CANELO stock to FALL!

I don’t know what the heck this devolved into… {"data-align":"none","data-size":"full","data-attachmentid":32370853} "Nelo suuuucks......" :lol1: Sometimes hypocritical behavior* needs to be called out *Even in jest :)

I don’t know what the heck this devolved into…

Way to kill a thread, Shemp Just be annoyingly and nonsensically repetitive :fing02:

No one cares what you say, Shemp :wave: Again, predictable. Don't include everyone in, you're along on this, and you do care, you're showing it on every post

Like I said No one cares what you say, Shemp :wave:

{"data-align":"none","data-size":"full","data-attachmentid":32370075} ........ Like I said, predictable and narrow mind.

Martinez - 38 and damaged when GGG wanted to fight Pirog - Same only younger Sturm - Makes Haney look like Mike Tyson Ward - How many hoops did GGG throw at him ? Froch - He wanted Carl to move down Nelo - Had they fought any sooner, their purses would have been half'd. They were at their most profitable when they fought. GGG was too lazy to chase greatness. "Don't worry, guys. I'm moving back down to defend my titles :boxing: !'' Never to be heard from again :haha:​

Martinez - 38 and damaged when GGG wanted to fight Pirog - Same only younger Sturm - Makes Haney look like Mike Tyson Ward - How many hoops did GGG throw at him ? Froch - He wanted Carl to move down Nelo - Had they fought any sooner, their purses would have been half'd. They were at their most profitable when they fought. GGG was too lazy "Don't worry, guys. I'm moving back down to defend my titles :boxing: !'' Never to be heard from again :haha:

You're so predictable. That's why i . {"data-align":"none","data-size":"full","data-attachmentid":32370075} ........

did this hastily so couldnt find all the info i wanted froch-ggg https://www.boxingscene.com/froch-th...-power--106212 Froch was in talks to face Golovkin last, but offered a catch-weight of 172-pounds - which the 160-champion found a big too high. https://www.boxingscene.com/golovkin...t-claim--93042 Golovkin’s promoter Tom Loeffler took to Twitter to refute those claims by saying that they’re were asking for a catch-weight. They were and still are willing to fight the 37-year-old Froch at the full 168lb weight for the fight, and they’re willing to take the fight in the UK. ward-ggg and promoter dispute https://www.dca.ca.gov/csac/forms_pu...02_goossen.pdf Ward and his manager, James Prince,. have .been relatively uncooperative in assisting Goossen in his efforts to procure Ward a fight Ward insisted on a "tune up" fight with a lesser opponent, but HBO would not pay him the amount he demanded for such a fight https://www.badlefthook.com/2013/8/1...sartison-fight HBO Rejects Andre Ward Vs. Dimitri Sartison Aug 10, 2013​​ i know there are different goosen quotes from the arbitration where goosen says ward did not want to fight the opponents hbo wanted and ggg was on that list, couldnt find that quickly. ggg-martinez https://www.badlefthook.com/2013/6/3...t-says-dibella Who knows Gennady Golovkin other than you, me and a few other people? How many people would he bring to the table? How much money would he generate? He is the last guy ... He is a very good fighter, but it's a fight that economically makes no sense." -lou dibella ggg-sturm​ https://www.boxingscene.com/oner-exp...olovkin--61851 they approached me and they asked me how I could help them not fight Golovkin. So what happened is, I found a guy and spoke to him. And he offered Sturm a deal and said "we can ask for super champion and then you don't need to fight him.' And that's what happened," Oner told BoxingScene.com. ggg-pirog https://www.espn.com/boxing/story/_/...us-back-injury Dmitry Pirog ruptured a disc in his back while training, forcing him to pull out of an Aug. 25 HBO main event against middleweight titlist Gennady Golovkin ggg-saunders https://www.espn.com/boxing/story/_/...home-advantage "They are offering life changing money but it's not just about that because it would be a big risk for me." -billie joe saunders canelo excuses and division hopping https://www.ringtv.com/413293-canelo...-middleweight/ I’m not a middleweight,” Alvarez said when discussions veered to a potential showdown with IBF and WBA middleweight champion Gennady Golovkin. https://www.espn.com/boxing/story/_/...r-agree-bout-6 Alvarez, the former middleweight world champion, and Chavez, who also once held a world title at 160 pounds, will meet at a catchweight of 164.5 pounds. As far as proving that most 30+ year olds dont move up much in weight you can just check the boxrec stats to verify that. would be unwieldy to post tons of screenshots here. there are lots of reasons to hate on nelo: ped cheater, clear ducker of many fights, rehydro clauses, etc...he certainly has a better resume than ggg but hes also had all the opportunities in the world to make fights, its like comparing joe blow to trum-p. tru-mp started with 400 million dollars, of course he has more. canelo started with a huge fanbase and thus huge power, the guy was fighting hbo main events against mathew hatton before he beat a soul. ggg's first hbo fight was supposed to be against top 5 pirog...canelo also had a built in mexican/mexican american fanbase. completely different dynamic. canelo is doing more than a lot of fighters thats true, but once again he has way more power than anyone in boxing and he could fight anyone. most fighters cant pick and choose fights like him. He wouldn't care about proof. The guy is a canelo employee or blinded by love.

