What will be the main excuse when Beterbiev loses to Bivol?

Biv had a 85% ko ratio up until he changed his style to prevent being cut from head clashes and for preserving his hands 175 is only Biv’s first weight class. He has the power to make anyone think twice at 175 Alvarez has a better chin and defense than Beterbiev and still had to respect Biv’s power imo like Floyd, Biv lack of stoppages come from him not going for the ko rather than no power You are the first poster to mention Bivol’s hands and surgeries. That is my concern, Bivol has plenty of power; just can’t apply it properly with brittle hands! :boxing:

Bivol doesn't necessarily fight off the back foot anyway. He has a very skilled in and out style, statistically the most accurate fighter and also best defence. You're not walking Bivol down without eating accurate combinations. It doesn't matter too much that he's not a huge puncher, he's got enough power to deter anyone with his accurate combinations. Walking through him is very difficult due to that and his judgement of distant. Very accurate punching is a bigger deterrent than power a lot of the time. That's guys like Floyd could cut a fighters work rate in half and make them unwilling to try to walk through him. Don't be surprised when Beterbiev can't just bully him like he has with others. Beterbiev is gonna have to work extremely hard to get success. If there's any style to make you look 40, it's someome like Bivol. On the flip side,Beterbiev is a much better boxer than he's given credit for. It's a fascinating fight.Biv had a 85% ko ratio up until he changed his style to prevent being cut from head clashes and for preserving his hands 175 is only Biv’s first weight class. He has the power to make anyone think twice at 175 Alvarez has a better chin and defense than Beterbiev and still had to respect Biv’s power imo like Floyd, Biv lack of stoppages come from him not going for the ko rather than no power

My answer would be all of the above. However, I don't see that ever happening. Artur Beterbiev is just too strong and I can easily see him walking Bivol down behind his jab. Bivol won't win this fight by fighting off the back foot. If he is going to stand any chance of winning this fight. Then he is going to have to find a way to back Beterbiev up. He is simply going to have to take some risks. Bivol doesn't necessarily fight off the back foot anyway. He has a very skilled in and out style, statistically the most accurate fighter and also best defence. You're not walking Bivol down without eating accurate combinations. It doesn't matter too much that he's not a huge puncher, he's got enough power to deter anyone with his accurate combinations. Walking through him is very difficult due to that and his judgement of distant. Very accurate punching is a bigger deterrent than power a lot of the time. That's guys like Floyd could cut a fighters work rate in half and make them unwilling to try to walk through him. Don't be surprised when Beterbiev can't just bully him like he has with others. Beterbiev is gonna have to work extremely hard to get success. If there's any style to make you look 40, it's someome like Bivol. On the flip side,Beterbiev is a much better boxer than he's given credit for. It's a fascinating fight.

What does Beterbiev do AFTER this fight I think Beter will have 3 good fights after which would invalidate the he old doe excuse

My answer would be all of the above. However, I don't see that ever happening. Artur Beterbiev is just too strong and I can easily see him walking Bivol down behind his jab. Bivol won't win this fight by fighting off the back foot. If he is going to stand any chance of winning this fight. Then he is going to have to find a way to back Beterbiev up. He is simply going to have to take some risks.Bivol is an in & out boxer he juggles between the front foot when in and the back foot when out he doesn’t go full blown back foot Bet has was reset by combos from Callum Smith who’s nowhere near as good as Biv

Well the guy turns 40 in January. Not an excuse but surely nobody believes Beterbiev is in his prime. Maybe not, but he's just finished his cycle, so that helps. The guy has postponed his last 3 fights through "injury"...and had an "atypical finding" in his last drug test for his last fight. He's very suspect.

1. he is old 2.past his prime 3. knee injury... Always the same story. Bivol never gets any credit. Bivol 10-2 in rounds or late stoppage. My answer would be all of the above. However, I don't see that ever happening. Artur Beterbiev is just too strong and I can easily see him walking Bivol down behind his jab. Bivol won't win this fight by fighting off the back foot. If he is going to stand any chance of winning this fight. Then he is going to have to find a way to back Beterbiev up. He is simply going to have to take some risks.

1. he is old 2.past his prime 3. knee injury... Always the same story. Bivol never gets any credit. Bivol 10-2 in rounds or late stoppage. My answer would be all of the above. However, I don't see that ever happening. Artur Beterbiev is just too strong and I can easily see him walking Bivol down behind his jab. Bivol won't win the fight off the back foot. His going to have to back Beterbiev up to win this fight.

bivol is old. beterbiev is ancient and his body is breaking apart. he was injured almost every year in the last 10 years. it's still better for this fight to happen now than never. let's appreciate it! the winner is a hall of famer and top10 light heavyweight ever.

What will be Bivol's excuse when he loses?

Bivol gets finished around 9th. He doesn't have what it takes to keep Beterbiev off of him for 12 rounds.

1. he is old 2.past his prime 3. knee injury... Always the same story. Bivol never gets any credit. Bivol 10-2 in rounds or late stoppage. Yeah it's true there will.be whining. People will blame Bivols wife for fucking with his head in the lead up if he loses too. Its possible that is just some way to hype the fight though. Bivol and his wife seemed pretty tight before, could be a ruse. Gonna be a great fight anyway.

Arum, as it should be

Well the guy turns 40 in January. Not an excuse but surely nobody believes Beterbiev is in his prime.

The only valid excuse i can think of is Beterbiev being old, which he really is. More than that are just fanboy excuses. I still do favor Beterbiev to win because he already fought well schooled boxers like Gvozdyk and done pretty well, and there is a really low chance for Bivol to get a knockout win. Bivol needs to be at the top of his game and not get caught at full 12 rounds. Two possible outcomes Beterbiev KO/TKO Bivol or Very close Desicion Bivol over Beterbiev

Which makes me wonder out of curiosity what will be the excuse to discredit Beterbiev when Bivol loses? 1. Bivol was an overrated featherfist to begin with 2. Ref gave an early stoppage (if it is a TKO) to help Beterbiev who was losing on the cards 3. Beterbiev must be on roids so it doesn't count 4. The judges were paid Pretty much the script for whenever a guy a fan doesn't like wins.

We know you're a Bivol groupie but goddamn, this type of preemptive complaining is so fucking annoying.

Which makes me wonder out of curiosity what will be the excuse to discredit Beterbiev when Bivol loses? 1. Bivol was an overrated featherfist to begin with 2. Ref gave an early stoppage (if it is a TKO) to help Beterbiev who was losing on the cards 3. Beterbiev must be on roids so it doesn't count 4. The judges were paid

Bivol will get knocked out in the 10th round

1. he is old 2.past his prime 3. knee injury... Always the same story. Bivol never gets any credit. Bivol 10-2 in rounds or late stoppage. Always…!!??? Beterbiev has never lost to give an excuse, lmfao…