Does anyone here actually believe fury lost the ngannou fight?

Well....all this blathering means nothing. Ngannou is 0 - 1. Let's see where here can go from here.

i had ngannou winning 100-89. he clearly won all 10 rounds. anyone who scored it otherwise should stop watching boxing because you don't know what you're looking at

An out-of-shape Fury won the fight clearly, but Ngannou made it a lot more competitive than anyone expected. Fury was poor, but have to give Ngannou credit for transitioning so well on the big stage against the Lineal champion. Anyone who says otherwise is far too invested and emotionally unstable. Some of these losers go to bed and dream about Fury losing. Bingo right there. The standard Fury haters seeing something that wasn't there.

No. In fact it wasn't even all that close. People got carried away because of the flash knockdown.

Any of these people thinking Fury won the fight clearly... I challenge you to post a rd by rd breakdown like I did. Because there is no world in which Fury won the fight clearly. That's BS coming from people who didn't actually score the fight or don't know how to.

Jello-Belly Didn't lose... He just looked very bad ...

An out-of-shape Fury won the fight clearly, but Ngannou made it a lot more competitive than anyone expected. Fury was poor, but have to give Ngannou credit for transitioning so well on the big stage against the Lineal champion. Anyone who says otherwise is far too invested and emotionally unstable. Some of these losers go to bed and dream about Fury losing.

If Francis had faith in his stamina and upped the pace he could have won but didn't. Superman punches in round 10, he didn't empty his tank and it cost him. Not enough experience...now it's onto the legit punchers at HW for Francis to see how he deals with getting CRACKED.

