Should have been a ref stoppage in round 9

People are complaining bc the ropes held him up 3 times bf the referee decided to stop the final shots from what most likely stops the fight . Besides that the referee literally grabbed Usyks arm at one point stopping him from landing a combination sequence he then wedged himself in between the two fir no reason at all when Fury was covering up before he got hit with a hook that sent him into the ropes but it bought him time . Why are ppl complaining is obvious this was a WWE round ,the ref might as well pretended to slip or trip on one of them and then get up with a fake puzzled look on his face as though he’s stunned by falling down instead of the standing 8 count . Lol You saw something very different than what I saw. And there's no standing 8 counts in professional boxing, and hasn't been since 1998. The fact that you don't know the difference says everything here.

I wouldn't have complained about a TKO stoppage, but Fury has very good recuperative powers, it was a historic undisputed fight, and by the rules, that's a perfectly good KD call. Considering how well Fury did recover, IMO, as a vocal Fury critic, it was the correct call to make. Dunno why people are whining about it. I'm way more concerned about the card of the judge who had Fury winning. That's the guy you all should be complaining about...

Not if the ref would of called it the second or third time the ropes held him up I dont understand, you're hoping the ref did more to help Fury recuperate? Calling questionable KDs would have done this. Anyways, those weren't clear, it was more Fury trying to escape and bouncing against the ropes. Those would have been controversial called KDs and Im glad the ref didnt stretch the rule like that to call a KD. That last instance was very clear, Fury was held up by the corner ropes. Good called KD. I agree that the ref momentarily got in Usyk's way during these exchanges, but it didnt change things, Usyk was barely affected - he kept attacking I just think some of you are trying to manufacture controversy, or trying to manufacture a KO victory. Had the round lasted 30 seconds more, maybe it would've been a KO. But that's not what happened. Usyk won clearly, so I dont see any issues.

Exactly, lots of guys been hurt and come back its boxing, either they stopping them too early or too late, no matter what Fans will complain. How many times could this have been stopped, lots of fights like this. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oS9MAdyDJZ0 Fury vs Usyk was nothing like Lyle vs Foreman. Wow, what a war! :boxing:

Right man won. Nothing corrupt about a standing 8th count it has existed before when a fighter just getting saved by the ropes. It saved fury because he got hurt when the 9th round was under a minute to go. Had he got hurt with like 2 mins left then he definitely would get KTFO. People just want conspiracy theories. Even if their man won there’s really gotta be something not right Exactly, lots of guys been hurt and come back its boxing, either they stopping them too early or too late, no matter what Fans will complain. How many times could this have been stopped, lots of fights like this. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oS9MAdyDJZ0

1. Fury was chasing fairies at the end of the 9th round…if you remember Usyk actually stopped punching and was looking at the ref waiting him to step in and stop it 2. Anyone who knows anything about the fight game knew Usyk would be victorious, for all of Fury’s holding, dancing, clowning bollocks…it was worth PPV

There were a couple of knockdowns where things had gotten a little chaotic and I felt Fury chose to take an 8 count to regroup rather that risk Wilder landing something debilitating in the confusion. Maybe this is just an example of a tall clumsy guy falling down but it looked calculated to me. That wasn't a punch that I would normally expect to put Fury down. {"data-align":"none","data-size":"full","title":"N0pzHL6.gif","data-attachmentid":32274012} That was the second KD in the round right? He was really hurt form the first one in the corner. He wasn't recovery when this one happened.

Wilder never got Fury RIGHT on the button like that. He dropped him with temple shots and a forehead shot (which is testament to Wilder’s power) but Usyk popped Fury right on that perfect spot, and Fury didn’t see it coming There were a couple of knockdowns where things had gotten a little chaotic and I felt Fury chose to take an 8 count to regroup rather that risk Wilder landing something debilitating in the confusion. Maybe this is just an example of a tall clumsy guy falling down but it looked calculated to me. That wasn't a punch that I would normally expect to put Fury down. {"data-align":"none","data-size":"full","title":"N0pzHL6.gif","data-attachmentid":32274012}

Seemed like a lack of respect for Usyk's power. Against Wilder, he went down quick when things got rough. Wilder never got Fury RIGHT on the button like that. He dropped him with temple shots and a forehead shot (which is testament to Wilder’s power) but Usyk popped Fury right on that perfect spot, and Fury didn’t see it coming

