Beterbiev will stop Bivol

Bivol would be the best opponent that Beterbiev has ever faced but we shall see. I do slightly favor Beterbiev however. Bivol at some point is going to have to fight Arthur off of hm which will be very interesting. This could be, to a much lesser degree, Foreman vs Ali. A good boxer can eliminate the power of a good puncher. May did it all the time (NOT saying Biv is on his level, boxing wise)

I dont think it will be enough, Beter is not discouraged by arm punches. 20 men havent been able to keep him at distance. I have seen Bivol rocked by a gassed joe smith who couldnt finish him.Joe Smith changed levels to catch Biv with that overhand in round 4 and then another overhand in round 10 Bet likes to be upright Bet has been reset by combos in the past by the other smith Biv can win without wobbling Bet or putting him on his ass

I could see that coming back to bite him if bivol decided to press beterbiev when he thinks hes tired. beterbiev woudl love for bivol to come to him and not have to chase him down. i recognize that bivol has to have some kind of strategy though, that is a possible one. he might try to stay planted the opening round to get some kind of mental edge and show he cant be pushed around That would IMO be a horrible strategy that would work out as well as it did for Sunny Edwards vs Bam Rodriguez. He just needs to fight his normal fight. It will either be good enough, or it won't. I hope they each bring their A game. I do think that this is one of the best fights in boxing because the stylistic elements in each one's game could lead to the other one looking overhyped or washed. Beterbiev is a momentum fighter from what I've seen. He breaks you down round by round until the inevitable TKO. My favorite fight of his might be the Marcus Browne fight. Reminded me of Wolverine. Gets that cut and it's like "you went and made him mad" and he just turned it up and destroyed Browne, who was giving a good account of himself until then. But Bivol is an endurance fighter who also has that pressure of always being in your face. I've never seen him throw fewer than 30 punches in a round, and often he's throwing more than 80. It's such a good matchup. I hope we get a FOTY candidate.

Some counter points. In his last signature fights, Beterbiev just walks his prey down but doesn't open up until they're on the ropes. Vs Smith, he threw zero punches on the back foot. Smith walked his own fool butt to the ropes and tried to play rope-a-dope and got clobbered, while Bivol is likely the hardest guy in the sport to walk down. If Beterbiev can't get him on the ropes, it could be a long night. Second, Bivol has shown that he will push the aggressive fighters back when they want to rest, even when they're bigger guys, and that he can go 12 at the same high pace for fight after fight. Beterbiev maintains his pace because he takes rests while the opponents put themselves where he wants them. Bivol doesn't let anyone do that. So Beterbiev's got to be able to fight above his preferred pace and at Bivol's pace long enough to finish him. That's why I think it's very possible for him to look old in this fight, even though I think he'd be right back to normal vs just about anyone else. My x factors are what effect that clubbing right behind the ear will have on Bivol, and who establishes the jab first. I think Bivol by clear decision effectively, but close on the cards, is the most likely outcome, followed by Beterbiev smashing him in 10 if he can't actually keep off the ropes vs Beterbiev. Could be that Beterbiev's actually got even more skill at walking people down than I saw in his last fights because he didn't NEED that skill in those fights. Either way, one of them is going to have a long day at the office on October 12. I could see that coming back to bite him if bivol decided to press beterbiev when he thinks hes tired. beterbiev woudl love for bivol to come to him and not have to chase him down. i recognize that bivol has to have some kind of strategy though, that is a possible one. he might try to stay planted the opening round to get some kind of mental edge and show he cant be pushed around

He won’t be able to get into range for counters if he’s dominated in jabbing Biv would be the faster guy controlling the distance in this scenario Bet looks like a mummy I dont think it will be enough, Beter is not discouraged by arm punches. 20 men havent been able to keep him at distance. I have seen Bivol rocked by a gassed joe smith who couldnt finish him.

Beterbiev`s huge head will be eating counters all the time. I will come back to this comment to gloat on Oct 12

Wow you actually like a boxer for once? All these years and I've never seen you not b1tch at fighters over anything. I have no idea who you are

He doesnt need to set it up., I said he will counter over top bivols jab. not set it up with his jab He won’t be able to get into range for counters if he’s dominated in jabbing Biv would be the faster guy controlling the distance in this scenario Bet looks like a mummy

