They both had 1 shock win and were total crap before and after. Clottey won every round before getting dqd because baldomir starting literally crying.
There was a head clash for sure but ward was p4p number 1 for headbutting and clotteys looked somewhat unintentional as he actually threw a punch before their heads collided, ward literally just jumped forward head first in a non boxing manner. Double standards or maybe clottey was secret p4p 1?
Also gatti? Cant be serious. He wasn't a ww.
Are you sure? Mayweather fans love to play that fight on loop as if it was the greatest win they'd ever witness. Though I guess he was about as much of a WW as Hatton was a Super Welterweight.
He's below ricky hatton ( skillwise IMO) but he's better than Gatti. Was his win over Teo bigger then Hattons win over Tyszu? Debatable.... I think Ray Manicini was a better. Ray was only a one time lightweight champion but George was unified and lineal. So yea he gets in, Everyone gets in.
Put the crackpipe down.
Gatti was a multi-division champion, who at one point was fringe P4P-ish fighter.
Yeah, he got mowed down by Floyd & Oscar, but who the hell didn't.
Kambosos is literally worse than Buster Douglas.
At least Buster Douglas just had unrealized potential because he was lazy.
Kambosos is just an awful fighter who got lucky once.
I was at Gatti/Ward 2, Gatti/Leija and Gatti/Dorin...Thunder beat some pretty decent opponents, always entertained and put thousands of asses in seats.
You're right about him lighting up Atlantic City. I don't have an issue with him being in the HoF one way or the other but he accomplished quite a bit and energized the sport regardless of talent or resume. HBO chose to air his fights on the regular forms reason....
I definitely agree with all you said
Gatti is deserving
Bruh
You do know there is a place in EVERY HOF for those who contributed to the sport without having to actually participate in it, yes ?!?!?
I wonder if Jim Lampley or Larry Merchant ever laced them up....
Omg. You are comparing Jim Lampley and Larry famous boxing commentators to a fictional movie character ? So is Air Bud in the NBA hall of fame ? Jerry McGuire, Friday Night Lights , Varsity Blues, Remember the titans and Blue Mountain state in the football hall of fame ? Are those fictional characters in there? Rick “Wild Thing” Vaughn, Steve Nebraska, Pedro Cerrano or Willie Mays Hayes in the MLB hall of fame? Lmaooooo
Is coach Bombay in the NHL hall of fame ? lol.
If Rocky is in..................
Bruh
You do know there is a place in EVERY HOF for those who contributed to the sport without having to actually participate in it, yes ?!?!?
I wonder if Jim Lampley or Larry Merchant ever laced them up....
Won the IBF 130 title and made 3 successful defenses
Won the WBC 140 title and made 2 successful defenses
Record vs world title winning opposition:
W vs Jose Sanabria UD 12
W vs Tracy Harris Peterson UD 12 (reigning titlist)
W vs Tracy Harris Peterson UD 12
W vs Calvin Grove RTD 7
W vs Gabriel Ruelas TKO 5
W vs Joey Gamache KO 2
L vs Oscar De La Hoya TKO 5
W vs Terron Millet TKO 4
W vs Leonard Doroftei KO 2
W vs Jesse James Leija KO 5
L vs Floyd Mayweather RTD 7
L vs Carlos Baldomir TKO 9
Sanabria, Grove, Gamache, and Leija were way past it but he has some good names on his resume regardless and the Ward trilogy was legendary. I don't care that Ward was a fringe contender, those were incredible fights and I'll watch them anytime they're on TV.
He's a fringe case for the HOF, I wouldn't be mad if he didn't get in. But I'm not mad that they let him in either. There are worse guys in there and there will be more.
If nothing you, you like lists :lol1:
GAMACHE ?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?
Flimsy AF !!!!!
Won the IBF 130 title and made 3 successful defenses
Won the WBC 140 title and made 2 successful defenses
Record vs world title winning opposition:
W vs Jose Sanabria UD 12
W vs Tracy Harris Peterson UD 12 (reigning titlist)
W vs Tracy Harris Peterson UD 12
W vs Calvin Grove RTD 7
W vs Gabriel Ruelas TKO 5
W vs Joey Gamache KO 2
L vs Oscar De La Hoya TKO 5
W vs Terron Millet TKO 4
W vs Leonard Doroftei KO 2
W vs Jesse James Leija KO 5
L vs Floyd Mayweather RTD 7
L vs Carlos Baldomir TKO 9
Sanabria, Grove, Gamache, and Leija were way past it but he has some good names on his resume regardless and the Ward trilogy was legendary. I don't care that Ward was a fringe contender, those were incredible fights and I'll watch them anytime they're on TV.
He's a fringe case for the HOF, I wouldn't be mad if he didn't get in. But I'm not mad that they let him in either. There are worse guys in there and there will be more.
Are you serious? Are you really serious? Come on now.
Because half the judges are on the take
It comes down to getting votes and who’s your backing
Gatti , may have not been the superstar and the most victorious but he was must see tv for a few years and lit up AC like no other
The Boardwalk Hall will always be Gatti’s home away from home
Just to be clear , I think Forrest is deserving of HoF
I was at Gatti/Ward 2, Gatti/Leija and Gatti/Dorin...Thunder beat some pretty decent opponents, always entertained and put thousands of asses in seats.
You're right about him lighting up Atlantic City. I don't have an issue with him being in the HoF one way or the other but he accomplished quite a bit and energized the sport regardless of talent or resume. HBO chose to air his fights on the regular forms reason....
He accomplished something other being "famous" for going to war with C level guys :dunno: ?
Won the IBF 130 title and made 3 successful defenses
Won the WBC 140 title and made 2 successful defenses
Record vs world title winning opposition:
W vs Jose Sanabria UD 12
W vs Tracy Harris Peterson UD 12 (reigning titlist)
W vs Tracy Harris Peterson UD 12
W vs Calvin Grove RTD 7
W vs Gabriel Ruelas TKO 5
W vs Joey Gamache KO 2
L vs Oscar De La Hoya TKO 5
W vs Terron Millet TKO 4
W vs Leonard Doroftei KO 2
W vs Jesse James Leija KO 5
L vs Floyd Mayweather RTD 7
L vs Carlos Baldomir TKO 9
Sanabria, Grove, Gamache, and Leija were way past it but he has some good names on his resume regardless and the Ward trilogy was legendary. I don't care that Ward was a fringe contender, those were incredible fights and I'll watch them anytime they're on TV.
He's a fringe case for the HOF, I wouldn't be mad if he didn't get in. But I'm not mad that they let him in either. There are worse guys in there and there will be more.
Arturo not only lit up a city ( AC ) but also thrones of crowds making him , at one point , must see tv
Just sayin
Jake Paul has done massive numbers too. HOF'er?