Name an active fighter with a better resume Should be super easy You're so predictable. That's why i made a point for you to follow the conversationn but I knew you have no answer.They all sucks, this is the millennial and X generation where the fans are in love with theirs boxers, is more like a cult not a sport and as long as their idols doesn't face a threat, they're great. Go away kid and learn a little there's life outside the fraud.

https://www.badlefthook.com/2013/8/1...sartison-fight HBO Rejects Andre Ward Vs. Dimitri Sartison Aug 10, 2013​​ i know there are different goosen quotes from the arbitration where goosen says ward did not want to fight the opponents hbo wanted and ggg was on that list, couldnt find that quickly. ggg-martinez https://www.badlefthook.com/2013/6/3...t-says-dibella Who knows Gennady Golovkin other than you, me and a few other people? How many people would he bring to the table? How much money would he generate? He is the last guy ... He is a very good fighter, but it's a fight that economically makes no sense." -lou dibella ggg-sturm​ https://www.boxingscene.com/oner-exp...olovkin--61851 they approached me and they asked me how I could help them not fight Golovkin. So what happened is, I found a guy and spoke to him. And he offered Sturm a deal and said "we can ask for super champion and then you don't need to fight him.' And that's what happened," Oner told BoxingScene.com. ggg-pirog https://www.espn.com/boxing/story/_/...us-back-injury Dmitry Pirog ruptured a disc in his back while training, forcing him to pull out of an Aug. 25 HBO main event against middleweight titlist Gennady Golovkin ggg-saunders https://www.espn.com/boxing/story/_/...home-advantage "They are offering life changing money but it's not just about that because it would be a big risk for me." -billie joe saunders canelo excuses and division hopping https://www.ringtv.com/413293-canelo...-middleweight/ I’m not a middleweight,” Alvarez said when discussions veered to a potential showdown with IBF and WBA middleweight champion Gennady Golovkin. https://www.espn.com/boxing/story/_/...r-agree-bout-6 Alvarez, the former middleweight world champion, and Chavez, who also once held a world title at 160 pounds, will meet at a catchweight of 164.5 pounds. As far as proving that most 30+ year olds dont move up much in weight you can just check the boxrec stats to verify that. would be unwieldy to post tons of screenshots here. there are lots of reasons to hate on nelo: ped cheater, clear ducker of many fights, rehydro clauses, etc...he certainly has a better resume than ggg but hes also had all the opportunities in the world to make fights, its like comparing joe blow to trum-p. tru-mp started with 400 million dollars, of course he has more. canelo started with a huge fanbase and thus huge power, the guy was fighting hbo main events against mathew hatton before he beat a soul. ggg's first hbo fight was supposed to be against top 5 pirog...canelo also had a built in mexican/mexican american fanbase. completely different dynamic. canelo is doing more than a lot of fighters thats true, but once again he has way more power than anyone in boxing and he could fight anyone. most fighters cant pick and choose fights like him. "Sergio will be out for at least a year. You saw his last fight, he won it on guts and will and balls alone. He had no knee, he had no hand, and I'm not sending a champion who is 38-years-old - after a year plus layoff - into a ring with this guy. I'm not saying they will never fight. I'm not speaking for Sergio, who is a grown as man and controls his own career. The successor to Sergio Martiknez has already been determined and the next great middleweight is Triple G." Lou D DGAF about pillow "puncher" Sturm Pirog at his worst (Similar to Sergio :) ) Golovkin not interested in Saunders or Andrade fights https://www.boxing news24. com/2019/05/golovkin-not-interested-in-saunders-or-andrade-fights/ "Gennady Golovkin has no interest in fighting newly crowned WBO 168-pound champion Billy Joe Saunders or WBO middleweight belt holder Demetrius Andrade right now. Former middleweight champion GGG says those fighters need to get in line and wait if they want to fight him, because his focus is on his next opponent Steve Rolls." Regarding Ward https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rTLM0Ux179o&ab_channel=AKHiTV Ward says he won’t fight Golovkin at 168 (bnews24 site site) “I’m not going to 68, that’s out,” said Ward to thaboxingvoice.com about him not moving down to 168 to fight Golovkin. “I moved up. That was a real opportunity for him to take that fight. He didn’t want the fight. He wanted to push it out 2 or 3 years. Once you go up, you can’t come back down. If he wants to come up, that’s another story. I’m not going back down,” said Ward. Canelo Álvarez vs. Gennady Golovkin https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canelo...vkin#:~:text=F ollowing%20Canelo%20%C3%81lvarez%27s%20victory%20a gainst%20Miguel%20Cotto,anticipated%20to%20take%20 place%20well%20into%202016. The age gap was goinG to be there regardless 10 Guys GGG Did Not Fight & WHY https://tss.ib.tv/boxing/featured-bo...ot-fight-a-why Everything Nelo did GGG could have.....but didn't GGG fought a total of 240 rds in 45 fights At age 34 Nelo has clocked in over 500 rds. GGG didn't want it badly enough

