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The undisputed champ said it would take $200 million to fight Benavidez -- more than five times Canelo's reported $35 million payout against munguia
That would be a literal waste of time. You can find them yourself, youâre asking for them as some form of weird semantics.
Kev this is BS. No one is engaging in semantics. You either have something or you don’t.
So you say they exist, you have links, but say I seem hell bent on arguing against facts because I asked you a question?
Weak response.
Post the links. Then let’s see.
That would be a literal waste of time. You can find them yourself, you’re asking for them as some form of weird semantics.
oh yeah like what? you just arent used to being right so im sure its a strange feeling. for me...its just tuesday
You are only wrong when: you open your mouth, not to take a breath, and/or post: Here are some of your better moment so to speak:
1. Trying to prove that Wilder fought different competition than other fighters in the division. Using relative measures like subjective ratings and alphabet soup lists of "Champions" to substantiate this ridiculous view. Reading through your posts one would think Ali and Wilder were contemporaries, just that Joshua replaced Ali fighting a similar level of competition. So while Joshua fought such incredible Ali like fighters... Wilder fought "other" fighters lol. Your justification? subjective rankings that have no gravitas except as a tool to lead casuals to believe we have multiple champions. Idiot.
2. your specialty? defacing men who are champions, but whom you decide are somehow paralyzed by fear. Men whom you would soil yourself in front of, hence, the need to use the intrawebs to disparage. Canelo is a perfect example. But you use the same pattern with other champions. Note: professional fighters are not "scared" and if they decide to avoid, duck a fight, it does not negate what they have accomplished. I bet you blame Canelo for the judges because they gave him the nod versus GGG.
3. Have you ever even watched fights? On tape? Or do you just parrot the ideations of the Alphabet organizations and their self serving rankings? Rhetorical question I mean I know the answer lol.
4. You say you are right? Lol... Your views amount to weak, misinformed propoganda courtesy of taking the alphabet soup views as objective truths... You make it appear that fighters like Immanuel Charr are Gods, next to fighters like Bermane Stiverne...That fighters like Whyte are just so much stronger than Louis Ortiz even though Ortiz was undefeated before fighting Wilder... Even if one has opinions about these fighters, nobody exxagerates their differences like you do... Even critics of Wilder would say he fought from the same talent pool as other heavyweights... But not you lol.
Most of the garbage you post is a combination of half truth, one side of the story and straight up lies.
You must be in a good mood as you are being charitable regarding this bag of fish entrails.
There are literally articles every year quoting Tank/Mayweather saying no/later/next year. I would link you to these articles but you seem hell bent on arguing against this fact and I don’t you would care if I showed you those articles. You’ve picked your side and you’re rolling with it.
So you say they exist, you have links, but say I seem hell bent on arguing against facts because I asked you a question?
Weak response.
Post the links. Then let’s see.
Did he say that for 7 years Kev or did he say it a couple times 7 years ago?
There are literally articles every year quoting Tank/Mayweather saying no/later/next year. I would link you to these articles but you seem hell bent on arguing against this fact and I don’t you would care if I showed you those articles. You’ve picked your side and you’re rolling with it.
Here's the stuff #1 contenders are made of :lol1:.......
The killers that led up to his 2019-2023 claim to fame -
J Love ( :dunno: )
R Gravil 2x ( :dunno: )
R Medina ( :dunno: )
S Mamajonov ( :dunno: )
D Douglin ( :dunno: )
F Ntetu ( :dunno: )
PJ Benson ( :dunno: )
C'mon, now :haha:
Yori Boy Campas would wreck these bums
The shlt that makes his fan(s) moist -
GVozdyk
DooDoo
Plant (his best w, UD12)
Beyond shot LeMeh
C'mon, now :haha:
Replace Benny's name with Nelo and who here is a fan :lol1: ?
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The undisputed champ said it would take $200 million to fight Benavidez -- more than five times Canelo's reported $35 million payout against munguia
I really want Canelo to fight Beni too. That said, its not about ducking. Its about two things. The first is strategy. The second is GREED. Canelo wants that TURKI MONEY. Casuals will never understand this. Canelo WILL fight Beni at 168. Just not when we want him too. He WILL also beat him quite easily. It will be shocking.
benavidez doesnt have what it takes to beat canelo... benevidez is not a slick boxer, doesnt have high IQ, etc... skinny bonny david will get smashed!!
We agreed. The one who has to decide doesn't, so the tag hangs over his head. Whatever we think is pointless unless he fights the guy.
