Nah there’s a massive chasm in class between Bustsi & Summers. Don’t let anyone tell you this is 50/50 fight or remotely close. Buglioni ain’t no world beater either, pulled a rabbit out the hat against Burton otherwise it would be four losses on his record. Tough & game enough but that’s about it. Hearn will bill it as 50/50 but it’s a foregone conclusion in my eyes.
Chisora-Takam and then one of either Campbell-Mendy or Johnson-Beterbiev would do it for me.
But what are the realistic chances of that? Not high.
Hearn says there's one "big fight" left to announce.
Hearn will try and milk the Berberiev Title fight for another show, he’ll see it as a waste on an undercard. I heard it was happening in America, possibly on one of his matchroom shows over there or maybe saving it until Dazn launch.
Shambolic card so far. Ok for Saturday Fight Night But not for Sky Box Office PPV. PPV should be reserved for box office superstars, but if you’re gonna blag it with Whyte Parker with no belts at stake, then at least stack the undercard. Having Brook on the show was a big deal and would’ve boosted PPV credibility, providing he had a viable opponent! KT wins at a canter, Brook stops Cook in 4, Buatsi comfortable UD or late stoppage win, Benn wins in a rematch which will be nowhere near as exciting as the first. And Chisora Takam chief support in a 12 round hug fest.
saw that one coming a mile away...
Don’t be daft, You're taking the word of a chump champion who's fought 39 bums in 40 fights, over a guy with 21-0 record who's fought two unification bouts in his last two fights lolllllll. Do the math. You know Wilder was offered the Fury fight when Haye withdrew but he bottled it, Wilder has be swerving decent opposition his whole career.
wladimir hadn't knocked anybody out in three years heading into that fight
You saying Wlad isn’t a big puncher? Lol he’s one of the biggest knockout artists in heavyweight boxing, he always carries a punch. By the way he knocked out Pulev 3 fights previous, but you spin it how you want.
hearn/aj fanatcs already have the excuse ready!!! hearn has already given it to them. "wilder took 4 weeks to respond"
Told you I’m not a fanatic, i don’t rate AJ but it’s common sense, if you fancy the fight and like the deal, why wait until AJ Povetkin is nearly over the line to respond. Is everyone on here as thick as you? You’re the one rimming Wilder taking a few Instagram posts at face value with no clue what’s going on behind the scenes. Wise up man.
Lol. White fought no one. Browne his best win .... ha ha ha what a joke
🙄 He’s fought Helanius, chisora, Browne & Joshua and now Parker. In just 24 fights. I reiterate, wilder had fought 39 tin cans.
I thought this was purist boxing forum, 9/10 of you haven’t a clue what you’re talking about, it’s ****ing embarrassing.
fought ortiz who is, at worst, a top 4 HW....went to russia to face povetkin till povetkin realized he couldnt win
I seen that coming a mile off 😉 how long you Wilder fanboys gonna play the Ortiz card. He’ll dine out on that for the next few years, cos he’ll be back to fighting bums next, Breazeale likley next while Joshua is taking on povetkin. The level of opponents both guys are facing says it all. Wilder protecting his belt.
Has nothing to do with my take. You brought something as fact which was false. There’s so much information about the validity of the $50 million offer, that you’re either a troll or lazy.
It’s not about the validity of the money lol, you don’t accept an offer without knowing the terms. What don’t you understand about that lol
neither aj or wilder has a resume to brag on, they need to fight each other. I give aj the edge with klits and parker but its not like his resume is miles ahead of wilder as you all paint this picture. parkers resume isn't anything to brag on. the HW division is just now really heating up. why didn't any of you ask who klits fought in his 21st fight when he fought aj?
AJ is robotic as ****, he’s a sitting target for someone like wilder. But he does have the better resume, fought more credible opponents in 20 fights than Wilder has in 40. Deontays been nursing that belt for years, Joshua hasn’t been afraid to risk his.
Hearn is a promoter. His job is to lie incessantly. If you see no reason to disbelieve anything he says, that is the problem right there.
You have no idea if he was actively trying to make the fight last year. He said that and you believed him. Your entire view of the situation is based on him lying and you believing because you have no way of knowing the difference.
Joshua has a great resume for his level of experience, but Hearn has been a smart promoter and stalled fights against Ortiz or Wilder because a devastating knockout puncher is what you should always avoid whenever possible. That is boxing 101.
