Beating Alvarez Makes T-Bud Greater Than Manny Paq Maybe As Great Mayweather

Oleksandr Uysk's wins over Tyson Fury and Anthony Joshua 'Are more impressive feats of achievement, than any win on Terrence Crawford's resume. And in my opinion, they would still remain as greater wins even if? Terrence Crawford was to beat Canelo Alvarez at 168 pounds'. So what if he is jumping two weight classes, big deal 'The jump from Cruiserweight, into the open class Heavyweight Division. Is the most formidable competitive challenge in the entire combat sports world, from a physiological perspective'. By how much do all you guys estimate, Canelo Alvarez is going to out weigh Terrence Crawford by? 5 to 10 pounds on fight night? 15 pounds at most? I personally think there would be a chance of Crawford and Alvarez weighing within 10 pounds of each other. We are living in the boxing era, where many fighters in the lower weight classes weight drain themselves in order to avoid fighting at a more natural fighting weight. Terrence Crawford is one of those fighters, who has historically weight drains himself to be the big man on fight night 'So in all honesty, I will keep things in perspective'. Why do people behave like that is unprecedented in the sport of boxing? Within the Heavyweight Division, there have been opponents with a weight differential between them which has to be counted in stones, never mind a few pounds. But still people seem to be abit too much impressed, when a fighter in the lower weight classes decides to not weight drain themselves and fight at a more natural weight. Note: Terrence Crawford does not have to body build, and pump himself up to 168 pounds and above 'Certain folk within the boxing community, need to keep things into perspective. Terrence Crawford fighting Canelo Alvarez, is a great challenge but? It is not in the same sphere of difficulty, in my opinion as Evander Holyfield moving up into the Heavyweight Division and fighting Riddick Bowe, David Haye fighting Nikola Valuev who out weighed him by 7 stone, or Oleksandr Uysk fight Tyson Fury for the Undisputed Heavyweight titles. Mike Tyson was routinely beating opponent's, who out weighed him and had Heavyweight dimension's over him. 7th November 2009 'David Haye fought Nikola Valuev, in a fight were he was being out weighed by 7 stone. Haye weighed in at 218 pounds, vs Valuev 315 pounds. The total the weight differential in pounds between the two fighters was 98 pounds. The fight was billed as David vs Goliath'. David Haye won the fight via majority decision 'Becoming only the second man in history, to achieve such a feat. At that point in time Evander Holyfield was only other sentient being in mankind's history, who had moved up from the Cruiserweight Division to win a World Heavyweight title'.​ The list goes on, there are many more fighters that have taken in more formidable challenges 'Then the potential fight between Terrence Crawford and Canelo Alvarez'. To conclude: Terrence Crawford vs Canelo Alvarez is a great fight, and challenge mainly for Crawford 'That is the universal perspective which is surrounding this fight'. But I believe that certain folk in the boxing community, who ether don't know much or value boxing history. They completely overrate, modern day lower class fighters 'Since the day before weigh in rule started to be used in boxing, this has made it easier for fighters to move up and down the weight classes'. Basically it has made it easier for them, to create create a competitive mirage 'I.E Tony Bellew as a amatuer boxer, fought high up as a Super Heavyweight. But when he turned professional he fought for a long time in his career, in the 175 pound Light Heavyweight Divisions'. When Tony Bellew moved up into the Cruiserweight Divisons, he was just fighting closer to his more natural fighting weight 'Bellew is pretty much a Heavyweight fighter, that was clear near the latter part of his career'. Terrence Crawford vs Canelo Alvarez 'Is a great fight, and challenge for Crawford'. But from a pure physiologically perspective, it is nowhere near the level of Oleksandr Uysk fighting Tyson Fury etc.

jumping two weight classes to 168 from 154 and beating Alvarez would be the single greatest victory in the HISTORY of the sport of boxing:cool: I’d consider it the the greatest win i’ll ever witness in my boxing fan years. But it won’t happen..

I don't think so, resume isn't strong enough in comparison to theirs. But, would be an astronomic win though. Damn how he get banned?

Yet you think he’d get credit for this win. Historically speaking he would. He’d have been lineal middleweight champion. I don’t believe anyone who turned pro at 130 or below has ever achieved that.

Beating Canelo at 168 is a huge win and is probably better than any single win of Floyd or Manny, but TCs resume in overall class is not close to Floyd or Manny, a guy can collect as many belts as he likes but the guys he beat to get those belts is what carries the big stick, TCs big stick opponents are very scarce, Spence and Postal level doesn't match the HOFs fighters May and Manny beat, not close at all.

