GGG never declined. GGG said, 164, 50/50 right in the middle. Ward WALKED.
Then GGG offered, 168, 50/50. Ward WALKED AGAIN
Ward is a duck confirmed.
Imagine defending Andre Ward LMFAO you'd have to be a low iq simp
The simp is you, Headshyte.
i dont really follow this ggg ward saga (if u can call it that) but the email says ggg is focused on unifying the MW division, how is that a duck if a guy who wants a fight is not even in that division? Doesnt really make sense to me if thats what it is, thats actually pretty smart, not moving up in weight to fight a spoiler in ward who basically cant lose on the cards lol, for low cash too, point out if im missing something here
It’s a duck when you claim you’ll fight anyone from 154-168 and when a quality fighter steps up, then the story changed to “oh, we’re busy trying unify 160”.
168 would be 50/50 concession. GGG go up 8lbs, Ward move down 7 lbs. completely fair, meet in the middle terms.
Before that Ward asked for GGG at 168, GGG offered 164 lbs. GGG go up 4 lbs, Ward come down 4 lbs. Completely fair.
Ward walked away BOTH TIMES, when GGG was the bigger draw. You can't claim duck and then walk away at negotiations. You are in fact ducking.
Andre Ward is a duck CONFIRMED.
Do you believe this garbage? Ward was hard pressed to make 168 and 164 wasn’t possible at that stage of his career. The second time Ward had already moved up and fought Kovalev, he wasn’t coming back down. Team ggg was just using Wards name, they had no intention of actually fighting him.
Golovkin: I'll fight anyone at 154, 160, 168 (Mar 17, 2012)
https://www.espn.com/blog/new-york/b...-at-154160-168
Look at the timeline. These are the guys who had balls to step up: (Ward was nowhere to be found here. Quite a long period of time since the challenge!)
May 12, 2012 Makoto Fuchigami
Sep 01, 2012 Gzegorz Proska
Jan 19, 2013 Gabriel Rosado
Mar 30, 2013 Nobuhiro Ishida
Jun 29, 2013 Matthew Macklin
Nov 02, 2013 Curtis Stevens
Feb 01, 2014 Adama Osumanu
Jul 26, 2014 Daniel Geale
Oct 18, 2014 Marco Antonio Rubio
Feb 02, 2015 Martin Murray
May 16, 2015 Wille Monro Jr.
Oct 17, 2015 David Lemieux
It was here when Ward offered the fight supposedly 2 more fights for each fighter as tuneups before even the fight takes place. It's hilarious. You can't make this sh*** up.
GGG team was desperate for fights at that time (2012), thus the 154 - 168 challenge. No one among the top guys stepped up.
Story goes... in 2012 that GGG and Ward were invited by HBO. Ward was said to have made excuses about his shoulder, not to mention he's set to move up and had no intention of staying at his previous weight, let alone go back down.
This GGG ducking Ward is over rehashed. It's for people with very little objectivity and extreme dislike of... I don't even know what.
GGG never declined. GGG said, 164, 50/50 right in the middle. Ward WALKED.
Then GGG offered, 168, 50/50. Ward WALKED AGAIN
Ward is a duck confirmed.
Imagine defending Andre Ward LMFAO you'd have to be a low iq simp
Loeffler said no such thing buddy.
Again, I'm taking ggg promoter word over some ggg fanboy 10 times out of 10.
GGG ducked 168 til 2022.
That was before he even got the Canelo fight & was desperate for a big fight iirc. I don't think Team GGG realized or didn't think through how it'd be a bad move to say this & not act on it if someone like Dre called them on it. That said it woulda been a massively stupid move for him to go up to fight Dre at 168 for short money while being the #1 guy at 154 to fight the cash cow of boxing for huge money.
I think Team GGG made a lot of good moves to get him as popular as he got as a foreign guy in the US, which doesn't happen often, but this was clearly a bad move by them, in saying this, but a good move in not acting on it despite looking dumb/p#ssy/what have you. Go talk to Chad Dawson about saying dumb sh^t & then following through with it when you shouldn't have. And that was vs Dre too.
- - Golovkin had become a popular US icon and making $$$ doing mag ads and appearances.
Wart stunk so bad that like l’l floydy prior to Haymon, they stunk out their homecomings.
The same reason Canelo fought Matthew Hatton, Alfonso Gomez, and Kermit Cintron, Shane Mosley, and Josesito Lopez, all welterweights, when he had a 154 strap and was calling himself champion in that division.
Answer: hyper and marketing.
It's Saturday. Surely you guys have better stuff to do than this.
This video is after ggg declined the offered contract dumba$$...
Ward offered ggg a fight at 168 for 50/50 according to ggg own promoter. Team ggg declined.
"Then Ward walked away at full 168"
thanks for proving my point goofy.
the man who offers the contract isn't the duck. The man who declines is the duck. And team ggg declined Ward's offer. That's a fact. Not an opinion.
Hindsight is 20/20. And we all seen ggg never move up. He was all talk. Never wanted smoke. His resume proves this. Which is why your still playing fantasy boxing for ggg.
GGG never declined. GGG said, 164, 50/50 right in the middle. Ward WALKED.
Then GGG offered, 168, 50/50. Ward WALKED AGAIN
Ward is a duck confirmed.
