I'm glad we can now dead the notion that Ali/Frazier/Holmes/Foreman,etc are too small to beat Fury

I was calling him a con man for years, glad people have finally caught on. Take away the height and reach and what does he have left. Nothing. He’s garbage, flicky jabs and arm punches. George Foreman would have broken him in half. Sonny Liston would fucking beat him half to death. Joe Louis would have put him into orbit. Ali would have clowned him. Tyson, Lewis, Bowe, Holyfield all beat him up. Some retards were saying he’s an ATG HW, he’s not even in the conversation. And if the lying con-man ever has the guts to get in the ring with Joshua, he will get flattened. Which is why he’ll never do it. AJ would knock this bum out.

wasnt there a wilder would ko joe louis thread?

people go on about furys size, but he carries a lot of blubber as well, i mean he must have idk 10 to 15 pounds of fat on his body even when hes slim possibly

Fury had had the success he's had because of his dimensions. But he's not a special talent. Many feel if Fury didn't have those advantages in height and reach he'd not have had half the success he's had This view is too harsh, Fury isn't nikolai valuev he has a lot of good attributes outside of size. Age has started catching up to him at a relatively young age as well.

A lot of Tyson Fury fans felt that the prior generations of boxers would be too small to match up with Fury in a hypothetical H2H fight. I've seen claims that even guys like Bowe or Lewis were too small in comparison, so they'd likely lose to Fury too. Now, I'm not saying every previous ATG beats Fury because of this logic, but the opposite is true. Now we can say for certain that the "small" heavyweights wouldn't be too small for Fury. Discuss. You took the words right out of my mouth. I think this argument was settled very finally on Saturday.

Fury had had the success he's had because of his dimensions. But he's not a special talent. Many feel if Fury didn't have those advantages in height and reach he'd not have had half the success he's had

40yo Wladimir who looked washed up in his previous fight against Jennings, and who was going through heavy marital problems with his crazy wife, with post partum depression, that finally ended up in divorce Fury just caught Wlad at the right time, he was shopworn physically and out of there mentally. Who the hell can concentrate in a fight when your wife is inches away from killing herself or/ and your baby? Nor to mention Fury was most likely on PEDs against Wlad, got suspended and ran away like a ***** from the rematch Fury was always overrated, and definetly a con-man who fooled a lot of people into thinking he was greater than he was Ali, Mike Tyson, Holyfield, Lennox, Vitali, Prime Wlad and others would have beaten the **** outta ¨fists of fluff¨ Fury sounds like u are not a big fan of fury lol

fury can be a dosser and is certainly beatable but u cant take away the facts he went to germany and beat long reigning vlad to take his titles 40yo Wladimir who looked washed up in his previous fight against Jennings, and who was going through heavy marital problems with his crazy wife, with post partum depression, that finally ended up in divorce Fury just caught Wlad at the right time, he was shopworn physically and out of there mentally. Who the hell can concentrate in a fight when your wife is inches away from killing herself or/ and your baby? Nor to mention Fury was most likely on PEDs against Wlad, got suspended and ran away like a bitch from the rematch Fury was always overrated, and definetly a con-man who fooled a lot of people into thinking he was greater than he was Ali, Mike Tyson, Holyfield, Lennox, Vitali, Prime Wlad and others would have beaten the shit outta ¨fists of fluff¨ Fury

For years the Fury fanboys were trolling the boxing history forum insisting he'd blow right through any prior generation of HWs. You can't reach some people, once they decide they are unconditional fans of a fighter logic goes out the window.

Usyk doesn't even beat the old version of James toney lmfao Agreed. James Toney is under that ' Natural Born Fighter ' category along with Eric Morales and many more. Toney is such a natural fighter that he can be old, out of shape, and still kick major ass. He is simply an instinctive fighter. Look at his body of work as a HW, it’s mind boggling. Usyk can’t beat Toney at any weight.

LOL, ok. Dude was thoroughly thoroughly outclassed like 4-5 rounds straight fury was in a ultra instinct type zone, and got his nose busted joshing around.... nobody comes out of this fight fearing this two time undisputed champ who has getting his ass kicked as such...I mean if we being serious francis ngannou beat fury wayyyy easier, Usyk couldn't even drop the shopworn chinny champ without the refs help, how good is Usyk??

Usyk doesn't even beat the old version of James toney lmfao LOL, ok.

fury can be a dosser and is certainly beatable but u cant take away the facts he went to germany and beat long reigning vlad to take his titles he went to the states to take out undefeated wilder who was dangerous and did it a few times plus put up a good fight v usyk and went for the win we have no idea how much those wilder shots took out of him either to me he now looks an older guy, which he is of course, but when u see age on someones face like that its usually not a great sign, no idea if it means he slowed in the ring tho, may do or may not lets wait to see if fury thinks he can do better in a rematch and wants to

Didn't learn ****. So you think Frazier beats Fury just because Usyk did? Usyk himself is way bigger, rangier, and faster than Frazier. I knew he had the tools and the size to deal with Fury which was why I picked him to win. Frazier doesnt have the reach and the mobility to catch Fury. It’s just a bad stylistical matchup for him dude. He would get peppered with jabs all night from long range while doing his bobbing and weaving. Fury’s jabs alone would cause him fits but when he does get inside occasionally, the right hand would be right behind it. Frazier takes a beating and the ref saves him if his corner doesnt throw in the towel. Ali and Holmes beats Fury though. But Foreman I have to think about.

Usyk was just the best fighter Fury has ever fought and here we have a result. Usyk is better than old version Vlad IMO. Usyk doesn't even beat the old version of James toney lmfao

Fury pack of power is a major issue, he couldn't keep fn or Usyk of of him...I think fury misjudged his power as he fought a guy with a historically weak chin three times in wilder, and a cpl handpicked cans along the way

Fury is good, not great. The Fury stans are now working overtime to declare that Usyk is the best fighter ever, because otherwise they have to confront the fact that he was never as good as they thought he was. Usyk was just the best fighter Fury has ever fought and here we have a result. Usyk is better than old version Vlad IMO.

Fury is good, not great. The Fury stans are now working overtime to declare that Usyk is the best fighter ever, because otherwise they have to confront the fact that he was never as good as they thought he was.

Prime Ali would kill Fury. prime Mike Tyson also.

How are you going call him a con-artist? He lost to Usyk, but he didn't look like a con artist. He actually a pretty good fight. The problem is, he was just fighting against Usyk. Fury is not the best, but he is better than everyone except maybe AJ and Usyk. Usyk is just that good. I don't like Fury, but the guy clearly is a champion caliber boxer. He isn't a con-artist because of how he fought in the Usyk fight, he's a con-artist because if it was up to him he would never have fought Usyk in the first place. He delayed it as long as possible, milking his 'reign' as so-called lineal champion against no-hopers like Chisora and Ngannou, until his back was against the wall and he could no longer avoid it. In all the time Fury has been at or around the top of the division, how many top 10 heavyweights has he actually fought? He wanted to be known as the best heavyweight of this generation without fighting the best heavyweights of this generation. That's why he's a con-man.