did this hastily so couldnt find all the info i wanted froch-ggg https://www.boxingscene.com/froch-th...-power--106212 Froch was in talks to face Golovkin last, but offered a catch-weight of 172-pounds - which the 160-champion found a big too high. https://www.************.com/2015/07...-clear-at-168/ Golovkin’s promoter Tom Loeffler took to Twitter to refute those claims by saying that they’re were asking for a catch-weight. They were and still are willing to fight the 37-year-old Froch at the full 168lb weight for the fight, and they’re willing to take the fight in the UK. ward-ggg and promoter dispute https://www.dca.ca.gov/csac/forms_pu...02_goossen.pdf Ward and his manager, James Prince,. have .been relatively uncooperative in assisting Goossen in his efforts to procure Ward a fight Ward insisted on a "tune up" fight with a lesser opponent, but HBO would not pay him the amount he demanded for such a fight https://www.************.com/2013/08/hbo-rejects-andre-ward-vs-dimitri-sartison/ HBO Rejects Andre Ward Vs. Dimitri Sartison Aug 10, 2013​​ i know there are different goosen quotes from the arbitration where goosen says ward did not want to fight the opponents hbo wanted and ggg was on that list, couldnt find that quickly. ggg-martinez https://www.badlefthook.com/2013/6/3...t-says-dibella Who knows Gennady Golovkin other than you, me and a few other people? How many people would he bring to the table? How much money would he generate? He is the last guy ... He is a very good fighter, but it's a fight that economically makes no sense." -lou dibella ggg-sturm​ https://www.boxingscene.com/oner-exp...olovkin--61851 they approached me and they asked me how I could help them not fight Golovkin. So what happened is, I found a guy and spoke to him. And he offered Sturm a deal and said "we can ask for super champion and then you don't need to fight him.' And that's what happened," Oner told BoxingScene.com. ggg-pirog https://www.espn.com/boxing/story/_/...us-back-injury Dmitry Pirog ruptured a disc in his back while training, forcing him to pull out of an Aug. 25 HBO main event against middleweight titlist Gennady Golovkin ggg-saunders https://www.espn.com/boxing/story/_/...home-advantage "They are offering life changing money but it's not just about that because it would be a big risk for me." -billie joe saunders canelo excuses and division hopping https://www.ringtv.com/413293-canelo...-middleweight/ I’m not a middleweight,” Alvarez said when discussions veered to a potential showdown with IBF and WBA middleweight champion Gennady Golovkin. https://www.espn.com/boxing/story/_/...r-agree-bout-6 Alvarez, the former middleweight world champion, and Chavez, who also once held a world title at 160 pounds, will meet at a catchweight of 164.5 pounds. As far as proving that most 30+ year olds dont move up much in weight you can just check the boxrec stats to verify that. would be unwieldy to post tons of screenshots here. there are lots of reasons to hate on nelo: ped cheater, clear ducker of many fights, rehydro clauses, etc...he certainly has a better resume than ggg but hes also had all the opportunities in the world to make fights, its like comparing joe blow to trum-p. ***** started with 400 million dollars, of course he has more. canelo started with a huge fanbase and thus huge power, the guy was fighting hbo main events against mathew hatton before he beat a soul. ggg's first hbo fight was supposed to be against top 5 pirog...canelo also had a built in mexican/mexican american fanbase. completely different dynamic. canelo is doing more than a lot of fighters thats true, but once again he has way more power than anyone in boxing and he could fight anyone. most fighters cant pick and choose fights like him. 1) Boxing news: Carl Froch reveals why Gennady Golovkin fight talks failed, insists he would’ve won by knockout https://talksport.com/boxing/685369/boxing-news-carl-froch-gennady-golovkin-knockout/ To assume Froch was scared of GGG is a significant reach :lol1: Froch was one of those fighters without a bit of coward in him and he PROVED it constantly. For TeamGGG to claim their client would fight ANYONE from 154-168 and break that promise something no one can deny. Instead of fighting the Fielding's and Smith's and Ryder's and Vera's of the sport (which I'm 1000000% sure they would have fought him), GGG fought the likes of LeMeh Stevens Isheda Monroe Rubio OMG the list is embarrassing I'll say it again, JCC jr could have beaten those guys He then goes on to break yet another promise - "Don't worry guys. I'm moving back down to defend my titles :boxing: !" Lara waited Falcoa waited And every other MW waited GGG wanted no part of any of those guys :lol1: He retired having a shltty resume His highlight(s) is Nelo and maybe Jacobs If KO'ing a string of bums is an accolade then add that as well :lol1: Murata ( HA) Kamil ( HA! ) Shortychenko ( ROBBED !) Rolls ( HA! ) Vanes ( HA ! ) Berlanga > Murata (the only other SMW your hero ever fought :lol1: ) Munguia > Everyone GGG fought. Including Jacobs. Imagine if Nelo went out as softly as GGG did :lol1: !!!! 2) Any promoter worth a damn will say whatever it takes to make their client seem right. TeamHaney is doing just that ignoring the FACT Haney is a thug who couldn't even hurt a carnival employee Even with the help of his paid goons :lol1: It's what promoters do :) 3) "He certainly has a better resume......'' The end, then.....no ? In closing, no amount of excuses and links would save Nelo from hateful "fight fan's" wrath if he had GGG's embarrassing resume :lol1:

