So Tank Davis calls out Benn, then Hearn makes his offer right away to Tank...

Hearn Says 'Big' US Fights on Horizon for Conor Benn, Says Offer Made to Gervonta Davis https://www.boxingscene.com/hearn-sa...-davis--181287 The background is Tank saw Benn's lacklustre performance in the Dobson fight and mocked Conor and calls him out. Meaning, Dobson was not supposed to last the distance. But Tank is not the only one. Haney quipped "Benn's power was left in the needle" after seeing the Dobson/Benn fight. ------------------ But that's not the relevant part. This is about an age-old question in this sport: When fighter A calls out fighter B, who is expected to make an offer? A or B? Of course, this is not so simple. Like others say one size doesn't fit all. It depends. Some say whoever calls out has the burden of making a huge effort to make the fight. There are many examples. Ryan Garcia/Dela Hoya bent over backwards, as one example, because Ryan "begged" for the fight. Again, this is not so simple as it seems. Tank calls out Benn, but instead of him making the offer, it's the other side who did. ------------------ What say you Mr. Leicesterage? Leicesterage If a fighter REFUSES to fight someone that called him out unless "the money's right" - is that a DUCK? Yes/No? https://www.boxingscene.com/forums/b...-yes-no

Comments (12)

Outwest_Exp_355

You really think Tank is fighting anyone on DAZN? PBC just signed a deal with Amazon and Tank is there 2nd most marketable fighter.

2y ago

JQside

True but if you don't have the promoter/network, are you really in a position to be calling out said fighter? The burden is still on you to get yourself in that position. Also it depends on what you mean by "make an offer". Just contacting the other guys team and saying I'll fight you for X amount" could be considered an offer and start of negotiations. There's no disagreement on this. Case in point is the Ennis/Crawford situation. Only one side is interested, or so they say. But still, such side would have to do something and make some kind of offer to entice the other. Of course, it can't be done without getting some network/promoter/platform involved. That's what you pay a management team for. You ask them to do it for you. Again I get what you're saying. A call out is a way to gauge interest before starting any negotiating but if you're really serious you have to reach out in a more formal way imo. If both are interested I don't think it matters who makes the first move because surely somebody would if there was genuine interest. Right.

2y ago

JQside

When Beterbiev called out Bivol for the last 5 years, why didn't you ask this question? No interest in that division. Thread is a general question. Not expecting a clear cut answer. It encompasses a lot of things not based on race, creed, nationality, religion, muh promoter, platform, etc., etc.

2y ago

4truth

That fight won't happen nor should it. Both should focus on fighting ranked fighters in their own weight class. Tank has fought a handful and Benn has fought zero. Agree it shouldn't but because neither is going to "focus on fighting ranked fighters in their own weight class", this fight probably will happen.

2y ago

Smash

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2y ago

JQside

You can also take social media blabbering into account as one factor with fighters mentioning names with no intention of fighting them. This is probably another one case. Fast Eddie fell for it.

2y ago

Apollo7

Not so simple, like I reiterated. So many various factors are involved. Many fighters have no powerful promoter/platform backing, so all they can do is wait for the response. True but if you don't have the promoter/network, are you really in a position to be calling out said fighter? The burden is still on you to get yourself in that position. Also it depends on what you mean by "make an offer". Just contacting the other guys team and saying I'll fight you for X amount" could be considered an offer and start of negotiations. There's also the mutuality of interest that comes into play. Like they say "it takes two to tango." You can call out a certain fighter till you're blue in the face and would still not get any response. Meaning, the other guy is simply not interested. And then what if both guys are interested? Who makes the first move? Things like these, but that's all for now at this point. Again I get what you're saying. A call out is a way to gauge interest before starting any negotiating but if you're really serious you have to reach out in a more formal way imo. If both are interested I don't think it matters who makes the first move because surely somebody would if there was genuine interest.

2y ago

JQside

My simple answer would be A because... If you want the fight, make an offer. Not so simple, like I reiterated. So many various factors are involved. Many fighters have no powerful promoter/platform backing, so all they can do is wait for the response. There's also the mutuality of interest that comes into play. Like they say "it takes two to tango." You can call out a certain fighter till you're blue in the face and would still not get any response. Meaning, the other guy is simply not interested. And then what if both guys are interested? Who makes the first move? Things like these, but that's all for now at this point.

2y ago

IronDanHamza

That fight won't happen nor should it. Both should focus on fighting ranked fighters in their own weight class. Tank has fought a handful and Benn has fought zero.

2y ago

Apollo7

This is about an age old question in this sport: When fighter A calls out fighter B, who is expected to make an offer? A or B? My simple answer would be A because... whoever calls out has the burden If you want the fight, make an offer.

2y ago

JQside

tank hopefully is messing around tank has loads of options, eggie is begging for a high profile fight Tank/Benn fight is not happening, don't worry. Been here long enough and most of these characters are all just about talk. Just talk. And Fast Eddie fell hard for it.

2y ago

Smash

tank hopefully is messing around tank has loads of options, eggie is begging for a high profile fight

2y ago