Any PPV result from the Usyk vs Fury 2? How many people bought this fight?

It says more about "fans" if anything. They love b**ching about ppv prices and fight that are ppv main event that shouldn't be. Does not make much difference i said it before Turki came into boxing, those that complain about ppvs i would bet most of them do not buy them regardless anyway, proves it that when they get a big main event and lower prices doesn't make much of a difference. Those that buy ppvs majority will keep buying them. Most of those complaining about ppv prices online likely stream/firestick no matter what the price They rely on casuals to get their imaginary PPV numbers. And here they are claiming to be real fans yet they watch everything for free.

Why would anyone who is not involved in the promotion himself and who does not get any revenue care much about PPV numbers? I often wonder when this question comes up, since it obviously has zero impact on the quality of the fight that we see. No offense - I am just really curious. Why do you care why he cares? Unless you are giving the answer.. mind yo own damn bidness.

That's what they're not getting mate. Or too afraid to admit. And those are non-Turki fights. No numbers were reported. It does suggest people only buy PBC fights, which is nonsense. Yeah, don't know why he keeps repeating this sportwashing thing as if people are too dumb not to know. Turki's hollywoodish, movie-like previews of his big fights alone would make any dumb person realize he's spending tons on these fights without expecting anything monetary in return. But still there are authorized people and enti/ties that are selling his products like Top Rank, which is promoting Fury's fights in America. Wondering about the numbers is not something unusual and in fact an obsession to many fans. Real main subject of this thread is why there are no numbers when it comes to non-PBC fights.

Well, can they at least report fake numbers, just like PBC and their fans are able to come up with made up numbers? Even the Haney/Garcia didn't have numbers. One of the most widely watched fights around the world, a fight that was riddled with controversies, thus had lots of publicity good or bad, didn't have numbers. The Haney/Lomachenko didn't have numbers. The Haney/Prograis didn't have numbers, just some more examples. Fights that were decently promoted that no real boxing fan would escape watching. They're not that big, but can they at least report numbers? They won't bother because they knew not many people buy PPVs. They'd rather just keep quiet than exaggerate numbers. Does this mean people only buy PBC fights despite being more expensive? People need to start asking questions when it comes to these figures. That's what they're not getting mate. Or too afraid to admit. And those are non-Turki fights. No numbers were reported. It does suggest people only buy PBC fights, which is nonsense.

You keep saying the same sportswashing thing here over and over again. That doesn't mean it's the only subject that can be discussed in every forum where every topic branches out in many different directions. So what if it's sportswashing? Does that mean if's free? It's sold for $40. Why is it evil to ask how many people bought it? What's your reason? Because it means you're missing the point. Read the post. Nobody is saying it's free. I specifically said that it's almost certain that they are losing money on the event. Why would you even try to create an irrelevant straw man about it being free? That's obviously false, and also completely irrelevant. We don't even have numbers on purses and other expenditures to validate profit or lack thereof, and either way, they're likely "losing money". In the meantime, you get distracted from the actual purpose of Saudi involvement. Is it evil, you ask? You should be able to answer that question yourself if you understood the concept. I'm not here to dictate morality to you, but sportswashing is 100% relevant to whatever morals you subscribe to, and if you are more concerned over PPV numbers than, say, human rights violations, genocide, and other things that are ACTUALLY about morals, you have zero room to be talking about morality in this discussion at all. So what's the point of asking about PPV numbers? If you have any sense at all, you should know 1. that they're not likely that great, and 2. that it's like asking if a quarter fell from your pocket while you were going to the store. You should be asking yourself why you care so much about that quarter. What's YOUR reason?

PPV numbers are irrelevant for the Saudis... Not sure why the concept of sportswashing is so difficult to understand here. If you're wondering if they made money on it, you are asking the wrong questions. First. No. They're almost certainly not making money on it. Second, they make enough money in passive income that they could buy Top Rank with just 4.5 hours of sitting around doing fugh-all. If you think you understand the perspective of people who could buy all of the major boxing promoters with their pocket change and you're still asking whether they made PPV money, YDKS. You keep saying the same sportswashing thing here over and over again. That doesn't mean it's the only subject that can be discussed in every forum where every topic branches out in many different directions. So what if it's sportswashing? Does that mean if's free? It's sold for $40. Why is it evil to ask how many people bought it? What's your reason?

