Prime Wilder beats prime Joshua

Oh you mean the 50 million that Joshua had to agree to without seeig any contract? Yeah thats not a serious contract. so ducking a fight is now called betting on yourself? Good to know. Well joshua bet on himself then! Oh wait you kjow what happened? Joshua signed a huge deal with dazn for far more money than wilder offered! Oops!!! And guess what? He even offered Wilder the fight for far more money after signing his deal with dazn. Wilder turned down the fight to make less money and not to fight joshua. You see the difference now? One guy sent a real contract for 100 million. Other guy sent an email then ghosted. Pretty sure 100 million is better than 50 anyway if you want to pretend wilders offer was real. Joshua literally offered Wilder 100 million a couple months after his fake 50 million offer. Dont act like he ducked the fight. Why in the world would Wilder avoid a high paying guy with a sub-par chin? Ducking claims are silly. Wilder is imperfect, both in his style and in the WBC opponent selection he was bound to....But he simply had far too much TNT for a fighter the likes of A. J. That debate is sooo over. ​​Their quality of opposition was very similar. Joshua has the edge there, but lost 4 times during his prime time. Respect to them both. This is the combat sport that pats hundreds of millions and the highest mountain for any athlete to climb. Done.

Thing with Wilder is that he is a bit fragile against those super Heavy's. Wilder is not a 'bull in a china store' that is all wrong for AJ like Dubois and Ruiz are so AJ would be able to put some punches together.

Oh you mean the 50 million that Joshua had to agree to without seeig any contract? Yeah thats not a serious contract. so ducking a fight is now called betting on yourself? Good to know. Well joshua bet on himself then! Oh wait you kjow what happened? Joshua signed a huge deal with dazn for far more money than wilder offered! Oops!!! And guess what? He even offered Wilder the fight for far more money after signing his deal with dazn. Wilder turned down the fight to make less money and not to fight joshua. You see the difference now? One guy sent a real contract for 100 million. Other guy sent an email then ghosted. Pretty sure 100 million is better than 50 anyway if you want to pretend wilders offer was real. Joshua literally offered Wilder 100 million a couple months after his fake 50 million offer. Dont act like he ducked the fight. You seem to be hung up on money and contracts. If AJ had truly wanted to fight Wilder all he had to do was stop being a diva princess with all the a-side demands and pay the man what he wanted. But nope. Didn't happen cos he woulda got an Alabama asswhippin for his troubles.

Judges would definitely have the night off

Absolutely. All the arguments AJ fans used for why he would beat Wilder are the exact same arguments everyone just used for why he would beat Dubois. Joshua just faced someone he knows is a puncher and has been dropped by him before and STILL he dropped his hands and stepped straight back.

Wilder bet on himself, rolled the dice v Fury and lost. AJ had the chance for undisputed, undefeated grand unified champ status v Prime Wilder in 2018 and bottled it over a-side shenanigans and extra money. Them's the facts! Oh you mean the 50 million that Joshua had to agree to without seeig any contract? Yeah thats not a serious contract. so ducking a fight is now called betting on yourself? Good to know. Well joshua bet on himself then! Oh wait you kjow what happened? Joshua signed a huge deal with dazn for far more money than wilder offered! Oops!!! And guess what? He even offered Wilder the fight for far more money after signing his deal with dazn. Wilder turned down the fight to make less money and not to fight joshua. You see the difference now? One guy sent a real contract for 100 million. Other guy sent an email then ghosted. Pretty sure 100 million is better than 50 anyway if you want to pretend wilders offer was real. Joshua literally offered Wilder 100 million a couple months after his fake 50 million offer. Dont act like he ducked the fight.

you will never be able to explain away why wilder ducked the fight and 100 million dollars. why dont you blame wilder for ducking that offer? instead you blame joshua for not offering him 200 million? its just silly fanboyism Wilder bet on himself, rolled the dice v Fury and lost. AJ had the chance for undisputed, undefeated grand unified champ status v Prime Wilder in 2018 and bottled it over a-side shenanigans and extra money. Them's the facts!