Imagine defending Andre Ward LMFAO you'd have to be a low iq simp
Taken from Showtime. Open the Image in a new tab if you cant read it :lol1:
https://i.imgur.com/ZQVMY9Y.png
So lets try again, why did GGG duck?
i dont really follow this ggg ward saga (if u can call it that) but the email says ggg is focused on unifying the MW division, how is that a duck if a guy who wants a fight is not even in that division? Doesnt really make sense to me if thats what it is, thats actually pretty smart, not moving up in weight to fight a spoiler in ward who basically cant lose on the cards lol, for low cash too, point out if im missing something here
IDK but Golovkin arguably beat a prime Canelo TWICE (despite being nearly a decade older) which tells you everything about his quality.
A phenomenal fighter and definitely one of the BEST of his era (just like Ward, Floyd + Pacquiao) who would give Hagler a very tough night.
lol @ arguing with low iq monkeys. LOL @ me
Then ward walked away at full 168.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SFY0pgZMHjk
Ward's own words. I ain't fighting GGG at 168
Period.
Ward walked away 3 times. he's a duck confirmed.
This video is after ggg declined the offered contract dumba$$...
Ward offered ggg a fight at 168 for 50/50 according to ggg own promoter. Team ggg declined.
"Then Ward walked away at full 168"
thanks for proving my point goofy.
the man who offers the contract isn't the duck. The man who declines is the duck. And team ggg declined Ward's offer. That's a fact. Not an opinion.
Hindsight is 20/20. And we all seen ggg never move up. He was all talk. Never wanted smoke. His resume proves this. Which is why your still playing fantasy boxing for ggg.
The video was made after Ward moved to 175. After Ward/Kovalev 1.
168 would be 50/50 concession. GGG go up 8lbs, Ward move down 7 lbs. completely fair, meet in the middle terms.
Before that Ward asked for GGG at 168, GGG offered 164 lbs. GGG go up 4 lbs, Ward come down 4 lbs. Completely fair.
Ward walked away BOTH TIMES, when GGG was the bigger draw. You can't claim duck and then walk away at negotiations. You are in fact ducking.
Andre Ward is a duck CONFIRMED.
https://youtu.be/uz1KPqmfRJk?si=ulIdIP8BOAkokD2_
11 min mark to 12 min mark....youtube kept the files.
Ward made and offer. And k2 had excuses and none of them were weight.
Loeffler out his own mouth said ward offered the fight 50/50 168.
Facts over opinions. I gave you video evidence of ggg promoter confirming an offer from ward.
Nothing left to debate.
GGG ducked
lol @ arguing with low iq monkeys. LOL @ me
Then ward walked away at full 168.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SFY0pgZMHjk
Ward's own words. I ain't fighting GGG at 168
Period.
Ward walked away 3 times. he's a duck confirmed.
i dont need rumor and bullchit
i have Ward in video saying he won't fight GGG at 168 lbs.
The video was made after Ward moved to 175. After Ward/Kovalev 1.
Fact
Ward said he wont fight GGG at 168 lbs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SFY0pgZMHjk
Ward wouldn't agree to 164. then outright declined 168 lbs.
dude called GGG out then ducked him 3 times. first time was at the HBO hq.
Distorted reaction. That video was made AFTER Ward moved up to 175. After he fought Kovalev the first time.
Here’s the straight dope. When a Ward/ggg fight was a real possibility, team ggg insisted that the fight happen at 164. They knew Ward would be hard pressed to make 168 and 164 wouldn’t be possible. They could act like they wanted a Ward fight without actually fighting Ward. After the fight fell through, Ward moved up to 175 to fight the perceived killer (at the time) Kovalev and ggg drug the #3 welterweight up not one but two weight classes for a fight. So who was looking for tough fights and who wasn’t.
What they said: anyone from 154-168. What they meant: anyone from 154-168 as long as we dictate all terms, as long as HBO approves and as long as your name isn’t Andre Ward.
Can’t really blame ggg, he made millions vs Canelo that he wouldn’t have made with a Ward loss on his resume.
LMFAO @ this lying low iq subhuman
https://www.boxingscene.com/golovkin...0-split--93258
GGG promoter laid out the terms, 164. 50/50 split.
Ward DUCKED.
https://youtu.be/uz1KPqmfRJk?si=ulIdIP8BOAkokD2_
11 min mark to 12 min mark....youtube kept the files.
Ward made and offer. And k2 had excuses and none of them were weight.
Loeffler out his own mouth said ward offered the fight 50/50 168.
Facts over opinions. I gave you video evidence of ggg promoter confirming an offer from ward.
Nothing left to debate.
GGG ducked
Actually GGG avoided Charlo. Turned him down twice, once in 2019 and again in 2021, and Tom Loeffler publicly said in 2019 that GGG would never fight Charlo or Andrade :lol1:
I want what your smoking.
Tom Loeffler said there was only one offer ever made for ggg vs ward and it came from team ward for a 168 fight. GGG own promoter said 164 was never spoke of. He said they rejected because they already signed for lemuiex
Facts over opinions
LMFAO @ this lying low iq subhuman
https://www.boxingscene.com/golovkin...0-split--93258
GGG promoter laid out the terms, 164. 50/50 split.
Ward DUCKED.