^ I agree with that, it was probably a combo of fatigue and a few of the solid punches connecting that had Horn in trouble. It also likely drained Pac as well cause he just can't fight at the tempo he did 5-6 years ago obviously.
They are a little more qualified than members on this forum IMO. If you were discussing boxing, would you take the word of Juan Manuel Marquez, Tim Bradley and Eric Morales or the word of a member on this forum who has an agenda?
You didn't answer the question, how many are qualified boxing judges?
Doesn't it depend on who is punching the buttons on compubox? So far we've got 8 qualified judges giving it to Horn which surely outweighs 2 jockeys on compubox.
Got to give you an A for effort but 5 days Into your campaign, nobody Is buying It.
Bob Velin (USA Today) – 115-112 Pacquiao
Nick Tylwalk (FanSided) – 116-112 Pacquiao
Steve Bunce (BoxNation) – 115-113 Horn
Mike Sloan (Sherdog) – 116-111 Pacquiao
Gary Randall (Sherdog) – 116-112 Horn
Mike Fridley (Sherdog) – 115-112 Horn
Gary Parrish (CBS Sports) – Pacquiao won
Brian Campbell (CBS Sports) – 114-114
Jason McIntyre (Fox Sports 1) – Pacquiao won
Dieter Kurtenbach (Fox Sports) – Pacquiao won
Skip Bayless (Fox Sports) – Horn won
Josh Katzowitz (Forbes) – 115-112 Pacquiao
Brian Mazique (Forbes) – 114-114
Fraser Coffeen (Bloody Elbow) – 116-112 Pacquiao
Anton Tabuena (Bloody Elbow) – Pacquiao won
Bad Left Hook – 116-111 and 115-113 Pacquiao
Mike Coppinger (Ring Magazine) – Pacquiao won
Michael Rosenthal (Ring Magazine) – 116-112 Pacquiao
Ryan Songalia (Ring Magazine and Rappler) – 117-110 Pacquiao
Doug Fischer (Ring Magazine) – 116-112 or 115-113 Pacquiao
Tom Gray (Ring Magazine) – “Had Horn wide mate.”
Mike Baca II (Ring Magazine and Undisputed Champion Network) – “I’ve already rewatched. 115-113 Pac was the lowest I could go…”
Steve Kim (Undisputed Champion Network) – Pacquiao won
Lance Pugmire (LA Times) – 116-112 Pacquiao
Boxing News – 115-113 Pacquiao (Verdict: Close fight, no robbery)
Michael Wilbon (ESPN) – Pacquiao won
Dan Rafael (ESPN) – 117-111 Pacquiao
Marcellus Wiley (ESPN) – Pacquiao won
Ramona Shelburne (ESPN) – Pacquiao won
Nigel Collins (ESPN) – 114-113 Pacquiao (“Disagree w/ the “robbery” talk.”)
Stephen A. Smith (ESPN) – Pacquiao robbed!!!!
Teddy Atlas (ESPN) – 116-111 Pacquiao
Arash markazi (ESPN) – Pacquiao won
T.J. Quinn (ESPN) – Pacquiao won (“This is a hometown hit job. Manny looked old, but mostly in control.”)
Salvador Rodriguez (ESPN) – 116-112 Pacquiao
Greg Bishop (Sports Illustrated) – 117-111 Pacquiao
Al Bernstein (Showtime Sports) – “I could see a draw or close for Pac”
Chris Mannix (Yahoo! Sports) – Pacquiao won
Kevin Iole (Yahoo! Sports) – 115-113 for Pacquiao
Gareth A. Davies (The Telegraph) – 115-113 Pacquiao
Jay Cowan (Spike Sports) – 115-112 Pacquiao
Marcos Villegas (Fight Hub TV) – “I had him (Pacquiao) up by one point.”
Jonathan Snowden (Bleacher Report) – “I had Manny Pacquiao in a close fight.”
BoxingScene – 116-112 Pacquiao
Ryan Phillips (The Big Lead) – 116-111 Pacquiao
Lennox Lewis – Pacquiao won
Lou DiBella (promoter) – 116-112 Pacquiao
DJ Gallo (The Guardian) – 117-111 pacquiao
Ben Thompson (Fight Hype) – 115-112 Pacquiao
Jeff Powell (The Daily Mail) – Pacquiao robbed
Bob Sheridan (commentator) – 114-114
Paulie Malignaggi – “I had horn by a point…”
Eric Raskin (Former writer for ESPN and Grantland) – 114-114
Graham Houston (Boxing Monthly) – 114-114 (“Cd. have gone either way.”)
Martin Chesnutt (Boxing Monthly) – 115-112 Pacquiao (“…but was comfortable with 115-113 either way.”)
Andrew Harrison (Boxing Monthly) – 116-113 Horn
Adam Abramowitz (Saturday Night Boxing and Transnational Boxing Rankings board member) – 116-111 Pacquiao
Rafael G (The Fight City) – “Pacquiao won by 2 or 3 points.”
Lee Wylie (The Fight City) – Pacquiao won (“…certainly not a robbery. Close fight.”)
Patrick Connor (BWAA/IBRO member) – Pacquiao won
Michael Montero (Montero On Boxing) – 116-112 Pacquiao
Behind the Gloves – 117-110 Pacquiao
Erik Morales – Pacquiao robbed
Juan Manuel Marquez – 116-112 Pacquiao
Timothy Bradley – Pacquiao won (very close fight)
Guillermo Rigondeaux – Pacquiao won
Just an honest question, how many of the people listed above are qualified judges of championship bouts?
Compub0x is 2 random people pushing buttons when they think a punch landed, correct? Each focuses on 1 boxer, so what makes them so accurate? Just asking why they are held in higher esteem than 8 judges.
Not sure about that picture of Manny being just after the fight, from what I saw of him coming back into the Philippines his face was swollen and was sporting some huge sunglasses. I thought Manny didn't do enough in the first half of the fight and didn't finish off like he should have in the last 3. Not surprised at the 115-113 scorecards.