Idk why anyone would be surprised Fury, throughout his entire career has been beyond lazy when it comes to training. Theres probably 5 fights in his whole career he trained properly for, the rest of them he just got by on talent and size. It's been obvious over the past couple of years that he's abusing recreational drugs and he turned up to the Ngannou conference about 10 weeks before the fight in the worst shape he's ever been in outside of his "retirement" Additionally he has been decked HEAVILY by that Neven Pajkic guy who is a club fighter, badly rocked by Nikolai Firtha who is a complete bum, decked by Steve Cunningham who is 200lbs and can't punch, outboxed by John Mcdermott, I mean I can go on all night. He also has two of the best wins in the last 20 years in the division. Fury isn't a professional athlete, he's a mental weirdo with freakish natural ability and a knack for pulling it out when it really matters. Fury completley overlooked Ngannou who was, in fairness, a lot better than we all thought, and he had one of his many, many, badly off nights. He will probably ko1 Usyk next just to make our brains explode even more. Goodness, you guys still at it? You hardcore Fury cronies still creating narratives and trying to hoodwink reality? Just to protect Tyson Fury 'Stop it mate, stop the nonsense'. Ngannou won the fight, Fury got the decision 'That is the reality of the fight'. He did this, he did that, he never took Ngannou serious 'Tyson Fury was pretty much in his usual Kronk Fury condition, and he had a 12 week training camp according to himself'. Stop making excuses for Tyson Fury, stop it 'Fury is very intelligent man when it comes to people, and so are his people'. And in my opinion they will not respect or value the nonsense that people have come out with during the aftermath of the Ngannou fight, to protect Tyson Fury's ability or resume. So now Ngannou is much better than EVERYONE thought 'But only because Tyson Fury was decked and beaten up by Ngannou'. Ngannou does not want to fight any of the other top heavyweights mate, and they have all been pursing a fight with Ngannou 'Joshua, Wilder, Zhang'. None of those Heavyweights have been shying away from a fight with Ngannou 'I give Ngannou big credit for his performance vs Fury. But the man does not look game when it comes to the actual Heavyweight division'. Domestic level fighters have been calling to fight Ngannou, and also a semi-retired Derek Chisora 'The Heavyweight boxing divisions, is not afraid of Ngannou in the same way the mixed martial arts world was, this is clear to me'. Note: I would not disrespect Tyson Fury, and claim that he is lazy when it comes to training. It is just that there are levels of work ethic 'Fury is not a lazy person, but he does not have the level of work ethic of Joshua or Usyk'. I have stated, the main points on this thread in my previous posts regarding the fight 'And I believe that most men, that have any kind of experience. Most men that have seen a two men have a straighter, you all know who won the fight. Tyson Fury got the decision, but he did not win the fight'. Fury's hardcore fans, and cronies 'In all honestly need to pipe down. Because your man is not all-time great Heavyweight right now as we speak, and there have been greater by far more influential UK fighters than Fury'. Tyson Fury's next fight, is his ultimately legacy fight 'This is the fight'. If Tyson Fury loses his fight to Uysk 'The Fury is just another World Heavyweight Champion, who was abit better maybe than a Michael Moorer, Hasim Rahman, Oliver McCall, Frank Bruno, James Bone Crusher Smith the list goes on'. People may disagree with me with that point, but those Heavyweights fought in greater era's 'Yes Fury has two mega wins on his resume, the two best wins in the Heavyweight division out of all active heavyweights in terms of historical magnitude'. But after riddling his way to a Kiltschko win, Fury unfortunately due to his circumstance never re-matched Wladimir Kiltschko and that was a injustice 'It was Anthony Joshua who beat the Wladimir Kltschko who Tyson Fury should of fought in their rematch'. Yes Tyson Fury achieved another mega win vs Deontay Wilder 'And Wilder has been a satisfactory Heavyweight Champion in my opinion. But in terms of all the styles and level of fighters of Wilder has fought, Wilder is not thoroughly proven as Anthony Joshua'. I honestly don't think people or hardcore Fury fans understand the seriousness of Fury vs Usyk 'Specifically for Tyson Fury, because Usyk is already a all-time great fighter. Usyk's legacy is solid'. Most of the mythology which surrounds Tyson Fury, most of his hypothetically reputation which he just about still has now 'Potentially can be obliterated in one fight vs Oleksandr Usyk'. For a very long time, the narrative has been that none of those classically physique styled Heavyweights could beat Tyson Fury 'Even though a 210 + pound Wilder, effectively knocked him out'. Fury vs Usyk is 'Tyson Fury's ultimately legacy fight. Against a fighter in Oleksandr Uysk who represents almost everything the media, the hardcore fans and the mythology which surrounds Fury has been claiming that he is greater than'. Usyk is a 220 pound former Cruiser weight fighter, Usyk is not power puncher 'In order for Usyk to win a fight vs Fury. Uysk is going to have to beat Tyson Fury on a fundamental level. On the level which people claim distinguishes Fury from all other current Heavyweights'. That is why this fight can completely obliterate the methodology which surrounds Tyson Fury's abilities and resume 'Fury is not at the level of Mike Tyson, Evander Holyfield or Lennox Lewis. When those fighters took loses, their legacies their abilities was already proven 'And even still they came back after loses'. People need to stop making excuses for Tyson Fury, because the game moves on 'Fury was decked vs Ngannou, Fury got up to his credit and fought his way back into the fight. And then was given the decision'. Fury vs Usyk 'Is Tyson Fury's ultimately legacy fight, this is the fight' etc.

Fury won because its scored by rounds and he won more rounds even with the knockdown. Doesnt tell the whole story though because those rounds, instead of dominating them against a guy in his debut, he barely scraped by those rounds. Hes the lineal heavyweight champion and he embarrassed himself against a 37 year old cage fighter who never even had an amateur boxing fight in his life. Fury's dad was a boxer, he had been training since he was in diapers, what in the fuk. Idk why anyone would be surprised Fury, throughout his entire career has been beyond lazy when it comes to training. Theres probably 5 fights in his whole career he trained properly for, the rest of them he just got by on talent and size. It's been obvious over the past couple of years that he's abusing recreational drugs and he turned up to the Ngannou conference about 10 weeks before the fight in the worst shape he's ever been in outside of his "retirement" Additionally he has been decked HEAVILY by that Neven Pajkic guy who is a club fighter, badly rocked by Nikolai Firtha who is a complete bum, decked by Steve Cunningham who is 200lbs and can't punch, outboxed by John Mcdermott, I mean I can go on all night. He also has two of the best wins in the last 20 years in the division. Fury isn't a professional athlete, he's a mental weirdo with freakish natural ability and a knack for pulling it out when it really matters. Fury completley overlooked Ngannou who was, in fairness, a lot better than we all thought, and he had one of his many, many, badly off nights. He will probably ko1 Usyk next just to make our brains explode even more.