What the poster is saying is any reported ppv number that exceeds 100K got to be taken with chunks of salt. 300K to 700K, for example, are nearly impossible to attain in this age of social media. If there was one or two ways to cheat in the past, there are tons nowadays. So people need to stop expecting ppv numbers that range from 300,000 to 500,000. If you see one, it's most likely fake.

PPV numbers are irrelevant for the Saudis... Not sure why the concept of sportswashing is so difficult to understand here. If you're wondering if they made money on it, you are asking the wrong questions. First. No. They're almost certainly not making money on it. Second, they make enough money in passive income that they could buy Top Rank with just 4.5 hours of sitting around doing fugh-all. If you think you understand the perspective of people who could buy all of the major boxing promoters with their pocket change and you're still asking whether they made PPV money, YDKS.

I haven’t seen any solid PPV numbers for Usyk vs Fury 2 yet, which is surprising since these big fights usually get that info out pretty fast. I was following the fight closely, and it definitely seemed like there was a lot of buzz around it, but it’s strange that there’s no clear data yet. As for the California fight, I remember seeing mixed reactions—it didn’t seem to get the same level of hype as some other events, so the numbers might not have been as high. Could be just the way it was promoted or the timing. ​

Well, can they at least report fake numbers, just like PBC and their fans are able to come up with made up numbers? Even the Haney/Garcia didn't have numbers. One of the most widely watched fights around the world, a fight that was riddled with controversies, thus had lots of publicity good or bad, didn't have numbers. The Haney/Lomachenko didn't have numbers. The Haney/Prograis didn't have numbers, just some more examples. Fights that were decently promoted that no real boxing fan would escape watching. They're not that big, but can they at least report numbers? They won't bother because they knew not many people buy PPVs. They'd rather just keep quiet than exaggerate numbers. Does this mean people only buy PBC fights despite being more expensive? People need to start asking questions when it comes to these figures.

I honestly think no more than 100,000 and that's predominantly in europe. Probably did terrible in usa. It was a good fight but these guys are unknown and there's very little Marketing in the USA for these fights Not sure where you are getting your numbers, it did 1.5 milliion in the uk last tine, and would expect similar this time, maybe more tbh

People just need to say they watched the fights for free and stop all this nonsense and excuses about the fights not properly promoted. This site has been peppered with names of those fighters two months ahead of the fight. Youtube and social media are splashed with their pictures everyday of your waking hours. What do you mean they're not properly promoted? Look at some of the thread titles in this forum. They're already promoting Fury vs Joshua! Aaarggh... That's how it is brotha. People love to circle jerk. In reality whatever ppv number is released, you can bet it's pure fiction. Unfortunately, no one is fact-checking.

People just need to say they watched the fights for free and stop all this nonsense and excuses about the fights not properly promoted. This site has been peppered with names of those fighters two months ahead of the fight. Youtube and social media are splashed with their pictures everyday of your waking hours. What do you mean they're not properly promoted? Look at some of the thread titles in this forum. They're already promoting Fury vs Joshua! Aaarggh...

I honestly think no more than 100,000 and that's predominantly in europe. Probably did terrible in usa. It was a good fight but these guys are unknown and there's very little Marketing in the USA for these fights

Usyk isn't box office unfortunately it's a simple as that, and the shine was off Fury going into the fight after 2 bad performances in a row. The fight would have done well in the UK market and very average everywhere else.

What stream? :rolleyes: In all seriousness, it ended at like 6pm. You can't even get people to come over until about 9.

Probably did ok in Europe

Could be - that way it would at least make some sense. I'm in my mid 50s so I remember watching fights Saturday afternoon on ABC. We'd get great fights for free on regular TV. Saw Whitaker vs Paez, Nigel Benn vs Iran Barkley, Benn vs Watson, etc.. I want all fights to do good numbers but can understand why folks aren't spending the money...

I assume he's curious to know for reasons that may benefit the sport. An increase in PPV numbers signifies and increase in interest in the sport. How can boxing flourish if people aren't watching? Just an assumption though, his reasons might be different. Could be - that way it would at least make some sense.

Would you be satisfied with 1 K (1,000) PPVs sold for Fury vs Usyk 2 for the US stream? That's more realistic than any of the obviously made up, ridiculously high numbers like 200,000 - 500,000 in this age of mass cheating. Most people would rather find a way to watch PPVs for free. So I'm not convinced boxing is still attracting buyers ranging from 100K - 500K. Otherwise, HBO, Showtime, Fox, CBS, NBC, etc., would have not left boxing.