Just shows again this a weak era of boxing. 80's-90's era 10x better.

People need to stop comparing eras. None of that can be proven with any objectivity.

Too many boxing fans are weirdos with this era sh^t. I don't think other sports fans talk every wk about how many yds Joe Montana woulda thrown for if he was QB in 2023 & other goofy sh^t like that. Do football fans ever look for close up shots of their players nipples and debate if they see any signs of puffiness?

blame the young guys wilder is 38 Joshua 34 Usyk 36, 37 in a month Fury 35 Zhang is 40 where are all the young bucks? tyson was shot by early 30s, lewis retired at 37 which was considered old. larry homes was like 38 when he was blasted out by tyson and everyone said he was old. Bowe only lasted a few years before he was done. Holyfield kept going but he was losing to guys like john ruiz by his late 30s.

This is my response to the people who criticize Zhang for being slow. All these new hw are slow wtf.

its hard to compare era's like that, i mean fury took over from wlad, wlads big bro had a very competitive fight with lewis when he was getting on a bit, they all have their good and bad points, bowe wouldnt even fight lewis, holyfield was most likely juiced his entire heavy career, everything can be nitpicked over, they would have to fight each other but they cant, a lot of times they wont even fight the current top guys

You take Bowe in 91-92 nobody now touches him. Ok, so now when Wilder got his ass whooped, you came out with this. So, the era sucks because there is no American around.

Holyfield, Lewis, Tyson, Foreman, Bowe blast anybody nowdays. The United Staes upper weigh boing is dead at heavyweight cruiser weight, light heavy weight, and maybe even middle weight. Just look at who is on top and the ages of the fighters at Box rec https://boxrec.com/en/ratings?r%5Bro...Bdivision%5D=H eavyweight&r%5Bcountry%5D=US&r_go= The top 10-20 in the 1990s would beat the to 5 2024 USA heavies The USA boxing is a thread I may start that will rock the foundation of this forum, as it includes genetics, social factors, dietary eating / nutrition factors, lifestyle, and more ... the USA program and its men are well, sick. The sickness will kill or the network TV for boxing here. In two years time I do not know what will be left of USA boxing. Anderson our heavyweight " hope " has been arrested with a DUI and gun charge. He might end up boxing for Ohio penal league. I think he'd kill it in the PLG games set to debut in 2024-2025! https://www.boxingscene.com/forums/n...-to-debut-2024

Fury needs to best usy k and Josh and Zhang and flip now The man arguably lost to an 0-0 boxer!

Oh, come on! The older generation had its better tops, but I can't tell they were all better, little all "10 times better". They were more active, which we lack today and that is the problem.

80sis no better. 90s is the golden age of heavyweights for me, everyone was talented and juiced to the gills.

Prime Holyfield abuses guys like Wilder, Fury, Joshua. Prime Holyfield, roided to the gills. Imagine Prime Joshua on steroids...

Adding 20 lbs of muscle does that look at usyk. he just looks like a stockier version of his old self. he didnt suddenly grew now trap muscles that look odd... like i said, read up on the 'evan fields' story. also, one of the muscle groups that grows abnormally large under ste use are trap muscles. look at other sted user before and after, then compare them to Holyfield. no way could a man naturally gain 20lbs of LEAN MASS. these guys burn through calories. the only way to add so much weight is for a good chunk of that to be fat. look at the likes of parker, joyce, usyk, wilder, aj, whyte, fury...as they've added mass, their trap muscles didnt stand out weirdly

look up "Evan Fields", that was the name used buying Steds. They called the attached number and holyfield picked it up. The case with his heart defect when he lost to Bowe..was likely caused by ped use. He later claimed he'd literally healed a heart defect by a FAITH HEALER and came back stronger. plus just look at his physique from CW to HW. ​{"data-align":"none","data-size":"full","title":"main-qimg-7cba66789e7e26822c95eb50fa6407bf-pjlq.jpg","data-attachmentid":32112741} plus even mike tyson says he used to scam the testers with a fake willy filled with someone else's piss. Adding 20 lbs of muscle does that

"Evan Fields" literally had roids delivered to his home. He answered the door. Holyfield was set up somebody sent that to him. You really think he has sent to his on house.

These guys all suck. It’s sad that the so called great Joshua is taking this long to take out Wallin. Straight up trash as a fighter.

No proof Holyfield juiced. look up "Evan Fields", that was the name used buying Steds. They called the attached number and holyfield picked it up. The case with his heart defect when he lost to Bowe..was likely caused by ped use. He later claimed he'd literally healed a heart defect by a FAITH HEALER and came back stronger. plus just look at his physique from CW to HW. ​{"data-align":"none","data-size":"full","title":"main-qimg-7cba66789e7e26822c95eb50fa6407bf-pjlq.jpg","data-attachmentid":32112741} plus even mike tyson says he used to scam the testers with a fake willy filled with someone else's piss.

Holyfield, Lewis, Tyson, Foreman, Bowe blast anybody nowdays. Definitely. I'll.add that not a single one of them would have struggled with an MMA fighter in a boxing match.

1) 80s was a charles martin level era. those guys were gifted vacant belts. foreman had retired too. 2) the 90s gen got to take those belts off the bums... and how good was that gen really? holyfield was juicing more than Miller. Lewis was nothing spectacular. He had a great run of form 97-99 and got to fight an off-juice holyfield and later a long time crackwh*** called mike tyson. how was that a great era? oh holyfield vs bowe trilogy, i suppose...not better than fury vs wilder. 3) this gen has too many monsters. No proof Holyfield juiced.

What because your American guys lost? It's a good solid era with a lot of competetive fighters. You really think Fury beats prime Holyfield, Tyson, Lewis, Bowe.

Fury needs to best usy k and Josh and Zhang and flip now