From mismanagement, to lack of dedication, to just plain ducking did I miss anyone?
1 Mike Tyson
2 Guillermo Rigondeaux
3 Ike Ibeabuchi
4 Gary Russell Jr
5 Keith Thurman
6 Tommy Morrison
7 Kell Brook
8 Demetrius Andrade
9 Edwin Valero
10 Frankie Gomez
Reviewing Alfonso Zamora's career whose from the 70s, think he had a strong but short career that could had been more under the right management, he had a well rounded skillset due to his amateur background earning a silver medal in the Olympics coupled with absurd punching power. He had won the WBA, The Ring, and lineal bantamweight titles at age 21.
He had starched of multiple top class champions like Eusebio Pedroza (14-1), Alberto Davila (28-1), and Soo Hwan Hong X2 (28-2-2)>(36-3-3). He also fought top 10 ranked contenders in the ring magazine like Francisco Villegas (28-4),Thanomchit Sukhothai (24-1), and Gilberto Ilueca (25-3). Knocked out these contenders in under 4 rounds.
Too bad for him that at age 23, he faced the renown puncher in Zarate (45-0, 44 KOs) in "The Battle of the Z Boys." and immediately fought another top fighter in Jorge Lujan within the same year. He likely took too much damage despite having a granite chin with slick defense and these back to back losses hurt his morale in fighting at the pros.
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Disagree. Zamora got the most out of his career. He couldn’t beat Zarate, likely wasn’t gonna beat Pintor, and wouldn’t beat Chandler. And if he stepped up to 122, Gomez would absolutely butcher him.
I would put Matthysse somewhere in a top 15 or 20 list. I feel like he was just a couple tweaks away from being a legit title holder at 140
Lucas got jobbed against Judah and Alexander
No pom-poms, just common sense.
If the only people who've ever beaten you at anything in life are people in the HOF, you're not a bum :lol1:
Cooney never amounted to anything but hope.
There are plenty of bums who only lost to the best fighters they fought :dunno:
Padded their stats with a bunch of lesser bums.
Let's look at your hero's best opps -
Lenny (L)
Mike fans cry about Mike not being prime :crying: As if Lenny was :lol1:
Mike would get killed if he had Lenny's resume.
Holy (L, DQ)
Pure embarrassment. Could not survive Holy's resume.
Spinks, on paper at least (W)
Pure cash out. Would have been an interesting fight prime for prime. Holy moved up, Spinks could have as well.
Holmes (W)
The Holmes that was watching tv for 2 years. Prime for prime, Holmes eats him up.
That's about it.
As for the "champs" he beat......:lol1: !!!!
Mike is all image
No pom-poms, just common sense.
If the only people who've ever beaten you at anything in life are people in the HOF, you're not a bum :lol1:
Cooney is not in the HOF
Most HOFers fought when they shouldn't have and collected L's.
Let's look at your hero's best opps -
Lenny (L)
Mike fans cry about Mike not being prime :crying: As if Lenny was :lol1:
Mike would get killed if he had Lenny's resume.
Holy (L, DQ)
Pure embarrassment. Could not survive Holy's resume.
Spinks, on paper at least (W)
Pure cash out. Would have been an interesting fight prime for prime. Holy moved up, Spinks could have as well.
Holmes (W)
The Holmes that was watching tv for 2 years. Prime for prime, Holmes eats him up.
That's about it.
As for the "champs" he beat......:lol1: !!!!
Mike is all image
He beat washed up Norton, literally
And that was his beat W, literally
Just an honest take
Put your pompoms away, bruh.
No pom-poms, just common sense.
If the only people who've ever beaten you at anything in life are people in the HOF, you're not a bum :lol1:
LOL, 'never amounted to anything".
He literally only lost to 3 of the greatest HWs of all-time. Foreman, Norton, & Holmes.
Just a clown take.
He beat washed up Norton, literally
And that was his beat W, literally
Just an honest take
Put your pompoms away, bruh.
That version was in cash me out mode
Fans tend to over exaggerate a win
Case in point
BTW, Cooney never amount to anything.
His best win was a washed up Norton
LOL, 'never amounted to anything".
He literally only lost to 3 of the greatest HWs of all-time. Foreman, Norton, & Holmes.
Just a clown take.
Shot to shxt based on what?
He was undefeated & stopped Cooney in his last fight a year earlier :lol1:
That version was in cash me out mode
Fans tend to over exaggerate a win
Case in point
BTW, Cooney never amount to anything.
His best win was a washed up Norton
Was shot to shlt when Tyson fought him
The worst version of Spinks
But yeah, full credit :fing02:
Shot to shxt based on what?
He was undefeated & stopped Cooney in his last fight a year earlier :lol1:
Wilder decapitates -
Berbick
Smith
Tucker
Bruno
Seldon
Spinks (the version Mike fought)
Del Bum would make easy work of them :boxing:
Outside of Spinks (IF it was prime Spinks), those are the least notable "champs" a person should ever brag about beating :lol1: !!!
- - Deyonce was so fragile that he was fighting prelims 6 years in in front of a handful of spectators who were part of his team.
He melts in the 80s without Haymon protecting him. Never learned to box and was dropped by bums coming up.
What grade wuz U in then?
You can lead a horse to water, man. Broner just never had the head for true success.
because he didnt have the right team around him... he didnt have anyone strong enough to tell him what he needed to hear... he surrounded himself with a bunch of dudes that is hungry for money so they let AB do whatever he wants as long as they are getting paid.
Wilder decapitates -
Berbick
Smith
Tucker
Bruno
Seldon
Spinks (the version Mike fought)
Del Bum would make easy work of them :boxing:
Outside of Spinks (IF it was prime Spinks), those are the least notable "champs" a person should ever brag about beating :lol1: !!!
Joan Guzman for me.
He is less accomplished than most of that list had more skill than most of them combined.
Should have been one of the best of his era if not the best and an all-time great. Exceptional little fighter
i think broner could have gotten further if he had the right team around him. he was misguided.
You can lead a horse to water, man. Broner just never had the head for true success.
He never beat anyone close to as good as them. Anything is possible head to head but I just give guys credit for putting in work and beating better fighters which they did and wilder didn't. I find it strange how you defend wilder but bash those guys as if wilder is on another level when he's not, he was just matched soft and promoted heavily which is what you accused Tyson of?
Read his user name again.
- - Poor Boner limited mid double digit IQ did the best he could. Spence definitely wasted what was turning into a legendary career, but he made some $$$.
Craw the only fighter Arum had that lost him $$$, but Craw made enough to be a big shot in Omaha which ain't shabby for someone with the charisma of a rattlesnake.
i think broner could have gotten further if he had the right team around him. he was misguided.
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