It boggles my mind. It really does.
Shouldn't these testing bodies and commissions get sued also for letting fights to go on inadvertently knowing or not that the other fighter is tested positive?
What do you think guys?
You have a point. In many cases, it's weeks after the fight is already over. And in some cases, it's not even the winner that got exposed.
I'm thinking, maybe they're required to give urine samples after the fight and that sample is their basis for the positive test, I don't know.
But still, why only when the fight is over, not before? This sport is a huge mess, not to mention judges able to change course of fighters'
careers and the sport in general awarding fights to undeserving ones.
Primary aim is to protect fighters. In this case they're pretty much useless. Damage has been done. I just can't wrap my head around it.
its all about money. if they cancel a headliner fight thus canceling an event like the week of the fight everyone loses a ton of money. a lot of money already dumped on promotion, all kinds of mini contracts made, venue secured, fight camps paid for on and on. even if they have a last minute replacement well the fight wont sell like it did with the two who were supposed to fight.
if they conveniently announce the test findings after the event well everyone saved a lot of money
That's really only for the test the night of the fight. They test all throughout camp as well.
No they don't. That only happens if it's random blood and urine testing which is very rare in boxing.
The post fight test is meant as a deterrent for fighters as anything they would take to help them on fight night would likely be in their system if tested immediately after the fight and would cost them money and be stripped of titles etc..
The purpose is to selectively exposed violators AFTER the fight is over. It's certainly not to protect fighters, nah. People say everyone is cheating, yet the administrators only exposed one, two people a year. Doesn't make any sense.
Legalize and control it.
If a person goes outside the sport to dope up, lifetime ban.
Drugs don't hurt anyone.
Barely makes them ''better''
''Then why do they take them ?!?!?!?''
Mental edge :dunno:
That's really only for the test the night of the fight. They test all throughout camp as well.
No, it’s not.
Why do you speak on things you are clueless about? I would love to know.
Boxing is a business first and a sport second.
Not in all cases. Conor Benn vs Eubank Jr. entire card got canceled on the eve of the fight. That must really hurt if you're one of the promoters and investors. There are many cases in the US where there are no testing at all. And I fully understand. Why would I invest in this business when it can be canceled any time?
It boggles my mind. It really does.
Shouldn't these testing bodies and commissions get sued also for letting fights to go on inadvertently knowing or not that the other fighter is tested positive?
What do you think guys?
So it wont interrupt the fight, duh.
Boxing is a business first and a sport second.
Swimmers get banned for many years.
Boxers just ask their marketing manager to create a narrative and get off with either nothing or a slap on the wrist.
one of the weird things about being busted for peds is that those busted rarely if ever produce any evidence of how they got 'contaminated', i mean they are pro athletes with pro trainers nutrition etc & they keep track of what they take & know exactly what supplements they are on etc & yet never produce any evidence of anything when if u wanted to you could buy a few tubs of whatever u take and if one was contaminated u just give the whole lot to the testers to find out what happened, that is just a basic way of doing it of course, they are all cheating scum basically just like ryan cryin garcia, some get away scott free and some dont, its a farce surely
Who are we kidding... Alice Baum is still able to smile, able to keep her belts, no requirement to compensate her previous opponents, no lengthy suspension, no real venomous outrage from biased fans, nothing. It's a corrupt sport from top to bottom.
yeah its a bit like justin trouser snake getting caught loaded behind the wheel barely able to keep a straight line, refuses an alcohol test & then claims he wasnt drunk and only had one drink & he doesnt even get a driving ban lol, its a total insult to all victims of drunk drivers & an outrage really
if u get busted for peds post fight, for whatever reason, no excuses, u responsible, a % of your purse goes to your opponent automatically as well as mandated ban & u pay for enhanced testing for x number of years when u come back, that might make em go hhhhmmm
Who are we kidding... Alice Baum is still able to smile, able to keep her belts, no requirement to compensate her previous opponents, no lengthy suspension, no real venomous outrage from biased fans, nothing. It's a corrupt sport from top to bottom.
if u get busted for peds post fight, for whatever reason, no excuses, u responsible, a % of your purse goes to your opponent automatically as well as mandated ban & u pay for enhanced testing for x number of years when u come back, that might make em go hhhhmmm
There’s nothing they can do about it if the sample that tests positive is one of the samples that are taken closer to the fight.
Because it takes a while to get the results back.
You have a point. In many cases, it's weeks after the fight is already over. And in some cases, it's not even the winner that got exposed.
I'm thinking, maybe they're required to give urine samples after the fight and that sample is their basis for the positive test, I don't know.
But still, why only when the fight is over, not before? This sport is a huge mess, not to mention judges able to change course of fighters'
careers and the sport in general awarding fights to undeserving ones.
Primary aim is to protect fighters. In this case they're pretty much useless. Damage has been done. I just can't wrap my head around it.
testers take sample, send to lab, gets tested etc, takes time i think, not sure how long but maybe weeks, should be done asap within 10 days or so but people are people and things take time, for example bumgardner got busted 3 days before her fight but took time for the results to come out, they got eggie in time even tho eddie tried to push it through anyway & he has done that in the past as well, hes a total weasel and only cares for the $$$$
I think they should just stop all testing.
testing gives an unfair advantage to the wealthiest fighters, they can spend the money on a coach and team to get them to pass all tests. the poorer fighter may not be able to afford that and takes more risks getting caught.
it really took off in early 2000s. we saw a rapid shift in older fighters dominating younger guys. look how many guys over 33 there are at the elite level and compare that to the 1980s. 33-35 used to be shot territory. look at SRL, Ali, ect all shot by that age.
even "old" fighters who were still "competitive" like late 30s larry holmes, late 30s archie moore, ect they were still old and way past prime. now look at late 30s fighters they are dominating younger guys
all of this happening while men's testosterone in the general population is plummeting. testosterone in men was way higher in the 70s and 80s than now. of course with PEDs that changes everything.