I don't know about beating the crap, but I'd favor him. He needs to grow the balls first.
benavidez doesnt have what it takes to beat canelo... benevidez is not a slick boxer, doesnt have high IQ, etc... skinny bonny david will get smashed!!
he's smart!!! he knows that this is the fight everyone wants to see so he is positioning himself to get paid the max!!! and by the way, canelo will beat the crap out of benavidez.
I don't know about beating the crap, but I'd favor him. He needs to grow the balls first.
Talk about tumbleweeds :lol1:
Well, Benny passes eyetest. Nel o didn't have awesome resume when Floyd fought Nel o but you think of Nel o as a beast.
Bennys is no1 challenger, so that's why he will be a great win for nelo
he's smart!!! he knows that this is the fight everyone wants to see so he is positioning himself to get paid the max!!! and by the way, canelo will beat the crap out of benavidez.
this is hilarious. he knew loma didnt want to fight him so he didnt try? so then why did he try now??? trying to rewrite history i see. you dont go out in public saying "they are trying to make me fight loma!" if you want the fight. you say "i want to fight loma" he even ducked guys like alberto machado and tevin farmer. oh wait according to you its because they would have ducked him anyway! its the new excuse to explain away any ducking!
also tanks trainer even said loma didnt want the tank fight because of the money they offered him. so what did they offer him?
Davis coach, Calvin Ford, told ES News the collapse was money-related due to Loma not being the A-side.I wasnt shocked, because in his career he usually be the one who gets the money. It wasnt enough that hed want it."
seems likely they simply lowballed loma like they do to all of tanks opponents. lets break it down.
some of tanks recent splits
tank 81% to hector garcia 19%
tank 80% to rolly romero 20%
tank 80% to frank martin 20%
tank 66.5% to ryan garcia 33.5%
dont think offering loma 20 to 33.5 is going to get it done and that 33.5 split they offered garcia was generally seen as a huge concession by garcia and a bad deal. im sure tanks team was surprised they accepted it on top of all the weight draining measures tank put in place. normally that would kill the fight but garcia agreed for some reason. they arent going to get loma to accept a bad deal that's for sure. if you want a high level opponent you gotta pay them, especially a guy who just made 3.5 million in his last fight. loma is not going to accept 20 percent and probably not even 33.5 percent given his status, and also given how much tank is sure to make since tanks ppvs always range between 200-300k except the garcia fight who was his only big opponent which shows tank needs a big name to draw big numbers. if you want a fight you should act like ggg someone you hate. lets look at some of his splits to get fighters in the ring with him...
ggg 58.5% to jacobs 41.5%
ggg 57.5% to lemiuex 42.5%
ggg 55.5% to geale 44.5%
ggg 54% to macklin 46%
he also offered guys like quillin and saunders more than 40 percent of the purse to try and get them in the ring which they rejected.â
none of those guys "deserved" that much but ggg wanted the fight. now loma certainly "deserves" more than 33.5% but seeing as that is the highest amount tank has ever offered, its not really a surprise loma walked away. if tank offered something reasonable like 55-45 or even 60-40 and loma said no then yeah i think thats a duck, but since becoming a "big star" tank has never offered that so we shouldn't assume he has since all the evidence shows a history of lowballing and purse-plundering on his part. thats not going to work against a guy who makes 3 million a fight and has already had a long career. it might work against a young guy like garcia making his first big payday but loma knows the business.
you are the one talking about likelihood and probability so its likely tank didnt make loma a legit offer, just given the evidence of course. its possible loma would have ducked tank 5 years ago, just like its possible tank made loma a legit offer, not likely though. unlikely more like it :)
You’re babbling so I didn’t read this.
Tank negotiated the fight. Loma ducked, said he is coming back in 2025. This after Loma avoided Shakur to instead fight Kambosos.
Pattern is clear.
That certainly wasn’t what Tank and Mayweather were saying. Mayweather straight up said Tank wasn’t ready. For 7 years.
Did he say that for 7 years Kev or did he say it a couple times 7 years ago?
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The undisputed champ said it would take $200 million to fight Benavidez -- more than five times Canelo's reported $35 million payout against munguia
Boxing/MMA are like the only sports where the athletes can get away with doing this.
The funniest part was the WBC pressing Benavidez on what he’s going to do next, AFTER he moved up to 175. Like “look we’re doing our job see? He left, he moved up, but we were totally going to force Canelo to fight him if he stayed at 168. Totally. We’re not corrupt at all.”
Tank obviously knew the deal. Soon as he started to negotiate this would likely have happened.
That certainly wasn’t what Tank and Mayweather were saying. Mayweather straight up said Tank wasn’t ready. For 7 years.