How do you think David Tua would fare against today's top heavyweight boxers? I feel he would find quite a bit of success especially he had selective management like we see in modern boxing. So how would he do against; Usyk, Fury, Joshua, Wilder, Zhang, Joyce, Dubois, Hrgovic, Parker, Anderson, Kabayal, etc.?
Styles make fights.
Tua is a stylistic nightmare for Usyk, people will act like Usyk would fight like Ali, Bob and weave and make Tua miss but the reality is that is not Usyk's style at all, he wouldn't be able to help himself but mix it up with Tua and he would get badly hurt. Tua can match his workrate, match his handspeed, won't get tired, wont be hurt by Usyk's punches, he's just all wrong for Usyk who doesn't have a dramatic height advantage over Tua either.
AJ and Fury would have a solid shout of being able to do something similar to what Lewis did because they are very tall backfoot boxers which is the style Lewis used, but Tua has a solid punchers chance vs both.
I read an article where Tua said Lewis hurt him in the first round and he said he couldn't do anything after but survive.
He definitely can be outboxed by the top guys in the division now. Of course, he had that left hook which is essentially a puncher's chance against anyone.
Yep, Tua never mentioned the injury because he didn't want to make excuses but his team stated there was a rib injury suffered during sparring in camp and it never fully healed. Lewis cracked him early in the same spot and, most likely, altered the nature of the contest.
I believe that David Tua would beat most of the top level Heavyweights 'Overall Tua was a more destructive and dangerous fighter than Wilder offensively, superior endurance and durability. If Deontay Wilder became a WBC World Heavyweight Champion, mainly relying on his single punch power alone, then David Tua can for sure in my opinion beat many top level Heavyweights in today's modern era'.
Only really Tyson Fury, Anthony Joshua and Oleksandr Uysk should maybe be made favourite's against him 'I think David Tua would be stylistically a difficult fight for Uysk, as Tua has the specific attributes and style of fighting to apply serious pressure on Uysk'.
Tyson Fury's innately clumsiness, tendency to make technical mistakes and produce unforce error's 'Also makes the fight vs David Tua a potentially extremely difficult fight'.
If there is one fighter who I would back to beat David Tua out of all modern era Heavyweights 'That fighter would be Anthony Joshua. Joshua is the only current active Heavyweight who is a double jeopardy threat, meaning? Anthony Joshua is not only one of the most component and proven pure boxers at Heavyweight, he is also rated as one of the most proven power punchers in the Division 'No other Heavyweight fighter can claim simultaneously that they are that level of threat, only Anthony Joshua'.
Note: Deontay Wilder was fortunate that he appeared within the Heavyweight Division in this modern era 'Wilder would of found it extremely difficult in past Heavyweight era's to become a WBC World Heavyweight Champion, then make 10 defenses of that title mainly relying predominately upon his single punch power'.
David Tua had power, durability, endurance, and fundamentally he was quite a solid boxer 'That still was not enough for him to win a World title, and achieve multiple title defenses. That statistics pretty much describes the difference in Heavyweight boxing era's, and what was required to be a top level Heavyweight and then to stay at that level'.
David Tua on a fight by fight basis, has a great resume 'His resume is most likely better than Deontay Wilder's and not far off Tyson Fury's in terms of calibre. Overall I believe he would of been a extremely dangerous Heavyweight within this modern era. There are not many Heavyweights that I would back to beat him for sure, only the fighters that I have spoken about in this thread' etc.
I like Tua but he lost to most of the top guys he faced. Lewis, Byrd, Ibeabuchi and on. He beat a green Ruiz, Rahman, Maskaev, past it Moorer. But there is a class above that and he couldn't find the mark with his short stature punches.
Wilder's long height and reach allowed him to set up his power punches in this era in a way that I don't see Tua delivering.
I believe that David Tua would beat most of the top level Heavyweights 'Overall Tua was a more destructive and dangerous fighter than Wilder offensively, superior endurance and durability. If Deontay Wilder became a WBC World Heavyweight Champion, mainly relying on his single punch power alone, then David Tua can for sure in my opinion beat many top level Heavyweights in today's modern era'.
