Who do want Haney to fight next?

I don't know but do we all have to pretend that Haney is unbeaten? That we never saw him get his ass kicked? Nash out - His Excellency

Haney ain't fighting those 2nd-tier guys. Getting beat by those levels is probably worse than getting beat by Ryan Garcia. More specific question is which fight would give him the money he demands other than Teo or a rematch with Garcia? I can't think of any other than Tank, who has perpetually snubbed him since time immemorial, not to mention the now huge weight difference. Shakur is not a money fight, again not to mention the huge difference in weight. Who else is there that would motivate him to go back in the ring?​ He's basically done. It's becoming typical these days. Go only for the money fights. Unfortunately, there's not many of them and clock begins to tick counting the number of years you've been out of the ring.

Haney is in a situation where he can't even take the Matiases, Ortiz, Commey, Puello, Martin, Pitbull, Ramirez, even the JZepedas, Taylor, etc. They're still high risks to him, but low reward. And it's understandable. Anyone would rather get beat by a top guy and be rewarded with better money. It's no different from Jermall who'd rather not fight at all and just wait for his turn to the Canelo sweepstakes. Unfortunately for him, it didn't happen. The Liam Paro fight would have been that type of high risk, but high reward fight for him. That's the fight Hearn has been working out for him. Looks like he turned it down. Could be he's not ready to shed that huge weight of his, or simply don't feel like coming back in the ring yet. Haney ain't fighting those 2nd-tier guys. Getting beat by those levels is probably worse than getting beat by Ryan Garcia. More specific question is which fight would give him the money he demands other than Teo or a rematch with Garcia? I can't think of any other than Tank, who has perpetually snubbed him since time immemorial, not to mention the now huge weight difference. Shakur is not a money fight, again not to mention the huge difference in weight. Who else is there that would motivate him to go back in the ring?​ He's basically done.

Nothing like a revenge match The sooner the better :boxing: Sometimes it seems the only people that do not realize how important this fight is are the Haneys. It is like they are oblivious to the fact haney needs to beat Garcia. And Boo Hoo Hoo!!! Life isn't fair for poor Devin because Garcia cheated... I do not buy it. Said it before will say it again, Haney may not have broken laws but is excessive hydration was eyebrow raising, he is hardly a victim. A young guy with millions in the bank crying about Ryan and his cheating is ridiculous. make a fight that will be a real nice payday and either lose again and call it a career, or claim redemption. It is a simple problem, with a simple solution. If he cannot face Garcia again, take your money buy up Bitcoin, and invest in real estate...

Haney is in a situation where he can't even take the Matiases, Ortiz, Commey, Puello, Martin, Pitbull, Ramirez, even the JZepedas, Taylor, etc. They're still high risks to him, but low reward. And it's understandable. Anyone would rather get beat by a top guy and be rewarded with better money. It's no different from Jermall who'd rather not fight at all and just wait for his turn to the Canelo sweepstakes. Unfortunately for him, it didn't happen. The Liam Paro fight would have been that type of high risk, but high reward fight for him. That's the fight Hearn has been working out for him. Looks like he turned it down. Could be he's not ready to shed that huge weight of his, or simply don't feel like coming back in the ring yet. Your post above outlined the situation with excellent details... Yes. All his fights are sort of a perpetual "B side" where the A side is circumstances lol. he is still a kid and all these guys forget that man strength cometh and so does weight. My own younger boy is finding this out, having been upset at his 160 pound frame, and seeing a growing spurt. But you just do not see the fighters prepare for this inevitability. Some guys like Tank and Pitbull Cruz seem to be able to stay at a weight... Cruz is very young as well, but does not look like he is getting bigger. Not long ago when Haney was preparing for Prograis I watched him on Youtube hitting a bag, and you could see how much bigger he had gotten! These young guys are not in it for the same reasons... Hence the "sweep stakes" looking for that opportunity at a big fight. It is a shame it does not appear to be dong them any favors...

The question is why. I think a lot of people assume it's the money. It may well be... There's just a possibility that he's got some issues along the lines of self-confidence, his weight, etc. I hope it works out for him Haney is in a situation where he can't even take the Matiases, Ortiz, Commey, Puello, Martin, Pitbull, Ramirez, even the JZepedas, Taylor, etc. They're still high risks to him, but low reward. And it's understandable. Anyone would rather get beat by a top guy and be rewarded with better money. It's no different from Jermall who'd rather not fight at all and just wait for his turn to the Canelo sweepstakes. Unfortunately for him, it didn't happen. The Liam Paro fight would have been that type of high risk, but high reward fight for him. That's the fight Hearn has been working out for him. Looks like he turned it down. Could be he's not ready to shed that huge weight of his, or simply don't feel like coming back in the ring yet.

I wouldn't worry about going to court one iota if I were Garcia. I tested positive, didn't know what I drank was contaminated, etc. I am not the commission that allowed the fight to take place, ask the commissioner why, not me. Which is why it's in no way an open-and-shut case for the accusers. Not to mention the difficulty of proving small amount of substance suddenly becomes similar to Popeye the sailor man taking spinach to beat Brutus like a rag-doll. You're fooling yourself if you believe in fantasy. Conduct a survey and see if you can convince people with that nonsense.