Parker was a much safer fight. You don't rush into the most dangerous fight. So for you to pretend that Hearn has been seriously pursuing this fight for a year is to accuse Hearn of being totally incompetent and he is anything but.
Hearn is a promoter. His job is to lie incessantly. If you see no reason to disbelieve anything he says, that is the problem right there.
You have no idea if he was actively trying to make the fight last year. He said that and you believed him. Your entire view of the situation is based on him lying and you believing because you have no way of knowing the difference.
Joshua has a great resume for his level of experience, but Hearn has been a smart promoter and stalled fights against Ortiz or Wilder because a devastating knockout puncher is what you should always avoid whenever possible. That is boxing 101.
Parker was a much safer fight. You don't rush into the most dangerous fight. So for you to pretend that Hearn has been seriously pursuing this fight for a year is to accuse Hearn of being totally incompetent and he is anything but.
Mate he chucked him in with Dillian Whyte after 14 fights after Whyte had already beat him as an amateur, chucked him in with Wlad in his 19th fight, unified again in his 21st. No ones wrapping AJ in cotton in wool. This myth that Hearn talks **** and doesn’t deliver is bollocks. He put one of his star fighters in with Golovkin & Spence b2b. Just sent McDonnell to get slaughtered against Inoue. Like him or not he’s wants to make the big fights, even if it’s just for his own ego.
Idk how people like you can spout this casual fan stuff and be on a boxing message board.
Log off, go do your homework then circle back
Give me your take, I’m listening.
“Agreeing” via a social media tweet means nothing. This offer was there 4 weeks ago and Wilder has stalled, he’s been stalling since November when initial offers were sent. It’s all smoke & mirrors with Wilder, painting a picture via social media to make Joshua look like he doesn’t want it, but putting up road blocks in the board room.
Povetkin & Joshua is about to be announced thanks to wilder pissing about so long, now on the eve of the Josh v Povetkin announcement Wilder decides to verbally “agree” to terms which were sent 4 weeks ago? It’s all bluff, stalled to force AJ with no other option to take on Povetkin. Now he knows he’s missed the boat it’s safe announce to the word via social media he’s “agreed”.
You have no way of knowing if any of this is true. You just believe everything Hearn says.
There’s no reason to disbelieve anything, he’s been actively trying to make the fight since late last year. FYI I think Wilder beats AJ. But from past fights, it’s obvious Joshua doesn’t duck anyone and Hearn would love to line his own pockets. The resistance is coming from team wilder.
How can Wilder agree to the fight if they haven't sent him a contract?
Am I right, Hearn fans?
If Hearn is to be believed and I see no reason why he shouldn’t, (you don’t get thru life by blagging and talking ****, he’s delivered on most his boasts), then an offer was sent to wilder 4 weeks ago, an improved offer on the one sent in November. Which will include purse details, location, date, and other terms etc, once you’re satisfied you agree and a formal contract is drawn up to fit those terms. Wilder has been sitting on that offer for a month (according to Hearn, who I believe). Dont you think it’s a bit fishy he stalls until Joshua is about to announce a date with his mandatory, Povetkin. Let me tell you what’s gonna happen, Wilder leaves it too late, Joshua fights povetkin in September and Wilder gets on Instagram and starts shouting about he wanted the fight and AJ ducked him for Povetkin. The end.
you make 0 sense
bottom line...wilder came up with AJs money...then AJ cried "it has to be in UK"...so wilder agrees to terms for a UK fight.....
so why on earth would it be wilders fault if we get wilder/breazeale & aj/povektin next? correct answer is "it wouldnt be...it would be completely AJ's fault"
but you are an idiot so i wouldnt expect you to come to a common sense conclusion
So someone offers you money and you don’t ask what for? Come on. Accept 50mil with no terms, it’s a blank contract pal. Wilder could say fight with one hand behind your back. Im exaggerating the point there, but you don’t agree to anything without knowing the terms, simple as that. If you don’t understand that then god help you.
Worth some perspective here
Whyte is nothing special, he's a hungry fighter but in no era would he be a world champ.
The loss wasnt a threat as AJ had millions behind him in training, nutrition & development since then.
If anything it showed that AJ wasnt indestructible rather than Whyte being good.
