Is Parker ( 35-2 ) the era's 3rd beat heavyweight?

Do you think there would be a different result if say AJ and Wilder fought 6 years ago than if they fought now ? You never step in the same river twice. The river has changed and your notv the same man. Somebody knows their presocratics! Heraclitus (sp?). I do not want to sound ridiculous but you have no idea how much pleasure it gives me to see at least a few other members who are conversant on the topic of philosophy... enough to use such an analogy as you have. Added bonus because the presocratics tend to be overshadowed by Socrates... Although Pythagoras is getting his due these days.

They've met though, and we got our results. Do you think there would be a different result if say AJ and Wilder fought 6 years ago than if they fought now ? You never step in the same river twice. The river has changed and your notv the same man.

Zhang is a more interesting and dangerous opponent. no disrespect towards JP.

If Hearn ever grew a pair and rematched his prize heifer AJ with the stud bull that is Parker, we'd see who comes out on top. I'd pick the younger bull over the cash cow. Wishful thinking as we all know Hearns nuts are tucked up in his belly, higher than Furys shorts and AJ has been hiding behind Hearns skirt since Fat Andy had his way with him. They've met though, and we got our results.

If Hearn ever grew a pair and rematched his prize heifer AJ with the stud bull that is Parker, we'd see who comes out on top. I'd pick the younger bull over the cash cow. Wishful thinking as we all know Hearns nuts are tucked up in his belly, higher than Furys shorts and AJ has been hiding behind Hearns skirt since Fat Andy had his way with him.

1. Mr. Fury 2. Mr. Usyk 3. Mr. Wilder (prime, not the clone of last 2 fights) 4. Mr. Joshua 5. Dr. Steelhammer (old version) 6. Mr. Zhang 7. Mr. Ortiz 8. Mr. Ruiz 9. Mr. Parker 10. Mr. Chisora/Mr. B-Sample Nash out

I would put him at 4th, behind Fury.

Big love for Joseph Parker here! Big, big love. I won't knock it, as JP is a true warrior and CERTAINLY one of the best of his era (ranked between 5th and 8th). This era has an entire top shelf of big boys who are (or were) better than anyone Vitali Klitschko ever beat. So what JP has done is pretty amazing. But seriously: Wins over Botha, Minto, Saglam, Tupou, Meehan, Takam, Haumono, Dimitrenko, Cojanu, Hughie Fury, Leapai, Fa, Chisora and Kean; and close and controversial judges nods over Ruiz, Chisora, and Zhang; and a boring nod over a very used up and Ancient Wilder; and clear cut losses to Joshua, Whyte and Joyce make an excellent resume; but these simply do not push Parker up to the level of Usyk, Fury, Joshua, prime Wilder. He remains in the same (highly respectable) level pool alongside Zhilei Zhang, Andy Ruiz Jr, Luis Ortiz, Daniel Dubois, Wladimir Klitschko (old ver), Dillian Whyte, Joe Joyce, Alexander Povetkin (old ver) and Agit Kabayel inside this 2015 - 2025 era. Giving JP anything more that that requires a slight departure from fact and reason. But.....his prime career is still underway and there are still fights to come. Parker's biggest asset seems to be that he has gained wisdom and experience... Surely we should look for him to maybe have a historical last hurrah under certain possible conditions. The trend for Parker is up. This makes him capable at this point, time will tell!

Parker shut out Wilder. Went the distance and never got hurt v Joshua only to get jobbed by a ref and Fury made him his BFF so he'd never have to fight him. The Mighty Oilskin is the only one young enough and left standing from the past decade capable of clearing out the division and reunifying undisputed and ending Usyk's reign. The 3 Brokeback 'mountains' of the era had Uncle Al, Fisheyes and Fast Eddie pimping their asses. That's the only reason they dominated the narrative and held the belts hostage. Parker has earnt every shot at any title and the respect of his peers. The dude is a rematch win with AJ from ending his myth having done the same to Wilder. When all is said and done Parker could be 2nd behind Usyk as best of his era. Big love for Joseph Parker here! Big, big love. I won't knock it, as JP is a true warrior and CERTAINLY one of the best of his era (ranked between 5th and 8th). This era has an entire top shelf of big boys who are (or were) better than anyone Vitali Klitschko ever beat. So what JP has done is pretty amazing. But seriously: Wins over Botha, Minto, Saglam, Tupou, Meehan, Takam, Haumono, Dimitrenko, Cojanu, Hughie Fury, Leapai, Fa, Chisora and Kean; and close and controversial judges nods over Ruiz, Chisora, and Zhang; and a boring nod over a very used up and Ancient Wilder; and clear cut losses to Joshua, Whyte and Joyce make an excellent resume; but these simply do not push Parker up to the level of Usyk, Fury, Joshua, prime Wilder. He remains in the same (highly respectable) level pool alongside Zhilei Zhang, Andy Ruiz Jr, Luis Ortiz, Daniel Dubois, Wladimir Klitschko (old ver), Dillian Whyte, Joe Joyce, Alexander Povetkin (old ver) and Agit Kabayel inside this 2015 - 2025 era. Giving JP anything more that that requires a slight departure from fact and reason. But.....his prime career is still underway and there are still fights to come.