So, not paying GGG respecks is what makes you quote a person :lol1: Let's break it down - 1) Prove it 2) Show me 3) OK 4) Prove it 5) To think Nelo is hated even though he has a much a better resume than GGG :lol1: You can't make this up 6) He's doing more than a bunch of fighters and not getting any of the credit did this hastily so couldnt find all the info i wanted froch-ggg https://www.boxingscene.com/froch-th...-power--106212 Froch was in talks to face Golovkin last, but offered a catch-weight of 172-pounds - which the 160-champion found a big too high. https://www.boxingscene.com/golovkin...t-claim--93042 Golovkin’s promoter Tom Loeffler took to Twitter to refute those claims by saying that they’re were asking for a catch-weight. They were and still are willing to fight the 37-year-old Froch at the full 168lb weight for the fight, and they’re willing to take the fight in the UK. ward-ggg and promoter dispute https://www.dca.ca.gov/csac/forms_pu...02_goossen.pdf Ward and his manager, James Prince,. have .been relatively uncooperative in assisting Goossen in his efforts to procure Ward a fight Ward insisted on a "tune up" fight with a lesser opponent, but HBO would not pay him the amount he demanded for such a fight https://www.badlefthook.com/2013/8/1...sartison-fight HBO Rejects Andre Ward Vs. Dimitri Sartison Aug 10, 2013​​ i know there are different goosen quotes from the arbitration where goosen says ward did not want to fight the opponents hbo wanted and ggg was on that list, couldnt find that quickly. ggg-martinez https://www.badlefthook.com/2013/6/3...t-says-dibella Who knows Gennady Golovkin other than you, me and a few other people? How many people would he bring to the table? How much money would he generate? He is the last guy ... He is a very good fighter, but it's a fight that economically makes no sense." -lou dibella ggg-sturm​ https://www.boxingscene.com/oner-exp...olovkin--61851 they approached me and they asked me how I could help them not fight Golovkin. So what happened is, I found a guy and spoke to him. And he offered Sturm a deal and said "we can ask for super champion and then you don't need to fight him.' And that's what happened," Oner told BoxingScene.com. ggg-pirog https://www.espn.com/boxing/story/_/...us-back-injury Dmitry Pirog ruptured a disc in his back while training, forcing him to pull out of an Aug. 25 HBO main event against middleweight titlist Gennady Golovkin ggg-saunders https://www.espn.com/boxing/story/_/...home-advantage "They are offering life changing money but it's not just about that because it would be a big risk for me." -billie joe saunders canelo excuses and division hopping https://www.ringtv.com/413293-canelo...-middleweight/ I’m not a middleweight,” Alvarez said when discussions veered to a potential showdown with IBF and WBA middleweight champion Gennady Golovkin. https://www.espn.com/boxing/story/_/...r-agree-bout-6 Alvarez, the former middleweight world champion, and Chavez, who also once held a world title at 160 pounds, will meet at a catchweight of 164.5 pounds. As far as proving that most 30+ year olds dont move up much in weight you can just check the boxrec stats to verify that. would be unwieldy to post tons of screenshots here. there are lots of reasons to hate on nelo: ped cheater, clear ducker of many fights, rehydro clauses, etc...he certainly has a better resume than ggg but hes also had all the opportunities in the world to make fights, its like comparing joe blow to trum-p. tru-mp started with 400 million dollars, of course he has more. canelo started with a huge fanbase and thus huge power, the guy was fighting hbo main events against mathew hatton before he beat a soul. ggg's first hbo fight was supposed to be against top 5 pirog...canelo also had a built in mexican/mexican american fanbase. completely different dynamic. canelo is doing more than a lot of fighters thats true, but once again he has way more power than anyone in boxing and he could fight anyone. most fighters cant pick and choose fights like him.