I mean it's pretty standard for some fighters to take their stay-busy fights in between big fights. Teo and Loma didn't look good when they fought Jamaine Ortiz. They both looked good when they fought Commey. Loma looked good when he fought a towering Nakatani, while Teo didn't. Lopez also didn't look good when he fought Martin and Claggett. And so on and so forth. It entails risks, but Loma and Teo had no issues taking them. It's looking like Haney wants no part of these low-reward fights known as stay-busy fights. Some even call them tuneups. The question is why. I think a lot of people assume it's the money. It may well be... There's just a possibility that he's got some issues along the lines of self-confidence, his weight, etc. I hope it works out for him

Garcia in court. I wouldn't worry about going to court one iota if I were Garcia. I tested positive, didn't know what I drank was contaminated, etc. I am not the commission that allowed the fight to take place, ask the commissioner why, not me.

Garcia in court.

Even a stay busy is shaky if Haney has to adjust to a new natural weight. Professional prize fighting can be very misleading... Even a guy who has a record of 10 wins and 10 losses, with one KO, will come in with a renewed sense of purpose and a blue print stamped in training that demands he try to test Haney's chin. Haney has gotten bigger and as some of our more astute members have noted, he is a welter. He cannot really even make 140 without causing himself more problems... He just does not have the experience of fighting guys his own size at above 130. Wasn't he bigger than Regis Prograis? I mean it's pretty standard for some fighters to take their stay-busy fights in between big fights. Teo and Loma didn't look good when they fought Jamaine Ortiz. They both looked good when they fought Commey. Loma looked good when he fought a towering Nakatani, while Teo didn't. Lopez also didn't look good when he fought Martin and Claggett. And so on and so forth. It entails risks, but Loma and Teo had no issues taking them. It's looking like Haney wants no part of these low-reward fights known as stay-busy fights. Some even call them tuneups.

Puello. Earn his title back.

His personal demons.

Question is why can't he take stay-busy fights? Loma and Teo fought Commey, Nakatani, Jamaine Ortiz. Certainly not walk-in-the-park fights especially for a small guy like Loma. Haney can't even take those types of fights, can he? Even a stay busy is shaky if Haney has to adjust to a new natural weight. Professional prize fighting can be very misleading... Even a guy who has a record of 10 wins and 10 losses, with one KO, will come in with a renewed sense of purpose and a blue print stamped in training that demands he try to test Haney's chin. Haney has gotten bigger and as some of our more astute members have noted, he is a welter. He cannot really even make 140 without causing himself more problems... He just does not have the experience of fighting guys his own size at above 130. Wasn't he bigger than Regis Prograis?

Nothing like a revenge match The sooner the better :boxing:

Question is why can't he take stay-busy fights? Loma and Teo fought Commey, Nakatani, Jamaine Ortiz. Certainly not walk-in-the-park fights especially for a small guy like Loma. Haney can't even take those types of fights, can he?

A real problem ain't it? Haney has been a weight bully and karma is a biatch. Cryin laughingly said "I had a 3 pound weight advantage." So that means with all his extra weight the difference between Ryan and Haney was merely 3 lb. Haney has been reliant on that strategy and it looks like the chickens have come home to roost. He's just not prepared to go up and weight and fight at his natural weight. I think he is aware of this I don't even know if we're going to see him fight again. His entire strategy, this whole game has been predicated on an advantage which he can no longer maintain.

Doesn't really matter. He's a weight bully at 140 with no power and will get destroyed at 147. He SHOULD fight any of the champs at 140. My preference would be Teo, and their dads can scrap on the undercard, because they'll do it for free outside the ring otherwise. I'd like to see him take on Tank or rematch Loma at 135, but doubt he can make it. I'm not even sure he makes 140 again. He's built to be welter or super welter, which is why he's 25 lbs up on fight night. And I think Ryan took his soul. I don't really want to see him rematch Ryan because I don't think Ryan deserves that money again, but he might honestly need that for his own peace of mind, because I bet that, despite what he says, he's wondering if it would have happened anyways despite the PEDs. From what I saw, the issue was technical and strategic. Ryan has only EVER had one weapon. The left hook is the only thing he's ever so much as knocked an opponent down with, and Team Haney SHOULD have had a gameplan for it. But he couldn't keep his right glove up, and he didn't use any footwork or defensive head movement to preempt the left hook, and made zero adjustments. Ryan was the first opponent he's ever fought in his while career who was anywhere close to being his own size, and his bad habits from fighting nothing but smaller guys sure looked like they came back to bite him. But also, screw Ryan for not being clean and being such a tool. He doesn't deserve any more fights at all if that's how he's going to be.

Who do you want Haney to fight next? You need to ask Eddie Hearn that question. That's whom Haney begs fights from, who else? Haney turned down the Paro fight, which Eddie has been working on after the Matias fight. Paro has expressed approval on that fight and sees it as a money fight in Australia. (Check out recent NSB articles.) Haney is even fighting with Eddie now. He's biting the hand that feeds him.​​

I don't care who he fights as long as he fights soon... It almost seems as if he's lost focus and has let the success he's achieved get to his head. He's still young and can be involved in some big fights..