I want to see two athletes competing at a high & fair level whenever I watch a fight... don't you all?:popcorn:
exposed of what? he just passed the drug test. I can prove that the mayweathers are drug addicts and trouble maker. Thats documented and not based on fantasy.
this test wasnt for peds for one and pac said he wouldn't have blood drawn inside 24 days because it makes him weak.... well he just had a damn needle in his arm and blood drawn inside 20 days... whats your excuse now?
You talk about compromise how bout no blood test at all. Who is making the demands here out of paranoia. What the anti-doping agency recommends is of no consequence, they are not the paranoid ones. Erik morales has known issues making weight. Floyd has no issues making 147 anything over 147 floyd does is just to gain an unfair advantage and you know it. What is the problem with the 10 mil for every lb over when Floyd can make 147 easy and should make 147 for the fight anyway. You are thinking flogically as well. Your saying Manny should just impose a 100k penalty so floyd can do what he wants and come in at 150? that aint right. If Floyd has no plans of gaining the advantage then he would not spend 10 mil anyway right. no harm no foul like it should be.
this has nothing to do with the the pounds over 147 why do u pacfarts keep trying to hide the fact that your boy has just been exposed!!!
we shall wait and see how many PPVs sell for both Pac vs Clottey and Floyd Vs Mosely and see which one sells more..
dude u r smoking something if you dont think may vs mosley doubles pac vs clottey... the fight is in five days and no one gives a shit
This ^^^^^^^^^^^
If it doesnt happen than Manny needs to just retire....
Floyd has tons of options to enhance his legacy and fill his pockets...
I have always wanted to see Floyd vs Cotto so Im hoping Cotto looks great against Foreman...
Dont get all pissy with me everyone but these r fights I want to see Floyd fight...
My list
Cotto
Khan
Pwill
Sergio
Maidana
all are big name fighters that will bring money and other than Khan at this time all build legacy
Burn the witch! Burn the witch!
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PS: Your #5 favorite fighter has a close relationship with Victor Conte. What you gonna do about it?
if he is a user than he should be repremanded and suspended and I will definitely think less of him... is that what you wanted? lol
What is the last fight of this magnitude that didn’t come off?
BOB ARUM: I remember Bowe and Lewis not coming off when everyone thought it was going to come off. Tyson and Foreman was being negotiated and that never came. Tyson and Holyfield didn’t come off until a number of years later. These things happen but it doesn’t happen all that often. No fighter on my watch is going to get bullied by another fighter. That other fighter, Mayweather, was totally out of line in making the demands he was making to the fighter. Any of those demands should have been directed to the Nevada Athletic Commission. You cannot have independent agencies taking all kinds of testing. It creates chaos. If the Nevada commission has testing, you have to subject yourself to the test. You can’t have baseball players calling out other baseball players to take tests.
Do you think the Mayweather fight will eventually get made?
BOB ARUM: Only if the Mayweather side agrees, they can have any testing they want, but those issues have to be brought before the commission where the fight is taking place. No fighter is going to be able to dictate anything like that to a fighter of mine without going to the commission and petitioning them to adopt those rules.
Manny, do you believe Mayweather does not want to fight you?
MANNY PACQUIAO: What I believe is Floyd Mayweather is not ready at this time to fight with me. That’s why he makes the reasons to cancel the fight. I feel bad and disappointment because he is accusing me of using drugs or whatever and trying to ruin my name in boxing. People know I have been successful through God and hard work.
Maybe he is afraid of me or maybe is not ready for this fight. I am disappointed at what he is accusing me of. I really feel bad but I have no anger toward him. This is boxing. That’s his style. We cannot change that because we are different.
What about your election?
MANNY PACQUIAO: In the election I am leading and the start of campaigning is March 26 so it will not be until after my fight. After the fight I will go back to the Philippines and start campaigning. It is going to be busy. I want to pass some bills that will be good for the livelihood of the people there and education for the children.
What do you mean by Mayweather’s style?
MANNY PACQUIAO: Some fighters like me we can be the greatest fighters without fast words and trash talk. His style is talking a lot of trash and it is not a good example for everybody.
If your career ends without fighting Mayweather, will you be disappointed?
MANNY PACQUIAO: I don’t really need Floyd Mayweather because what I have achieved in boxing is good enough for me and people know that by comparing my achievements in boxing to his achievements.
Will you take full advantage of the weight limit?
FREDDIE ROACH: He will weigh in at 147 and he will go into the ring at 149, 150 max. I am not worried about his size. Size doesn’t win fights, skill does and it won’t be a problem.
I have read reports this could be your last fight?