Only really Tyson Fury, Anthony Joshua and Oleksandr Uysk should maybe be made favourite's against him 'I think David Tua would be stylistically a difficult fight for Uysk, as Tua has the specific attributes and style of fighting to apply serious pressure on Uysk'.
Tyson Fury's innately clumsiness, tendency to make technical mistakes and produce unforce error's 'Also makes the fight vs David Tua a potentially extremely difficult fight'.
If there is one fighter who I would back to beat David Tua out of all modern era Heavyweights 'That fighter would be Anthony Joshua. Joshua is the only current active Heavyweight who is a double jeopardy threat, meaning? Anthony Joshua is not only one of the most component and proven pure boxers at Heavyweight, he is also rated as one of the most proven power punchers in the Division 'No other Heavyweight fighter can claim simultaneously that they are that level of threat, only Anthony Joshua'.
Note: Deontay Wilder was fortunate that he appeared within the Heavyweight Division in this modern era 'Wilder would of found it extremely difficult in past Heavyweight era's to become a WBC World Heavyweight Champion, then make 10 defenses of that title mainly relying predominately upon his single punch power'.
David Tua had power, durability, endurance, and fundamentally he was quite a solid boxer 'That still was not enough for him to win a World title, and achieve multiple title defenses. That statistics pretty much describes the difference in Heavyweight boxing era's, and what was required to be a top level Heavyweight and then to stay at that level'.
David Tua on a fight by fight basis, has a great resume 'His resume is most likely better than Deontay Wilder's and not far off Tyson Fury's in terms of calibre. Overall I believe he would of been a extremely dangerous Heavyweight within this modern era. There are not many Heavyweights that I would back to beat him for sure, only the fighters that I have spoken about in this thread' etc.
Tua was shut out of a title fight in his prime years and got one shot against Lewis for the lineal belt and was too heavyset and immobile to trouble Lewis who boxed Tua similar to a sparring partner.
If Tua got his shot against a weak champion such as Stiverne he would have blown him out and strung together defenses similar to Wilder if he was matched softly like Wilder was less Ortiz and Fury.
Tua beat Maskaev, Rahman, Izon and a few other opponents who were all tougher than the typical Wilder challenger. Even his fight against the bat s&^t crazy Ibeabuchi I thought he did enough for the win but this was another opponent tougher than any Wilder opponent less probably Fury.
I like his odds against Joshua, Ruiz, Parker, and Wilder but those are still 50/50 fights. I don't think he can get inside to do enough damage on Fury, Zhang, or outbox Usyk.
I think Fury keeps him at range too much, takes a wide UD. Usyk is a bad style match-up for him like Byrd was, tricky southpaw, moves a lot. Tua could beat everybody else though, potentially. He was better than Ruiz in every way so could beat AJ and Parker. I think he'd duck under Wilder's shots and left hook him early.
That's based on Tua at his very best though. He could be inconsistent and so would have subpar performances and maybe losses to guys he should beat if he lived through the current era.
How do you think David Tua would fare against today's top heavyweight boxers? I feel he would find quite a bit of success especially he had selective management like we see in modern boxing. So how would he do against; Usyk, Fury, Joshua, Wilder, Zhang, Joyce, Dubois, Hrgovic, Parker, Anderson, Kabayal, etc.?
- - Potentially Tua does well in any era and capable of dominating the smaller heavy eras. His problem was that he needed better management and trainers not that he had bad ones. The team around a fighter is as important as the fighter.
I really didn't. I did not see David Tua fight at any point in his career. I have watched his highlights and a few of his short fights, but I haven't delved any deeper than that. still have to watch his Lennox and Byrd losses. I didn't get into boxing until the Klitschko era. So you can bust my balls for being born in the 90's, but I made this post asking for the opinions of people that know more than I do otherwise I wouldn't post/lurk here.
Respect for honesty, and placing your desire to keep learning and adding OVER some false pride, pretending "expert" BS, as most posters here do.
Refreshing.
Total Respect.
I think Tua would do well but he wouldn't dominate. He could be outboxed but, at his best, he was very aggressive and hit hard. I don't really remember the Byrd fight but I recall he suffered a bad rib injury training for the Lewis fight and he was noticeably lethargic in that bout. Later in his career he seemed to lack vigor and I believe his weight was an issue.