Count me as one who thinks Ngannou has a very clear argument to winning the fight, and that the narrative that Fury clearly won is a bunch of nonsense. First, Ngannou did all the damage. He outlanded Fury in power punches, dropped Fury, and was basically uninjured the next day, unlike Fury. The argument that Fury won depends on the notion that Fury landed more jabs, which is true, BUT boxing is scored round by round. There also were very few punches thrown, Fury threw only 223 to Ngannou's 231. It's very easy to follow what landed too. So let's look at the punch stats and score. Round 1. Fury outlands Ngannou 11 to 6, although they were equal in power punches landed. 10-9 Fury. Round 2. This is the critical round. Fury outlands Ngannou 7 to 6, landing just one extra jab. But Ngannou lands the most significant punches, and opens a cut on Fury with an uppercut. Boxing is scored on effective aggression and clean punches. I personally value a punch that did lasting damage over a single jab. If you disagree, this is the path to Fury winning, but it is on the strength of a single jab. 10-9 Ngannou, 19-19. Round 3. We all know what happened this round. Fury gets dropped. 10-8 Ngannou, 27-29 Ngannou. Round 4. Ngannou outlands Fury in both power punches and jabs, 8 to 6. 10-9 Ngannou, 36-39 Ngannou. Round 5. Fury outlands Ngannou 9 to 6. Mostly jabs. 10-9 Fury, 46-48 Ngannou. Round 6. Fury outlands Ngannou 9 to 5. 6 extra jabs. 10-9 Fury, 56-57 Ngannou. Round 7. They both land 5 punches. Fury lands 2 jabs and 3 power to Ngannou's 1 jab and 4 power punches. What should win? 80% power punches or 60% on the same number of landed punches. 10-9 Ngannou, 65-67 Ngannou. Round 8. Ngannou outlands Fury 10 to 9, landing an additional power punch and landing the more significant punches to boot. 10-9 Ngannou, 74-77 Ngannou. Round 9. Fury outlands Ngannou 8 to 2. 10-9 Fury, 84-86 Ngannou. Round 10. Fury outlands Ngannou 6 to 4. 10-9 Fury, 94-95 Ngannou. Note that many of the rounds were very close in terms of punches landed. The extra jabs landed by Fury were all in a few of his more dominant rounds, and Ngannou still kept up in terms of power punches landed. He did more damage, frequently pushed the champion back, and scored the only knockdown, and was never in any trouble at all. If you want to give Fury the win based on landing one additional jab in round 2, you do you. But it should never have been this close to begin with, and the notion that he clearly won is obviously BS. Most rounds there was only 1-2 punches separating them. And I am positive that if Ngannou had been the defending boxing champion and Fury had been the MMA debutante, that exact same fight would have been scored probably 7-3 Ngannou with a KD. If you think Fury clearly won, I challenge you to post up a detailed breakdown of the fight proving it. This summing up of the fight is spot on I had Ngannou clearly winning 5 rounds with a Knockdown, even giving Fury all the others there was only one winner. The decision about who won the fight was made when the Usyk deal was done though as then far too much money at stake, without a Knockout Ngannou was never leaving that ring the winner.

He lost it on principles.

Fury won because its scored by rounds and he won more rounds even with the knockdown. Doesnt tell the whole story though because those rounds, instead of dominating them against a guy in his debut, he barely scraped by those rounds. Hes the lineal heavyweight champion and he embarrassed himself against a 37 year old cage fighter who never even had an amateur boxing fight in his life. Fury's dad was a boxer, he had been training since he was in diapers, what in the fuk.

Ngonaou has been boxing for close to 20 years. His whole game in MMA is literally trying to knock you out standing with his hands. Fury has been dropped 7 times. He has a glass jaw. He gets dropped 1 out of every 4 fights he has. I've been boxing longer than that. I have amateur fights. If i turn pro now at the age of 46 with my amateur experience and take a top 10 guy the distance by winning rounds, that doesn't mean I'm an experienced fighter.

