I am not familiar with him, that is why I ask.
He is a young and a big dude. He should be able to do against Canelo at least as good as Munguia did.
I am tired of these bigger dudes fighting scared to death like Zurdo against Bivol.
No one said he was good enough to jump in front of Benavidez, we said it was not a bad fight, much better than Berlanga. The fight was also smart from a business standpoint because Munguia is huge in Mexico which is why it was the most watched Canelo fight in Latin America.
It was a farce.
So u have a problem with Munguia fighting Canelo over Benavidez but u were defending Benavidez fighting Jesse Hart over Morrell. Gotcha
Defending who? I have a problem with any boxer that can choose their opponents, and fights the weakest they can find. If you read a post where I'm defending this benavidez vs hart fight, please direct me to it so I can fix it.
I rate Berlanga as a good C level fighter who has fought tomato cans for a long time. He is young and has good power though. He needs a top level boxing trainer to bring the best out in him.
I have a feeling there is going to be a massive upset on this card, but it won’t be Berlanga. He is good in the sense that he’s better than everyone he’s beat. That’s it. If Canelo can’t KO this kid early, then he’s off the decline and officially done.
Munguia is on a totally different level. He had been in with guys like Sadam Ali, Liam Smith, Kamil Szeremeta, Gabe Rosado, Sergiy Derevyanchenko, and John Ryder before the Canelo fight. Not exactly a murderer's row but those are solid guys who have been at the world level.
Berlanga's best opposition is several levels below that: Angulo, Rolls, Quigley, McCrory.
It will be a monumental upset if Berlanga were to beat Alvarez. A far, far more shocking surprise than if Munguia or Charlo or even Ryder had pulled it off.
So we agreed. He wasn't good enough to jump to front, and that's why he was chosen. All those hard fought fights vs Jacobs, ggg and adames you forgot a very important detail, I don't if it was by design or you genuinely forgot, deryvachenco was younger without the wear and tear of those fights.
No one said he was good enough to jump in front of Benavidez, we said it was not a bad fight, much better than Berlanga. The fight was also smart from a business standpoint because Munguia is huge in Mexico which is why it was the most watched Canelo fight in Latin America.
I had a lot of problems with munguia getting the chance over benavidez and Morrell jr. He got the attention because he wasn't good enough and beating a journeyman and a past his prime deryvachenco, with a lot of struggles I might add, doesn't qualify him as #1 contender.
So u have a problem with Munguia fighting Canelo over Benavidez but u were defending Benavidez fighting Jesse Hart over Morrell. Gotcha
Outside of Benavidez getting a shot (which has been beaten to death honestly), Munguia wasn’t all that bad. Barr minimum he was going to give fans a rousing effort. And he did despite being defensively poor.
Berlanga…I don’t know what he has to make it interesting. His power? He hasn’t stopped anybody nor come close aside from his last opponent, and it wasn’t a “wow, that kid has ‘it’!”
Berlanga is like Munguia but worse overall.
It’s like taking a car and exchanging its body frame for something more brittle (questionable chin), low to average RPM’s (punches per round), and not knowing how the engine’s going to perform when rev it up for the first time ON THE DAY OF THE RACE.
Nobody knows how Berlanga is going to perform once he sees the fight environment is a Canelo atmosphere where HE’S the star. Munguia at least passed the gut check.
And I didn’t think he was going to blow out Chenko like most did cause Chenko is a hard fighter to go in with. Sort of like Provodnikov back in his day.
Chenko gave GGG problems, Daniel Jacobs problems, Carlos Adames problems. Only guy to get by relatively by Chenko was, surprisingly, Jermall Charlo. And, as of a couple weeks ago, Christian Mbilli as apparently the wheels have fallen off the Chenko bus as his arm became incapacitated.
So we agreed. He wasn't good enough to jump to front, and that's why he was chosen. All those hard fought fights vs Jacobs, ggg and adames you forgot a very important detail, I don't if it was by design or you genuinely forgot, deryvachenco was younger without the wear and tear of those fights.
I had a lot of problems with munguia getting the chance over benavidez and Morrell jr. He got the attention because he wasn't good enough and beating a journeyman and a past his prime deryvachenco, with a lot of struggles I might add, doesn't qualify him as #1 contender.
Outside of Benavidez getting a shot (which has been beaten to death honestly), Munguia wasn’t all that bad. Bare minimum he was going to give fans a rousing effort. And he did despite being defensively poor.