MANNY PACQUIAO: This is my last fight before the election. I am not saying I’m going to retire. It is hard to say right now when I’m going to retire but this is my last fight before the election and I’m very excited about it.
BOB ARUM: As far as I am concerned, he is the best fighter I have ever seen some people may or may not agree. If he decides to retire after the Clottey fight and I would hope that he wins the election and I would give him a big party to commemorate his career in the US. If he continues to fight and then retires later I would still give him a big party. To me he is the best fighter I have ever seen. You have to understand, I’m an old guy but I’ve never seen Marciano or Robinson fight in person and I can’t tell very much from watching the film. But that includes fighter like Sugar Ray Leonard and Muhammad Ali, Marvin Hagler.
Is there a status report on the lawsuit?
BOB ARUM: That lawsuit will establish beyond any doubt that these innuendos and assertions made by that whole group of defendants, Mayweather, Shaefer, De La Hoya, the other two Mayweather’s, have absolutely no basis in fact and are pulled out of thin air and are really fueled only by jealousy. It is absolutely outrageous what these people have said. That will be affirmed in the court of law. They have not answered the complaint. They have to answer he complaint by the end of March.
Can you tell us why you would retire after fighting Clottey?
MANNY PACQUIAO: I am not saying retire. It is hard to say right now when I would retire. I am still fighting and we’ll see.
BOB ARUM: He is not saying he would retire after the Clottey fight, quite the contrary. Obviously one of these days he is going to retire. After the election he may retire or he may fight. He is leaving the options open.
Do you think Manny is the best?
FREDDIE ROACH: I do think Manny is the best fighter I have ever trained because from where we started to where we are now he is the most improved. His discipline and dedication is unbelievable.
How is your health?
FREDDIE ROACH: I just went to the Cleveland Clinic and I got a full check-up. The guy told me I am the healthiest Parkinson’s patient he has ever seen. I am on the right medications. I am on mild medications because of my strength from fighting and he said don’t worry; I am going to live a long time. So I’m going to be around for a while.
BOB ARUM: On Friday we are celebrating Freddie’s 50th birthday.
FREDDIE ROACH: Thanks for reminding me Bob.
Would you be content if Manny never fought Floyd?
BOB ARUM: I would absolutely be content.
FREDDIE ROACH: I would like to shut him up of course. Obviously he is just going to have to go by the rules. It is like saying we want to fight five-minute rounds. Commissions do that, not fighters. If you let him have his way it’s like giving away the first two rounds – it’s crazy. I do want Manny to fight him and I know Manny would knock him out and then the whole world will be happy.
MANNY PACQUIAO: Yes, I’m OK. I don’t need to fight him.
What type of boxer can beat you?
MANNY PACQUIAO: When I get old.
What about the young fighters in the world today?
MANNY PACQUIAO: I always watch them and I like to see them train and give them advice. Those young fighters in Puerto Rico are good fighters.
How do you feel about Miguel Cotto?
BOB ARUM: I think Miguel has had a great career and he’s a fighter that has never been afraid to get in the ring with anyone. He gave Manny Pacquiao, the greatest fighter of our era and in my opinion the greatest fighter I have ever seen, he gave him hell for the first six rounds. He fought his heart out. He’s a wonderful fighter. In June he will fight for another world title against Yuri Foreman in New York. He’s had a great career and he’s been a big star. More importantly, he has matured as a person. He is a great person right now. He has a lot of businesses. I am very proud of Miguel.
Is there anything that Clottey brings to the table you are anxious about?
FREDDIE ROACH: He is a very strong guy and he’s a strong puncher. His best punch is the uppercut but we will not fall into that pocket too often to let him use that shot. I do have a lot of confidence in my fighter and the reason why is the way he has been sparring. We have big strong guys that fight a lot like Clottey. Manny has been handling them with ease in sparring. We had our best day of sparring yesterday – 11 great rounds and Manny pitched a shutout. We use four sparring partners yesterday and Manny is on top of his game and he’s got the game plan down and he’s very sharp right now. I’m happy where he’s at. I think we will overwhelm him and the fight will end before 12.
BOB ARUM: March 13 is unique. People all over the world and on pay-per-view in the United States will have the opportunity to see the best fighter of our era fight a top welterweight bigger and stronger and I am looking forward to Manny Pacquiao’s performance because every single one of these performances will become part of history and we’ll see you in Dallas.
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I read it all. Was definitely a good read. I don't get how it's so hard to understand that If the commission agrees on OST than Pac would take the tests. They've been saying that from the beginning. It's all egos man.
I agree... i really hope all sports moves towards this testing... im tired of hearing about people cheating... i dont believe floyd is doing this to clean the sport up, he has his own personal agenda... to make pac look bad...