I had Fury 6 rounds to 4 but if someone had it 5-5 and gave the win to Francis because of the knockdown i have no problem with that. I thought Tyson won the fight with his jab but all these casuals that are crying about robbery dont know the rules of the sport Even as a Fury fan i have no problem saying that his conditioning and physique are a disgrace to boxing and athletes all over the world Lennox Lewis beat David Tua predominantly with his jab 'Lets get this right mate, Tyson Fury did not dominate or beat up Ngannou with his jab, Fury does not have a all-time great jab'. And it was not just casual fans mate, who had Ngannou winning. Many former professional boxers, all had Ngannou winning the fight 'Carl Froch being one of them. Many where fighters who have vocally praised and backed Fury for many years'. Like I said in my posts, the one mistake Ngannou made was not really pressuring Fury when he had him hurt 'Ngannou ether through lack of boxing experience, allowed Fury back into the fight. Even if Ngannou did not get Fury out of there after the knock down, he could of definitively in my opinion most likely decked him again'. But regardless, Ngannou fought the better fight 'Fury was the fighter who made more mistakes in the fight than Ngannou'. Note: The only real credit I give Fury is? After being whacked, he got up off the decked and found a way back into the fight 'But Fury still with all his experience and apparent skills could not make the fight comfortable for himself, or dominate Nagnnou. Hardcore Fury fans should be very concerned with that performance, instead of trying to make it out to be something it was not'. The game moves on, and Fury now need to prepare for Oleksandr Usyk etc.

I had Fury 6 rounds to 4 but if someone had it 5-5 and gave the win to Francis because of the knockdown i have no problem with that. I thought Tyson won the fight with his jab but all these casuals that are crying about robbery dont know the rules of the sport Even as a Fury fan i have no problem saying that his conditioning and physique are a disgrace to boxing and athletes all over the world

I had Fury edging it but it’s irrelevant because the simple he fact it was competitive, that he got dropped and even arguably lost the fight is a total embarrassment. I like Fury but there will never be a more embarrassing moment for boxing than this.

this is just common sense. The guys trying to give the runner with the flimsy jab the win are his gay lovers. No other reason to give fury the fight. Op is a gay fan boy. There is no other logical reason he would post the idiocy he does. NEGATIVE. I've always said Fury is a glass jaw hw in the weakest hw era of all time. Right because we all know in boxing jabs don't count when the other guy is doing nothing but just walking forward getting outlanded. Your username is the eptitome of who you are. And you're a closet cuck. Hence why you always talk about blacks and cucks. You clearly have an infatutaion with them. Everyone knows it on this forum. No one in their right mind believes it was a robbery except for headshots like you.

Ngannou won the fight, he decked Fury and inflicted the most damage. Those are the area's were instinctively you win a fight. If two men where having a straighter street fight, and one man scored and knock down and then inflicts the most physical damage? None of the spectators walk away from that fight, thinking that the man who was decked and busted up 'Won the fight'. Instinctively that is how men scored fights, this is how we view physical confrontations 'Aggression, dominance, damage, skill'. Now in the boxing ring? Yes Fury fiddled and riddled his way back into the fight, he deserves credit for getting back up off the canvas to fight on after being whacked 'But he was given the decision because Ngannou made a mistake of not pressuring Fury 100% after the knock-down, Ngannou should of in my opinion attacked more aggressively in that moment'. The only way people can give Fury the win is by getting all technical 'But even when people go down this route, Fury only out landed Ngannou by 11 punches. So of those 11 punches, what damage did those punches do? Did they deck Ngannou? Did they stop him in his tracks? Where they power punches? No'. Note: Fury kept his titles, he was whacked and then beaten up 'Got back up and fought his way back into the fight, survived then was given the decision because he was the Champion'. Ngannou was very docile once he had Fury hurt, compare how Ngannou behaved to any recent top Heavyweight offensive fighter Wilder & Haye. Wilder is not the best technically, but when he hurts a fighter 'Then the follow up attacks are maximum aggression, near psychopathic levels of aggression'. Ngannou was extremely docile, and looked as if he was standing back to admire his work in that moment 'That was the one mistake he made in the fight'. Apart from that Ngannou overall fought the better fight, he just was not given the decision etc. this is just common sense. the guys trying to give the runner with the flimsy jab the win are his gay lovers. no other reason to give fury the fight. OP is a gay fan boy. there is no other logical reason he would post the idiocy he does.

I don't care if he lost or not. I didn't score it. The fact that he was dropped, hurt several times, and struggled with a goddamn MMA fighter says everything outside of what anyone believes who won or not. Ngonaou has been boxing for close to 20 years. His whole game in MMA is literally trying to knock you out standing with his hands. Fury has been dropped 7 times. He has a glass jaw. He gets dropped 1 out of every 4 fights he has.