Guys who have destructive power always have a resume of highlight reel KOs and sometimes we overrate them and forget their limitations.
I really didn't. I did not see David Tua fight at any point in his career. I have watched his highlights and a few of his short fights, but I haven't delved any deeper than that. still have to watch his Lennox and Byrd losses. I didn't get into boxing until the Klitschko era. So you can bust my balls for being born in the 90's, but I made this post asking for the opinions of people that know more than I do otherwise I wouldn't post/lurk here.
Not trying to Bust Balls... well, busting balls in a New York City kind of affectionate way lol. Heres the thing. When you were born gives you tremendous understanding of social media and all... You can go to Youtube and watch fights... Highlight reels are not very reliable. There is no shame in having not looked at stuff, it is how we all learn. I mean literally watching a fight, having a sense of what to look for, and forming an educated opinion.
I would seriously recommend you watch Ike Ibeabuchi and the Lennox lewis fights with Tua. You will get a sense of his range. The Rahman fight is good also, but hey! surely you do not want to be watching forever! If you watch one of these, my personal preferences are in the numerical order...Which along with subway fare will get you on the subway!
Take this as gratuitous but may I suggest the following? Look at skills a fighter shows in the ring, how they set up, their footwork, their distance and timing, what punches they throw, if they are defensively responsible...
People often compare Tua to Tyson which again, (subway fare lol) imo is a ridiculous comparison. Tyson could enter faster, (Tua is a plodder), had two hands, either of which he could catch you with, had incredible set up and head movement... Sometimes a fighter pulls it off... Tua did well for having only a left hook to speak of. But defensively responsible fighters should be able to avoid a one punch fighter.
You really do not see his point? have you watched Tua fight? What punches does he throw? he is a short armed, one armed using fighter... He would always have the potential to catch an opponent... Maybe more in this weak era... But in any strong era he would be circled, avoided, hit with jabs, broken down and finished. Like lewis did... Could a fighter like Ji Zhang do that? don't know... Joshua should be able to do so, s Fury and usyk as well. Wilder? that would be interesting, but at his best Wilder would probably also catch Tua before Tua caught him.
I really didn't. I did not see David Tua fight at any point in his career. I have watched his highlights and a few of his short fights, but I haven't delved any deeper than that. still have to watch his Lennox and Byrd losses. I didn't get into boxing until the Klitschko era. So you can bust my balls for being born in the 90's, but I made this post asking for the opinions of people that know more than I do otherwise I wouldn't post/lurk here.
One legged boxers would struggled to make the count. What's your point?
You really do not see his point? have you watched Tua fight? What punches does he throw? he is a short armed, one armed using fighter... He would always have the potential to catch an opponent... Maybe more in this weak era... But in any strong era he would be circled, avoided, hit with jabs, broken down and finished. Like lewis did... Could a fighter like Ji Zhang do that? don't know... Joshua should be able to do so, s Fury and usyk as well. Wilder? that would be interesting, but at his best Wilder would probably also catch Tua before Tua caught him.
He could probably pick up a Belt but I dont see him as a big force or anything. He wouldnt be walking over everybody that’s for sure. As sorry as the current HW division is, there are several guys that would beat Tua.
David Tua was a beast in his prime, no doubt. Against today's heavyweights, I think he'd hold his own. His power and style could trouble guys like Usyk and Joshua, but Fury's size and slickness might give him fits.
I think Tua would factor in any era.
Near the top, he could run out of ideas against the best boxers however.
If Wilder boxed like he did winning the title, or Fury, the way he fought against Wilder; these might prove able to outscore Tua.
Usyk would have to be on high alert and deliver lots of scoring shots.
Joshua would have difficulty taking Tua's hard punches, as he did with a well conditioned Ruiz Jr.
But Lewis kept his chin tucked and hands moving, and perhaps Joshua could replicate.
Ruiz, Ortiz, and perhaps even Joyce and Parker would all be even money.
He'd beat most imo. Usyk, Fury, AJ, Parker maybe have the speed and skills to stay away and outbox him to a decision but more sluggish power focused guys would be playing with fire against him considering his chin and his power.