But they need to hype AJ so they've gone with Whyte being a threat.
Whyte getting credit for beating an inactive, out of shape & average fighter in Brown. Whyte was gifted a win against a past it Chisora
AJ faced Wlad once he'd been dethroned. Wasnt mention before Fury beat him & was 2 years away from being ready.
They thought he was done & he was as Fury had took his soul(thats why Wlad mimicked Fury's style vs AJ on his toes)
The version Fury faced of Wlad(previous fights) would have stopped Brown, Chisora, Whyte & Parker with ease.
AJ was built beating bums & old, aged average fighters. Fake hype/rivalries (he & whyte are pals)& a decent fight vs wlad
Hearn was built by stealing fighters from other promoters. He took named fighters in Froch & Brook. AJ was a name before Hearn
He continued to feed bums to Brook in "stadium fights" until everyone realised he'd fought nobody.
Hearn then fed brook to GGG so Hearn could rescue a payday for himself & keep USA sweet. It was eubank fight meant to happen.
Brook took it for a career high payday. He'd earned shít money for his "stadium " fights
He lost & was then about to be stripped of his safety net that Hearn had assured him of(his belt at 147 win/lose to ggg)
Brook being proud & stupid took the fight with Spence. Hearn wanted him to avoid to keep the gravy train moving
McDonnell isn't known yet was champ for years. Like Brook Mcdonell forced the fight trying to get recognition.
Hearn wanted both to continue to fight shïte for average paydays & continue making him money.
Both fighters forced his hand as they were frustrated with him not getting them genuine big fights.
Hearn's done fück all for the game other than take money out for himself.
He's being seen for what he is now but back in the day he had 99% fanboys on here & was seen as a breath of fresh air.
He sells shïte for prime to casuals
He's a cűnt
****ing bollocks, you’ve got a genuine disdain for the guy therefore you’ll pick holes in everything he does, your opinion is impartial.
I’m not on either side, Whyte is fringe world level but he and Joshua were still novice pro’s at the time, it was a risky fight. Wlad was a massive risk but maybe you’re rating AJ more than I am, he’s wooden top, just waiting to get knocked out, but he ain’t ducking Wilder.
And to say Hearn has done nothing for boxing just shows a massive level of stubborn ignorance, He’s put boxing back on the map in the U.K. and fired it into the mainstream, if you wanna be cynical and say he’s only done it to line his own pockets then fair enough, but the numbers don’t lie and he’s got some great talent at matchroom, softly matched at times but who isn’t? Took Wilder 40 fights to finally get a live oppenent, Golovkin fought tin cans before Jacobs & Canelo. Give it 30 years pal, you’ll still be watching re-runs of Froch Groves & Joshua Klitschko, brought to you by matchroom sports and Eddie Hearn 😘
so one day hearn is in constant contact with them then the 4 weeks is thrown out there and you guys take it and run with it lmaoooo. and there was no contract, wasn't this what you all were screaming against when the 50mil was on the table "where is the contract, where will the fight be, you cant agree to something without any terms". now wilder agrees after his 50mil was turned down and hearn is sending the contract AFTER HE AGREES and you all agree. u guys have made fools of yourselves, I understand supporting your fav fighter and promoter but the lengths you all have went is a bit much.
Assuming AJ is my favourite fighter, lol, I’ve been waiting for him to get sparked since his 14th fight, I don’t rate him but he ain’t ducking and Hearn doesn’t shy away from making a few quid. This will be eddies most lucrative fight, if you think he doesn’t wanna make it you’re mad. You don’t know the in’s and outs of boxing. You believe a tweet from from Wilder and run with it.
I do know he offered aj 50mil and aj turned it down, something is very fishy about that
That was a blind deal, “Accept the 50mil then we’ll tell you the details” don’t be foolish. There was no terms or contract in place, just more bluster from Wilder on instagram.
the only reason wilder would be facing breazeale next and not AJ is because AJ is a coward
you already know this
wilder came up with AJs 50 million AND agreed to ajs terms for the UK fight...so if it dont come off NEXt then you know who is at fault and who the coward is?
why is AJ afraid of such a bum?
Clueless man, to call anyone who fights for a living, a coward, makes no sense. It’s business mate. What’s he meant to say, “I’ll accept your 50m and draw up a contract with as many stipulations as you want”?