Based on the fact they never made Wilder an offer he couldn't refuse and never fought because of it. All that a-side posturing and setting up roadblocks to age and shop wear Wilder shows they were never serious and knew AJ was a sitting duck for the Windmills right hand of doom. AJ ducked Ortiz, Wilder, Joyce, Parker 2, Zhang and Hrgovic. Whatever he coulda, shoulda woulda done is irrelevant cos he didn't. And for all that he got splattered senseless by the guy he should have ducked this time. you will never be able to explain away why wilder ducked the fight and 100 million dollars. why dont you blame wilder for ducking that offer? instead you blame joshua for not offering him 200 million? its just silly fanboyism

based on what? the facts are joshua offered wilder 12 million dollars when wilder was making 1 million a fight. how is that running scared? joshua literally offered wilder 100 million and wilder turned it down to make much less. how is that running scared? they literally just signed to fight wilder but wilder lost to parker so the fight was scrapped. how is that running scared? wilder was the one who ran away over and over. you keep making excuses for wilders actions instead of just looking at the facts. if you dont want to fight someone you dont keep offering them huge career paydays. if you dont want to fight someone you dont sign to fight them, oh he lost to parker THE PLAN WORKED! wat? wilder was -600 to beat parker. they setup wilder to lose! Based on the fact they never made Wilder an offer he couldn't refuse and never fought because of it. All that a-side posturing and setting up roadblocks to age and shop wear Wilder shows they were never serious and knew AJ was a sitting duck for the Windmills right hand of doom. AJ ducked Ortiz, Wilder, Joyce, Parker 2, Zhang and Hrgovic. Whatever he coulda, shoulda woulda done is irrelevant cos he didn't. And for all that he got splattered senseless by the guy he should have ducked this time.

There was no need to match Wilder with Parker when the AJ fight was there to be made. Hearn and Joshua were running scared and always have been of Wilder just like they always been scared of a Parker rematch. Its all academic now cos there's nothing in it for Parker to face AJ again. Parker is champ in waiting, AJ is back of the queue and Wilder is shot. based on what? the facts are joshua offered wilder 12 million dollars when wilder was making 1 million a fight. how is that running scared? joshua literally offered wilder 100 million and wilder turned it down to make much less. how is that running scared? they literally just signed to fight wilder but wilder lost to parker so the fight was scrapped. how is that running scared? wilder was the one who ran away over and over. you keep making excuses for wilders actions instead of just looking at the facts. if you dont want to fight someone you dont keep offering them huge career paydays. if you dont want to fight someone you dont sign to fight them, oh he lost to parker THE PLAN WORKED! wat? wilder was -600 to beat parker. they setup wilder to lose!

cept thats just not true. it was wilder who didnt want the fight over and over, from turning down 12 million when he was making 1 million(his fans called his a lowball lol) to turning down 100 million, and then having a chance at the fight but losing to parker. false equivalency alert There was no need to match Wilder with Parker when the AJ fight was there to be made. Hearn and Joshua were running scared and always have been of Wilder just like they always been scared of a Parker rematch. Its all academic now cos there's nothing in it for Parker to face AJ again. Parker is champ in waiting, AJ is back of the queue and Wilder is shot.

Chances are....that the kid living in his moms basement Juuuust might be the clown, and not the world famous clean-rules world champions that you disparage. Just my guess. Neither of them were ever world champion. They were world titlists. The world championship went from Klitschko to Fury to Usyk.

Willow The Wisp The history books can dismiss Wilder's last two losses, but they can't dismiss the rest of his career. What did he really do? He got beaten at the top level every time. His best win is Ortiz - and I'm not sure how Ortiz makes your top 10 either. ​​​​​​ ​​​​​​

cept thats just not true. it was wilder who didnt want the fight over and over, from turning down 12 million when he was making 1 million(his fans called his a lowball lol) to turning down 100 million, and then having a chance at the fight but losing to parker. false equivalency alert Give it up. Your fighting a lost cause. Wilder > Joshua. The history books will dismiss Wilder's last two fights just as it does Louis' last two, Ali's last two, Tyson's last two, and Wladimir Klitschko's last two. Prime A.J. receives no such pardon for his disasters. Today's development = Wilder again inches out ahead of Joshua in the all-career assessment.