Joseph Parker is definitively in the debate for 'Top 5'. But? In reality, even though he has beaten Deontay Wilder 'Overall I would not rate him above Wilder in the overall rankings of this boxing era. So the highest ranking anybody can give Parker is between 5-7'.. Deontay Wilder was the WBC World Heavyweight Champion, and made 10 successful defenses of his titles 'Oleksandr Uysk has recently just beaten Tyson Fury. But Wilder is still the fighter in my opinion, who has inflicted the most overall damage upon Fury and pushed him above and beyond his limits'. Your usual blah blah blah.. Hrgovic would also beats the bums Wilder beat for WBC belt.

He is N.4. after Usyk, Fury, Joshua.

Parker shut out Wilder. Went the distance and never got hurt v Joshua only to get jobbed by a ref and Fury made him his BFF so he'd never have to fight him. The Mighty Oilskin is the only one young enough and left standing from the past decade capable of clearing out the division and reunifying undisputed and ending Usyk's reign. The 3 Brokeback 'mountains' of the era had Uncle Al, Fisheyes and Fast Eddie pimping their asses. That's the only reason they dominated the narrative and held the belts hostage. Parker has earnt every shot at any title and the respect of his peers. The dude is a rematch win with AJ from ending his myth having done the same to Wilder. When all is said and done Parker could be 2nd behind Usyk as best of his era.

parker was shoeshining and you're knob shining that's how you boyz like it down under ye? Nah bro...you northern barbarians with your weirding ways tried to make us like that but we said You do You. We're good! Zhang could barely raise his hands or throw a punch in the championship rounds. He may as well have had his hands in his shorts shining his own knob. Oilskin made Big Wang look silly.

Joseph Parker is definitively in the debate for 'Top 5'. But? In reality, even though he has beaten Deontay Wilder 'Overall I would not rate him above Wilder in the overall rankings of this boxing era. So the highest ranking anybody can give Parker is between 5-7'.. Deontay Wilder was the WBC World Heavyweight Champion, and made 10 successful defenses of his titles 'Oleksandr Uysk has recently just beaten Tyson Fury. But Wilder is still the fighter in my opinion, who has inflicted the most overall damage upon Fury and pushed him above and beyond his limits'. There has been too much of a period in Parker's career, were he was just treading water 'While the three Heavyweight mountains of this era, Tyson Fury, Deontay Wilder and Anthony Joshua. Those three fighters were all producing the major scenes to this boxing era, as I have stated before? If this boxing era, was made into a movie 'Then Tyson Fury, Deontay Wilder and Anthony Joshua would be cast as the main characters'. Joseph Parker no matter how much certain folk try to claim 'He has not been one of the main characters of this era, he was beaten easily by Anthony Joshua when he was undefeated and the WBO World Champion. When you check his resume as a Champion, his defenses of the titles were extremely uninspiring 'Parker never produced a great performance as a Champion. Tyson Fury, Deontay Wilder and Anthony Joshua when they were Champions all had the ability to produce good to great performances'. Where has Joseph Parker been for the majority of this boxing era? Certain people in the boxing community, are speaking like Joseph Parker was some sort of threat at top level throughout all of these years. When if we are all honesty, that has never at any point been the universal perception that has was associated with Parker. We all know where Tyson Fury, Deontay Wilder and Anthony Joshua have been 'Those were the fighters producing the scenes, creating the story lines within this boxing era'. Parker in comparison, has been a solid fighter 'With the ability to survive vs Top level fighters. I use the word survive, because nobody can say that he pushed all of his opponents beyond the limit. At least with Derek Chisora, whether he won or lost he was pushing his opponent's 95% of the time to their limits and beyond'. Joseph Parker has not been that type of fighter or threat in the Heavyweight Division 'So lets all keep things in perceptive'. Nobody is intimidated or afraid of Joseph Parker 'Parker is a solid fighter, and in some ways opportunistically has achieved some top wins. But in my opinion he is not cast as one of the main characters in this boxing era'. Note: I understand if people don't like Tyson Fury, Deontay Wilder or Anthony Joshua 'But the facts of boxing history are, is that they have been the main characters of this boxing era. They are the three Heavyweight mountains, every single person in the game knows this to be true'. Joseph Parker has achieved some solid enough wins of late, great 'But so what. Where has Parker been for the majority of this boxing era?'. To conclude: If Anthony Joshua is able to beat Daniel Dubois 'Then I would say that rematches against primarily Andy Ruiz Junior and then Joseph Parker are good fights. I would preferable like to see Ruiz Junior vs Joshua III, because there is a intriguing theme between the fighters'. There is actually no real hardcore cinematic story line between Anthony Joshua and Joseph Parker 'Because Joshua beat Parker, without even getting out of second gear. The fight was quite easy, from a boxing perceptive skill for skill'. I used to play some game called 'Grand Theft Auto'. I was not really big on games, and concerned that much with actually completing the game. Sometimes I would come home from school, and just decide to play this game 'With the intention of just brutalizing those back ground characters. Purely out of spite'. Joseph Parker vs Anthony Joshua 'As a match up is quite a similar dynamic. Anthony Joshua is one of the main characters of this boxing era, and Joseph Parker is not' etc. Excellent post. This is the true perception, and is how history will remember the best of this era. You have my full endorsement here PRINCEKOOL. Basic Fans are so easily distracted by current events and the support of their "Faves". Parker is on the tier directly below that of Fury, Usyk, Joshua and Wilder. Not a complicated thing to understand why that is.