Seems like you're doing it perfectly on your own loser :rofl: Whatever that means :dunno: The good part is you kept your gay ambitions to yourself

How did ggg play it safe? He literally tried to fight ward and froch and they both said no. Move up to fight rocky fielding? Those were big fights and he couldn't get them. Then the big fights were at 160 so he stayed there. and ggg certainly didn't play it safe at 160 fighting 12 Top 10 guys while trying to fight Sturm(paid off wba to avoid ggg), pirog(got injured), Saunders(turned down big offer his own words), martinez(ggg doesn't draw so he can't fight him but he fought dzinziruk) etc... playing it safe is what tank davis is and whoa he's fought in 3 diviskns how amazing! Also what some fighters do is they division hop to avoid tough fights. Canelo for example did this fighting at 155 to avoid ggg then 164 etc... ggg obviously doesn't have the best resume but people respect him because he didn't play it safe like tank. The multi division thing is overrated. Almost every 30+ fighters stays in 1 divison for the most part. It's human physiology. The moving up in weight is always done by younger fighters in their 20s until they fill out and stay around one divison when they are 30+ Ggg didn't break through until his 30s. Not going to go through 4 to 5 divisons. You can say he should have turned pro earlier or had a better promoter but you have to be realistic to how weight works. Canelo for example since hitting 30 has fought all his fights at 168 cept 2 at 175. Floyd 30+ all fights at 147 cept 2 at 154 and 1 at 152. Pac 30+ all fights at 147 cept 1 at 140 and 1 at 150. Oscar 30+ all fights at 154 cept 2 at 160 and 1 blunder going down to 147. Whitaker 30+ all fights at 147 cept 1 at 154. Innoues first fight when he was 30+ was at 122 so maybe he moves up 1 more divison? So, not paying GGG respecks is what makes you quote a person :lol1: Let's break it down - 1) Prove it 2) Show me 3) OK 4) Prove it 5) To think Nelo is hated even though he has a much a better resume than GGG :lol1: You can't make this up 6) He's doing more than a bunch of fighters and not getting any of the credit