Some counter points. In his last signature fights, Beterbiev just walks his prey down but doesn't open up until they're on the ropes. Vs Smith, he threw zero punches on the back foot. Smith walked his own fool butt to the ropes and tried to play rope-a-dope and got clobbered, while Bivol is likely the hardest guy in the sport to walk down. If Beterbiev can't get him on the ropes, it could be a long night. Second, Bivol has shown that he will push the aggressive fighters back when they want to rest, even when they're bigger guys, and that he can go 12 at the same high pace for fight after fight. Beterbiev maintains his pace because he takes rests while the opponents put themselves where he wants them. Bivol doesn't let anyone do that. So Beterbiev's got to be able to fight above his preferred pace and at Bivol's pace long enough to finish him. That's why I think it's very possible for him to look old in this fight, even though I think he'd be right back to normal vs just about anyone else. My x factors are what effect that clubbing right behind the ear will have on Bivol, and who establishes the jab first. I think Bivol by clear decision effectively, but close on the cards, is the most likely outcome, followed by Beterbiev smashing him in 10 if he can't actually keep off the ropes vs Beterbiev. Could be that Beterbiev's actually got even more skill at walking people down than I saw in his last fights because he didn't NEED that skill in those fights. Either way, one of them is going to have a long day at the office on October 12.

Predicting KO/TKO between rounds 8-10. Several factors for this. - people are over hyping the age disadvantage for Beterbiev. Everyone gets old eventually but Beterbiev just fought in January and hasnt looked old yet. that is just speculation on their part that he will suddenly be old for this fight. - people over hype the canelo win for Bivol. sure it was a good win but it is irrelevant to this fight. Beterbiev isnt a middleweight and he would have stopped canelo in under 4. - beterbiev isnt just a brute, he is a highly skilled and more decorated amateur fighter than even bivol. hes put guys to sleep with counters - beterbiev has stopped multiple guys who never been down in their pro careers - very good point i saw made recently that Beterbiev has faced the soviet style his entire life, hes seen bivols style many times and knows what works with it - beterbiev has excellent stamina, i never seen him tire before - i seen bivol rocked by a tired joe smith who couldnt follow through with it, beterbiev will follow through with it - beterbiev knows how to cut the ring off. i never seen a guy be able to run from him all night which is what bivol will have to do. I will bump this thread post fight to gloat Wow you actually like a boxer for once? All these years and I've never seen you not b1tch at fighters over anything.

Beterbiev`s huge head will be eating counters all the time.

I'm guessing Beter's longer reach is due to him having wider shoulders I think Beter will have 10 pounds over Biv on fight night who rehydrates only to 185 Bet is bigger starting with the size of their heads That 1'' is not noticeable. Skill will be the deciding factor here

I'm guessing Beter's longer reach is due to him having wider shoulders I think Beter will have 10 pounds over Biv on fight night who rehydrates only to 185 Bet is bigger starting with the size of their heads Bet overhand gets countered as he'll be unable to set it up with his jab neutered by Biv! I see Bet going for the long right hook to the body He doesnt need to set it up., I said he will counter over top bivols jab. not set it up with his jab

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CRyhoBSdnxc vs https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BAiEw_PTb9o Both are 6' Biv 72'' reach Beter 73" I'm guessing Beter's longer reach is due to him having wider shoulders I think Beter will have 10 pounds over Biv on fight night who rehydrates only to 185 Bet is bigger starting with the size of their heads Bivol is going to eat body shots and the overhand right counter over his jabBet overhand gets countered as he'll be unable to set it up with his jab neutered by Biv! I see Bet going for the long right hook to the body

Bivol is going to eat body shots and the overhand right counter over his jab

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CRyhoBSdnxc vs https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BAiEw_PTb9o Both are 6' Biv 72'' reach Beter 73"

Very possible. I wouldn't put money on this one.

No one starts their prime at 34 years old. He’s been fighting consistently since he was however young, with several hundred amateur fights. You guys never take into account all the running, sparring, strength and conditioning, mitt and bag work that accumulates over 20+years (especially with how intense his regimen is). Just because he started pro later, does not mean his prime started late as well. He lives a healthy lifestyle and takes care of himself outside the ring, but he’s still 39.career prime vs physical prime his most recent string of wins are among his best

Bet went pro late at 28 he has less wear & tear than the typical pro at his age his prime started in the Radivoje Kalajdzic fight. At 34 years of age in 2019 ​Bet’s last 3 wins are his most impressive streak of victory still prime if his knee is healthy and works No one starts their prime at 34 years old. He’s been fighting consistently since he was however young, with several hundred amateur fights. You guys never take into account all the running, sparring, strength and conditioning, mitt and bag work that accumulates over 20+years (especially with how intense his regimen is). Just because he started pro later, does not mean his prime started late as well. He lives a healthy lifestyle and takes care of himself outside the ring, but he’s still 39.

hes still an oldie for the sport, effective ones do crop up now and then but this is his big test, oldies often fail this type of test, we shall see if Bet loses to Biv, contingent based on what Bet does after this fight Imo Bet can go up to cruiserweight beat Biv’s good Mexican friend Zurdo and have a Great War with Jai