Joseph Parker is definitively in the debate for 'Top 5'. But? In reality, even though he has beaten Deontay Wilder 'Overall I would not rate him above Wilder in the overall rankings of this boxing era. So the highest ranking anybody can give Parker is between 5-7'.. Deontay Wilder was the WBC World Heavyweight Champion, and made 10 successful defenses of his titles 'Oleksandr Uysk has recently just beaten Tyson Fury. But Wilder is still the fighter in my opinion, who has inflicted the most overall damage upon Fury and pushed him above and beyond his limits'. There has been too much of a period in Parker's career, were he was just treading water 'While the three Heavyweight mountains of this era, Tyson Fury, Deontay Wilder and Anthony Joshua. Those three fighters were all producing the major scenes to this boxing era, as I have stated before? If this boxing era, was made into a movie 'Then Tyson Fury, Deontay Wilder and Anthony Joshua would be cast as the main characters'. Joseph Parker no matter how much certain folk try to claim 'He has not been one of the main characters of this era, he was beaten easily by Anthony Joshua when he was undefeated and the WBO World Champion. When you check his resume as a Champion, his defenses of the titles were extremely uninspiring 'Parker never produced a great performance as a Champion. Tyson Fury, Deontay Wilder and Anthony Joshua when they were Champions all had the ability to produce good to great performances'. Where has Joseph Parker been for the majority of this boxing era? Certain people in the boxing community, are speaking like Joseph Parker was some sort of threat at top level throughout all of these years. When if we are all honesty, that has never at any point been the universal perception that has was associated with Parker. We all know where Tyson Fury, Deontay Wilder and Anthony Joshua have been 'Those were the fighters producing the scenes, creating the story lines within this boxing era'. Parker in comparison, has been a solid fighter 'With the ability to survive vs Top level fighters. I use the word survive, because nobody can say that he pushed all of his opponents beyond the limit. At least with Derek Chisora, whether he won or lost he was pushing his opponent's 95% of the time to their limits and beyond'. Joseph Parker has not been that type of fighter or threat in the Heavyweight Division 'So lets all keep things in perceptive'. Nobody is intimidated or afraid of Joseph Parker 'Parker is a solid fighter, and in some ways opportunistically has achieved some top wins. But in my opinion he is not cast as one of the main characters in this boxing era'. Note: I understand if people don't like Tyson Fury, Deontay Wilder or Anthony Joshua 'But the facts of boxing history are, is that they have been the main characters of this boxing era. They are the three Heavyweight mountains, every single person in the game knows this to be true'. Joseph Parker has achieved some solid enough wins of late, great 'But so what. Where has Parker been for the majority of this boxing era?'. To conclude: If Anthony Joshua is able to beat Daniel Dubois 'Then I would say that rematches against primarily Andy Ruiz Junior and then Joseph Parker are good fights. I would preferable like to see Ruiz Junior vs Joshua III, because there is a intriguing theme between the fighters'. There is actually no real hardcore cinematic story line between Anthony Joshua and Joseph Parker 'Because Joshua beat Parker, without even getting out of second gear. The fight was quite easy, from a boxing perceptive skill for skill'. I used to play some game called 'Grand Theft Auto'. I was not really big on games, and concerned that much with actually completing the game. Sometimes I would come home from school, and just decide to play this game 'With the intention of just brutalizing those back ground characters. Purely out of spite'. Joseph Parker vs Anthony Joshua 'As a match up is quite a similar dynamic. Anthony Joshua is one of the main characters of this boxing era, and Joseph Parker is not' etc.

Premature discussion in general- but right now Usyk, AJ, and Fury have the top 3 locked. Parker is on a nice run right now though, no doubt.

Put him in with Agit Kabayel and let's just see how real these top 4 of his era perceptions really are. Honestly, 7 from this era, Usyk, Fury, Joshua, Wilder, Ruiz, Zhang and Ortiz were better heavyweights overall. But that isn't criticism; it's praise.

Parker out pointed him, outlasted him and outboxed him. Oilskin 2 slick 4 da ol Chinaman!!! Outlasted??? Outboxed?? Dude was almost KOd every time he was hit. He literally ran for his life.

Parker out pointed him, outlasted him and outboxed him. Oilskin 2 slick 4 da ol Chinaman!!! parker was shoeshining and you're knob shining that's how you boyz like it down under ye?

An argument for 4th sounds reasonable