Fury was clearly held up by the ropes, which is technically a knockdown. Therefore, what the ref issued was a mandatory eight count (different from a standing eight count). Mandatory eight counts are a requirement when a fighter is knocked down. Hopes this clears up some confusion. Here’s the Wikipedia page on this issue: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mandatory_eight_count I agree, and this was touched on later. I’m more speaking to the people who think he was just given an arbitrary standing 8

Ehhh, it's arguable, but I'll say no. I believe the official rules say that you're not allowed to use the ropes to keep yourself upright. So in theory, the first time Fury bounced off the ropes, he should have been ruled knocked down and given a standing 8. The ref definitely stopped Usyk from throwing punches at the end, and Usyk thought it was declared a KO win. He pulled his punches. It was inconsistent refereeing. Weird time to rule a knockdown. I definitely think Fury benefited from this interaction. A ruled KD is the best he could have hoped for. Ref saved him from further beating with that late KD ruling, while half of other refs would have ruled a KO and jumped in. Good points Jozef

Have to agree with this. It looked like the ref did his best to ignore the falling into the ropes rule to avoid giving Usyk a 10-8 round and only applied it when Fury was helpless and about to be punched off the ropes and onto the canvas. I think maybe the ref felt that fans watching the first HW championship fight since Lewis vs Holyfield deserved to see it through to the end, rather than Fury called out on his feet.

Ehhh, it's arguable, but I'll say no. I believe the official rules say that you're not allowed to use the ropes to keep yourself upright. So in theory, the first time Fury bounced off the ropes, he should have been ruled knocked down and given a standing 8. The ref definitely stopped Usyk from throwing punches at the end, and Usyk thought it was declared a KO win. He pulled his punches. It was inconsistent refereeing. Weird time to rule a knockdown. I definitely think Fury benefited from this interaction. A ruled KD is the best he could have hoped for. Ref saved him from further beating with that late KD ruling, while half of other refs would have ruled a KO and jumped in.

Re the slow count, it didnt matter, because the KD happened with 10 sec. left, so the round would have ended anyway w/out an opportunity to KO Fury, Also, and this is weird, the the count was slow -- but it wasnt the ref who was counting. There was a voice on the PA counting -- and it stopped at 4 for some reason, and then resumed counting from 5. Maybe the voice was responding to something the ref was signaling? Not if the ref would of called it the second or third time the ropes held him up

Re the slow count, it didnt matter, because the KD happened with 10 sec. left, so the round would have ended anyway w/out an opportunity to KO Fury, Also, and this is weird, the the count was slow -- but it wasnt the ref who was counting. There was a voice on the PA counting -- and it stopped at 4 for some reason, and then resumed counting from 5. Maybe the voice was responding to something the ref was signaling? And again I say, if the ref had stopped the fight and TKO'd Fury, there would be all kinds of controversy, the Fury fanboys would be insufferable. It was a judgment call, the ref COULD HAVE stopped it.... but Im very glad he didnt. Let the fighters decide it. Luckily 2/3 of the refs got it right. All in all, I think the ref did a good job.

I'm going to guess that most people (myself included) probably meant a mandatory 8 rather than a standing 8. To be a little pedantic. Once he felt against the ropes the ref has every right to start counting, it is a knock down, the only thing stopping him to crumble to the floor was the ropes.

You have to know where you are to take a knee. Fury was on Queer Street and likely **** himself a little Seemed like a lack of respect for Usyk's power. Against Wilder, he went down quick when things got rough.

No 1) it's for the undisputed heavyweight championship. Probably the most prestige title in boxing. Gotta give both fighters the benefit of the doubt 2) imo, only logical reasoning to stop the fight is if Fury was getting absolutely beaten up until that point. Like Fury-Wilder 2, where you think any more damage could ruin his health 3) Usyk is a decent puncher, but not a bludgeoning puncher where you would say, "man, I don't think Fury should take any further shots" It was a slow count, but a good call. There would be more backlash if they stopped the fight at that point, given Fury's ability to recover and how close the fight was. Might've stained the result too; some people in this group would've made threads discrediting Usyk if the ref stopped the fight

I was fine either way. Either they stopped it or it continued like it did. If anything the first time Fury fell into the ropes should had been counted as a knockdown. Fights like the Santillan one should be stopped even before it ended. Fights like Fury/Usyk I like when they continue, Fury got his wits afterward.

FFS people THERE ARE NO STANDING 8'S IN PRO BOXING Fury was clearly held up by the ropes, which is technically a knockdown. Therefore, what the ref issued was a mandatory eight count (different from a standing eight count). Mandatory eight counts are a requirement when a fighter is knocked down. Hopes this clears up some confusion. Here’s the Wikipedia page on this issue: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mandatory_eight_count