Still pathetic as always :rofl: Jesus half this thread is you on your knees defending him with bs claims lmfao Still waiting for your other troll threads No need to bring your h0m0seckual fantasies into this It always comes down to a "troll" having a h0m0 infused hissy fit when a person disagrees with them :lol1:

Was Nelo just given keys to the sport or did he have to earn it ? He went out there and dared to be great. MFers playing it safe and getting all the credit, excuses and passes :lol1: Most notably GGG Top 5 all time shabbiest resumes ever Consists of Nelo and.......a bunch of C Listers And given all the glory as if he ever did anything I can guarantee the sport would absolutely destroy Nelo if he stayed at 1 weight Including you ! How did ggg play it safe? He literally tried to fight ward and froch and they both said no. Move up to fight rocky fielding? Those were big fights and he couldn't get them. Then the big fights were at 160 so he stayed there. and ggg certainly didn't play it safe at 160 fighting 12 Top 10 guys while trying to fight Sturm(paid off wba to avoid ggg), pirog(got injured), Saunders(turned down big offer his own words), martinez(ggg doesn't draw so he can't fight him but he fought dzinziruk) etc... playing it safe is what tank davis is and whoa he's fought in 3 diviskns how amazing! Also what some fighters do is they division hop to avoid tough fights. Canelo for example did this fighting at 155 to avoid ggg then 164 etc... ggg obviously doesn't have the best resume but people respect him because he didn't play it safe like tank. The multi division thing is overrated. Almost every 30+ fighters stays in 1 divison for the most part. It's human physiology. The moving up in weight is always done by younger fighters in their 20s until they fill out and stay around one divison when they are 30+ Ggg didn't break through until his 30s. Not going to go through 4 to 5 divisons. You can say he should have turned pro earlier or had a better promoter but you have to be realistic to how weight works. Canelo for example since hitting 30 has fought all his fights at 168 cept 2 at 175. Floyd 30+ all fights at 147 cept 2 at 154 and 1 at 152. Pac 30+ all fights at 147 cept 1 at 140 and 1 at 150. Oscar 30+ all fights at 154 cept 2 at 160 and 1 blunder going down to 147. Whitaker 30+ all fights at 147 cept 1 at 154. Innoues first fight when he was 30+ was at 122 so maybe he moves up 1 more divison?

Man, if you're a man, canelo's resume is a piece of crap . Name an active fighter with a better resume Should be super easy

Was Nelo just given keys to the sport or did he have to earn it ? He went out there and dared to be great. MFers playing it safe and getting all the credit, excuses and passes :lol1: Most notably GGG Top 5 all time shabbiest resumes ever Consists of Nelo and.......a bunch of C Listers And given all the glory as if he ever did anything I can guarantee the sport would absolutely destroy Nelo if he stayed at 1 weight Including you ! Man, if you're a man, canelo's resume is a piece of crap consisting of old men past their prime, and domestic level from all over the world. The guy is a fraud and I don't care about what you have to say. The guy lost to an old floyd, had two close fight with guys in their prime jacobs and trout, and got a gift against Lara, then he waited out ggg until he showed decline and still got another gift, he got caught for ped was suspended and have another close fight with a past his prime ggg, we have to mention that the guy didn't fought him again until he was 40/41 years old, jut to make sure he didn't have another surprise. Then he went after another portion of the 175, he got slapped around the ring and that was enough for him. Do not reply if you're not touching any of the subjects I brought up. Keep your love to yourself. By the way canelo doesn't need anyone to destroy him, he is capable of doing it all by himself, don't you see it? And he moved up in weight because he couldn't keep up with the draining which I don't care, I'm a fan of boxing not of a boxer, if they can do what the Hawk did 80+ year ago and work, good for them. I don't care as long as they fight the best.