Total respect to Anthony Joshua! He had a fantastic career and did things that ordinary men, such as all the critics posting here, could never dream of in their easy jobs and hum-drum lives. There has never been a doubt in my mind that boxing science, weight and quality of opposition are things that would never get a seat at the table for Prime Wilder vs. Prime Joshua. I've said it for years; that A.J.'s makeup is built to order for Wilder. This era is finishing up now, with just 15 months to go; and while Fury and Wilder got to dance 3 times in an epic encounter, the most popular of them all, Anthony Joshua, never got to join in with the other two longstanding title claimants of the era; which is devastating for his legacy. But, What a great era it has been, though! Better than most. So the era now, as the end of it nears, looks somewhat like this: The current era is 2015 - 2025 1. Oleksandr Usyk 2. Tyson Fury 3. Deontay Wilder 4. Zhilei Zhang 5. Anthony Joshua 6. Daniel Dubois 7. Joseph Parker 8. Andy Ruiz Jr 9. Martin Bakole 10.Luis Ortiz 11.Wladimir Klitschko (old ver) 12.Agit Kabayel 13.Dillian Whyte 14.Joe Joyce 15.Jarrell Miller 16.Alexander Povetkin (old ver) 17.Derrick Chisora 18.Kubrat Pulev (old ver) 19.Filip Hrgovic 20.Charles Martin 21.Fabio Wardley 22.Carlos Takam 23.Johann Duhaupas 24.Robert Helenius 25.Jared Anderson 26.Hughie Fury 27.Otto Wallin 28.Bryant Jennings 29.Frank Sanchez 30.Bermane Stiverne 31.Efe Ajagba 32.Chris Arreola (old ver) 33.Michael Hunter 34.Frazier Clarke 35.Bakhodir Jalolov 36.Tony Yoka 37.Murat Gassiev 38.Aleksandr Ustinov 39.Lucas Browne 40.Dominic Breazeale 41.Gerald Washington 42.Jermain Franklin 43.Lenier Pero 44.David Haye 45.Vyacheslav Glazkov 46.Ruslan Chagaev (old) 47.Guido Vianello 48.Arslanbek Makhmudov 49.Johnathan Guidry 50.Francis Ngannou​

I don't want to hear it from either one of these clowns. They spent their whole career tapdancing around each other and now they're both used up and nobody cares. Chances are....that the kid living in his moms basement Juuuust might be the clown, and not the world famous clean-rules world champions that you disparage. Just my guess.

100% Wilder would have smoked Joshua in their primes. Thats not to say Wilder was the greatest fighter...but at his peak he had killer instinct and was a brutal finisher No-one ever got off the hook. On the other side...it has been proven to be a fact even at his peak that although AJ has decent punch power....that he cant deliver it once self doubt creeps in. Im not of the opinion that he has a cracked chin as such...but he has no recovery powers. He can take a shot...he just cant come back from one. And Wilder at his peak so often proved he only needed one.

cept thats just not true. it was wilder who didnt want the fight over and over, from turning down 12 million when he was making 1 million(his fans called his a lowball lol) to turning down 100 million, and then having a chance at the fight but losing to parker. false equivalency alert Don't give me that nonsense. Joshua turned down a big guarantee to fight Wilder too, because Hearn wanted Wilder to sign to Matchroom and fight bum ass Dillian Whyte first.

I don't want to hear it from either one of these clowns. They spent their whole career tapdancing around each other and now they're both used up and nobody cares. cept thats just not true. it was wilder who didnt want the fight over and over, from turning down 12 million when he was making 1 million(his fans called his a lowball lol) to turning down 100 million, and then having a chance at the fight but losing to parker. false equivalency alert

wilder didnt think so. turned down 100 million. woops