Up until maybe just recently with Usyk, the current era of heavyweight boxing was dominated by three giants of men who were believed to represent the evolution of the heavyweight division. They were exceptionally tall for boxers and more skilled than the few lumbering giants of the past. The tallest and heaviest among the three was, in fact, supposed to be the most skilled of the group.
However, it was the largest and most skilled of the trio who was recently exposed. This exposure came when he faced an opponent of similar size/weight. It became evident how much Tyson Fury relied on his height and, especially, weight to win, as his signature style of leaning and smothering had no effect on a man as heavy and strong as Francis.
Based on this, it wouldn't be unreasonable to speculate that Francis Ngannou might defeat either Anthony Joshua or Deontay Wilder, especially considering the ongoing rumors of negotiations with both fighters. If they were to be beaten by a boxing novice who happened to be bigger and stronger, it becomes apparent that these three fighters primarily relied on their size and strength to succeed and not skill like the great HWs of the past.
Up until maybe just recently with Usyk, the current era of heavyweight boxing was dominated by three giants of men who were believed to represent the evolution of the heavyweight division. They were exceptionally tall for boxers and more skilled than the few lumbering giants of the past. The tallest and heaviest among the three was, in fact, supposed to be the most skilled of the group.
However, it was the largest and most skilled of the trio who was recently exposed. This exposure came when he faced an opponent of similar size/weight. It became evident how much Tyson Fury relied on his height and, especially, weight to win, as his signature style of leaning and smothering had no effect on a man as heavy and strong as Francis.
Based on this, it wouldn't be unreasonable to speculate that Francis Ngannou might defeat either Anthony Joshua or Deontay Wilder, especially considering the ongoing rumors of negotiations with both fighters. If they were to be beaten by a boxing novice who happened to be bigger and stronger, it becomes apparent that these three fighters primarily relied on their size and strength to succeed and not skill like the great HWs of the past.
The mere fact that the novice pushed this generation's ''best'' HW to the limits says all that needs to be said about this piss poor HW era.
No end in sight :(
You do not need Ngannou to tell you that. HWs today are not as skillful as in the 70s and 90s. The few that are, are not fighting high-level opposition or are past their prime. So, the HW boxers have evolved from carefully carved-out boxing careers, not being their best versions. It is evident that a cruiserweight comes in and wins the championship because the Heavyweights are not skilled enough.
He looked so timid in the fight against Fury. You could tell he was holding back a lot because this was his 1st boxing match.
But then he ended up going the full distance... took the best punches that Fury had to offer... plus an elbow... and came out of the ring looking like he hadn't been touched.
Now that he knows the durability of his own chin... who knows... he might come out raining punches like Maidana... like "fuck this 12 round bullshit I'm taking you out... right here, right now."
He didn't throw because he was tired. Mouth opened wide, breathing heavy early.
But credit, hes a very strong, tough, smart guy, who did his research on Tyson and put him in all sorts of trouble.
But raining punches... no. 10/12 3 minute rounds is a tough ask for him.
So if something that hasn't happened, and probably wouldn't happen, did happen, would it prove something?
Yeah maybe. But it hasn't happened.
Yep...can't see anyway AJ or Windmill fight Ngannou. A loss in an exhibition is the end of their career and Ngannou can't guarantee cash out retirement money.
Fury is the golden goose that generates the money. No one wants to see Ngannou, V AJ or wilder. They barely want to see Aj v Wilder hence that fight is dead inn the water with fast Eddie talking up AJ v Fury or Ngannou.
I want to see Wilder v ruiz. AJ v Parker and if anyone Zhang v ngannou.
You realize wilder and Usyk weigh the same right
Weight yes, but Wilder is 6'7" with an "83 reach so his freaky leverages are what allow him to be so powerful. He wouldn't be one of the greatest KO artists in boxing history with Usyk's 6'3", 78" reach body proportions.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nxc-Acg3vLw
This guy is eating rights nonstop and was wobbled a few times. You are not going to take these shots from an in-shape Wilder or AJ.
Would Ngannou potentially beating or even KOing AJ or Wilder be proof that this generations HW got by more on size than skill?
I’ve been saying this since all that bullchit soap opera between AJ and Wilder
Throw Tyson Fury in there and you got the three fughin stooges
Show me yesteryear fighter’s who’s
main strategy relied on tiring your opponent by overweighting them and holding at every chance
Ffs they don’t even fight out clinches anymore
This generations roids are stronger than ever.
Tyson fury not on roids would be a lumbering oaf with bad gas tank
but he’s a proven roider so he can move and improve gas tank. However last fight we have a fellow roider who is a super responder
yeah and the tests are basically worthless. if people think the tests mean anything then they think fury hasnt roided since 2015 lmao
Up until maybe just recently with Usyk, the current era of heavyweight boxing was dominated by three giants of men
You realize wilder and Usyk weigh the same right
This generations roids are stronger than ever.
Tyson fury not on roids would be a lumbering oaf with bad gas tank
but he’s a proven roider so he can move and improve gas tank. However last fight we have a fellow roider who is a super responder
I don't think you need to extend it to Wilder and AJ. We can stick with just Fury because that's the guy Ngannou beat. It's evident that a lot of Fury's fights, especially his two knockouts of Wilder and Cunningham were due to his size. He was a weight bully. If Wilder was naturally the same size and weight as Fury he probably beats him. Fury did put up a good boxing performance against Wladimir, but there are question marks surrounding that fight because Fury popped dirty for steroids the same year they fought. He should have actually been serving a ban instead of being allowed to fight Wladimir.
On top of that, the Fury team forced Wladimir to remove some of the padding from under the ring mat before the fight began. They refused to fight Wladimir without some of the floor padding removed. This means that the surface of the ring ended up suiting Fury's style and conditions that he trained under, rather than suiting Wladimir's style and conditions he trained under. So while that seemed like a brilliant win at the time for Fury, in hindsight it has a lot of question marks surrounding it.
He looked so timid in the fight against Fury. You could tell he was holding back a lot because this was his 1st boxing match.
But then he ended up going the full distance... took the best punches that Fury had to offer... plus an elbow... and came out of the ring looking like he hadn't been touched.
Now that he knows the durability of his own chin... who knows... he might come out raining punches like Maidana... like "fuck this 12 round bullshit I'm taking you out... right here, right now."
You do a lot of supposition on a sample size of 1. We need to see all of them in the ring against each other quite a lot more to give your theory any credence.