Berlanga…I don’t know what he has to make it interesting. His power? He hasn’t stopped anybody nor come close aside from his last opponent, and it wasn’t a “wow, that kid has ‘it’!”
Berlanga is like Munguia but worse overall.
It’s like taking a car and exchanging its body frame for something more brittle (questionable chin), low to average RPM’s (punches per round), and not knowing how the engine’s going to perform when revved up for the first time ON THE DAY OF THE RACE.
Nobody knows how Berlanga is going to perform once he sees the fight environment in a Canelo atmosphere where HE (Berlanga) is the guy that’s supposed to be the guy everyone wants to see KO’D. Munguia at least passed the gut check. I could see Berlanga getting overwhelmed by the moment and doing something out of left field in frustration or mentally checking out a la Victor Ortiz.
And I didn’t think Munguia was going to blow out Chenko like most did cause Chenko is a hard fighter to go in with. Sort of like Provodnikov back in his day.
Chenko gave GGG problems, Daniel Jacobs problems, Carlos Adames problems. Only guy to get by relatively by Chenko was, surprisingly, Jermall Charlo. And, as of a couple weeks ago, Christian Mbilli as apparently the wheels have fallen off the Chenko bus as his arm became incapacitated.
Good is relative. He's good enough to beat guys like Demond Nicholson (a journeyman opponent for most of his career), Roamer Angulo and Jason Quigley.
He's also limited enough to struggle against journeymen and fringe contenders like Coceres and Rolls.
He's benefited from careful matchmaking and having the backing of powerful promoters throughout his career. He has no significant wins against legitimate contenders that were anywhere near their prime. I don't think he beats Benavidez, Morrell, Mbilli or a host of other fighters around 168.
The only reason he's deserving of the fight is because his promoter got him ranked #1 (jumping seven spots) by a sanctioning body, because of his heritage and because he's viewed as being a safe opponent for Canelo.
He's levels below Canelo and has no legitimate chance of a win barring Canelo suffering an injury or getting old overnight.
I personally didn’t have a problem with the Munguia getting a crack at Canelo, either.
The championship heart he showed in the Chenko fight and the stoppage over Ryder was good enough to call Canelo’s attention.
Berlanga…has…the big 17(?) win 1st round KO streak and then…….lukewarm performances in which he bit an opponent when frustrated…and just doesn’t look special or remarkable when the fights go the distance.
I had a lot of problems with munguia getting the chance over benavidez and Morrell jr. He got the attention because he wasn't good enough and beating a journeyman and a past his prime deryvachenco, with a lot of struggles I might add, doesn't qualify him as #1 contender.
I don’t think he’s as bad as ppl r trying to
make him but he’s very untested. I didn’t understand the hate for Munguia bc Munguia had wins against fighters who fought at a world class level esp Chenko who gave every elite fighter hell. Berlanga doesn’t have that but he had size and youth on his side which can go a long way against Canelo. Canelo has ALOT of wear and tear and always had stamina issues
I personally didn’t have a problem with the Munguia getting a crack at Canelo, either.
The championship heart he showed in the Chenko fight and the stoppage over Ryder was good enough to call Canelo’s attention.
Berlanga…has…the big 17(?) win 1st round KO streak and then…….lukewarm performances in which he bit an opponent when frustrated…and just doesn’t look special or remarkable when the fights go the distance.
Yes He is a good, solid pro with skills and power. That said, he has imo no chance of beating Canelo, who is superior to him in every way from what I have seen.
I am not familiar with him, that is why I ask.
He is a young and a big dude. He should be able to do against Canelo at least as good as Munguia did.
I am tired of these bigger dudes fighting scared to death like Zurdo against Bivol.
- - He's better than U, which of course damns him to faint praise.
I don’t think he’s as bad as ppl r trying to
make him but he’s very untested. I didn’t understand the hate for Munguia bc Munguia had wins against fighters who fought at a world class level esp Chenko who gave every elite fighter hell. Berlanga doesn’t have that but he had size and youth on his side which can go a long way against Canelo. Canelo has ALOT of wear and tear and always had stamina issues
Doesn't have world class skills. His last few fights they have tried to add more skills and now he thinks too much and he waits around. Many times he looks confused, at this point he should be reacting instead of thinking.
He will always have the punchers chance but Canelo's skills will get him through the fight.