Do people not realize that he has zero chance at winning a decision vs Canelo, and you know he isn't stopping him. How exactly do people see a Bud victory here?They think he will do to Canelo what he did to Spence. Nah Alvarez is better defensively than Errol if T-Bud beats Alvarez, it’d be a decision 8-4/9-5 Floyd and Bivol did cleaner jobs as they’re defensively savvy with better jabs T-Bud chances due to Alvarez being 5 ft 7.5 with a 70.5 inch reach Alvarez a big boi who hits hard but it is not touch them knock them out kind of power T-bud appears to be an iron chin hero

The legacy would be interesting. There is one thing that would put a damper on the fanfare though: Both men are past prime. Bud would get some points for being 37 to canelo's 34, but if it had happened when Bud was say, 30 to Canelo being 27, it would get more consideration of being a great feat. Even so, it's a big IF Crawford can beat Alvarez, which I doubt.

Do people not realize that he has zero chance at winning a decision vs Canelo, and you know he isn't stopping him. How exactly do people see a Bud victory here? They think he will do to Canelo what he did to Spence.

Do people not realize that he has zero chance at winning a decision vs Canelo, and you know he isn't stopping him. How exactly do people see a Bud victory here?

He’s TBE……

If a cw lessens a win, it lessens it for all. Period. Manny didn’t fight Cotto at 147. Therefore the win is lessened. No more to discuss. You need to try comprehend people better. Of course a CW puts a asterix against a win einstein, my God am I having to point this out to you? Of course pac using a CW against cotto lessens win, but as it's pac s 8th weight class if he didn't skip a division, (floyd needed a cw in only his 5th weight class) and pac was willing to rematch cotto, and pac was going to fight another 10 years people will be more lenient, sorry that's life. Bud beating Nel o is greater than any floyd win, with Floyd's cw and all, and bud stepping up 3 divisions as underdog, in his 6th weight class, in nelos best weight class, yet still no cw for bud. It's not even close lol I'm having to hold your ✋ and teach each you this. Unbelievable.

Of course it lessens win a bit. Especially if your putting Floyd's cw win against Nel o up against a bud win over Nel o stepping up 3 divisions. And at least pac had no issue reaching cotton at 147,whilst floyd wanted no more of nelo If a cw lessens a win, it lessens it for all. Period. Manny didn’t fight Cotto at 147. Therefore the win is lessened. No more to discuss.

No it hasn’t. Lmfao. Cotto was a cw. That according to you lessens the win. Thurman. Hahahahaha Of course it lessens win a bit. Especially if your putting Floyd's cw win against Nel o up against a bud win over Nel o stepping up 3 divisions. And at least pac had no issue reaching cotton at 147,whilst floyd wanted no more of nelo. is Floyd's best win so poor you gotta do floyd favours every chance?

I don't know what you are going on about half the time. Bud beating Nel o is better than any floyd win, that's been established. But not better than pac s best win. The cotto win, the thurman win etc etc is hard to top No it hasn’t. Lmfao. Cotto was a cw. That according to you lessens the win. Thurman. Hahahahaha

I applied your idiotic logic to Manny. Don’t try and hide it. I disagree. If he does, I think the debate is does it put him above Manny. Imo no. I don't know what you are going on about half the time. Bud beating Nel o is better than any floyd win, that's been established. But not better than pac s best win. The cotto win, the thurman win etc etc is hard to top

I’m being sarcastic. Berlanga isn’t laying a finger on him. But if it happened, it’d probably be the first time in my life I would be both laughing, crying, and be in utter disbelief all at the same time. I’m a Puerto Rican that absolutely despises Berlanga. If I happened to run into him in a public space, I wouldn’t even ask for a picture. Margarito on the other hand… I was in disbelief just reading your post. So I have to ask.

You go off on a tangent. I said bud beating Nel o is better than any floyd win, hands down. But just because bud beating Nel o is better than any floyd win don't necessarily make him greater. But we know buds not beating nelo, so no need to worry. I applied your idiotic logic to Manny. Don’t try and hide it. I disagree. If he does, I think the debate is does it put him above Manny. Imo no.

But again, this thread is about Bud being better than Floyd and Manny should he beat Canelo. You haven’t made any argument to support that. Just whining about Floyd because you’re still upset he beat Manny so easily. He beat Canelo easier than Manny. I think that is because beating Canelo makes Bud better than Manny but not Floyd. You go off on a tangent. I said bud beating Nel o is better than any floyd win, hands down. But just because bud beating Nel o is better than any floyd win don't necessarily make him greater. But we know buds not beating nelo, so no need to worry.

Yeah Floyd would’ve just picked him off had they fought around 2013/14. Sergio was never really the same after the 12th round vs Chavez where he injured his knee. Yet you think he’d get credit for this win.

If bud beats Nelo it is better than any floyd win by far. Doesn't necessarily make him greater though. That's why I want bud to win title at 154, and 160.