Thumb part on the belt line while the glove looked half low belt line and half low in general. Idk on video it looks belt line but if you freeze it on impact you can see it more?
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Nah he never pulled to the groin, he grabbed his left side where he was punched, he clearly had all the air knocked out of him, from a body shot, not a nut shot.
Its not what he grabbed it is how he initially reflexively reacted. You do not "have the air knocked out of you" when you are grimacing over an extended period. He never reacted like he had the air sucked out of him.
As you can see it is low, the thumb is on the belt, and the rest of the glove is under the belt.
Could have made a big mistake if the ref deducted any point as didnt look intentional
It's a hard call live. With the glove landing BELOW the belt, it leaves room for questioning. I don't know. It's hard to say and if Usyk lost because of that, there will be the other side saying he was robbed and lost to a low blow. I honestly rather have it be a low blow and require DuBois to land a more decisive KO punch than that.
That's sort of the way I see it, though at the time I thought it was a legal punch. That punch should have given Dubios a big edge in the fight because it really hurt Usyk. I didn't think Usyk could rally back from that punch. I thought it would take his legs and make him fold. He recovered really quickly!
So Usyk haters will say it was not. Usyk fans and anyone who understand a thing or two about boxing will say it was low and illegal punch. In the end of the day UK/Warren and their media needs something to talk about rather than Usyk made DD quit with jab…
Punch was on the belt line so far as I can tell by photos and replays I’m seeing on YouTube. In the post fight interview when Usyk’s people is are asking for clarification of what is a legal blow, he is told anything below the belly button is low, any lunch that touches the pants (trunks) is low. To my eyes it didn’t look low, it was right on the belt line, but refs are given the discretion to make the call.
AGAIN, hasn't landed yet. It's just touching the fabric. Once it hits actual body, more than half is in the green zone.
Imagine trying to explain how many knuckles dug into another person’s body and how it only touched the fabric lmfao next level cope here
Not surprised there are a lot of idiots here in denial of calling this a low blow that basically robbed another fighter of a win.. Really shows how trash the posters here are lol
No that's a clean body shot.. Look at Usyk's trunks for **** sake. Its way up covering his belly button.
Also if it was a low blow Usyk would have been grabbing his balls not his abdomen lol.
****ing shame Dubious got robbed of a KO win
This is the best thing that could have happened to Dubois. English fans can rally behind if it was low or not (it was) completely eclipsing the fact that he quit off a jab…for a second time
No that's a clean body shot.. Look at Usyk's trunks for fuck sake. Its way up covering his belly button.
Also if it was a low blow Usyk would have been grabbing his balls not his abdomen lol.
Fucking shame Dubious got robbed of a KO win
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No its not... I am not commenting on the punch... to each his own to opine, but Usyk's reaction is classic regarding a nut shot... The reflex action is to pull in the groin, not to touch the crotch, which happens much later. Ever been stung by a wasp and you see it on your hand a split second before? its the same reflex... you will pull the hand away before you do anything else, it is tactile... When something is hit, we try to pull it in... Another example, you smack me in the nose, Yes I will eventually put my hand to it... Much much later tough, initially I will anticipate another punch and try to cringe (unless I am a trained fighter).
Nah he never pulled to the groin, he grabbed his left side where he was punched, he clearly had all the air knocked out of him, from a body shot, not a nut shot.
People buying into the 'controversy' because of r_tarded commentators and Warren who would do anything for a rematch/money.
Look at the width of Dubois fist - where does it start and where does it end?
Is it okay to to kick someone in the nuts in MMA if the top of your foot hits their belly button?
Wilder, AJ and now Dubois joining the sook brigade. Sorry but affirmative action card has been revoked, no special treatment, true EQUALITY. Age of entitlement is over.
That photo is misleading, its before the moment of actual impact. Sure it slid up but at the point of impact it was legal. Usyk went down with his hands by his sides he never touched his crotch which is the instant reaction when a man is hurt in the nuts. Daniel was robbed.
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No its not... I am not commenting on the punch... to each his own to opine, but Usyk's reaction is classic regarding a nut shot... The reflex action is to pull in the groin, not to touch the crotch, which happens much later. Ever been stung by a wasp and you see it on your hand a split second before? its the same reflex... you will pull the hand away before you do anything else, it is tactile... When something is hit, we try to pull it in... Another example, you smack me in the nose, Yes I will eventually put my hand to it... Much much later tough, initially I will anticipate another punch and try to cringe (unless I am a trained fighter).
War Room's image is manipulated, see other thread. Look for instance at the belt line inside and outside his red circle.
:lol1::lol1: seriously? dammmnnnn! I was wondering why the point of contact looked so different. The punch is very hard to judge, the consensus seems to be that at the point of impact, it was a little low. I look at a few things:
1. Reaction. Liver shots are like "gunshots" a person initially freezes then the body kind of drops as it is overwhelmed with pain, to me they really do look like someone got shot.
2. Body shots vary, but the person has a tendency to try to stand up and either can, or drops
3. Groin shots are like Usyk's reaction... Probably his cup was tapped, as the shot did not appear to be in the groin. I know from experience that some of the worse groin shots are actually like a slap, and the person goes down like Usyk did... Less fetal position, more just rolling around lol.
https://youtu.be/cj-7HF2oQB8 At around the forty second mark, a liver shot... Notice the very slight delay, then the kind of stiffening you see when someone is "shot."
https://youtu.be/8oNM1j3i5-c at around the 19 second mark: Person tries to readjust, to stand up (even on the ground) no delayed reaction like the liver shot.
https://youtu.be/-Th_SwhJIhU at the fourteen second mark... Just like Usyk did... you don't crumple like a body shot, you bend, grimace, and then react to the pain... Notice the same dropping to the knees to "pull in groin" type of reflex.
He is training is he not or like =---> can you not see that?
Its not a scam, stop it. It's legit.
There is other photos showing lower how come you don't have them like they don't exist, Start at the bottom of the ark first contact not at the top or where it suits you, its got to be first contact that's the point that matters.
What matters is the point of punch impact not simply where the glove brushes on the way to impact. This photo is the most accurate.
I don't agree, looking at the videos and stills its borderline it travels up and pulls the cup into the nuts, it's very hard to call on the fly as it's only an inch in it. That photo is not the most accurate how you can state something like that there is no way of knowing where the impact was in the trajectory of the ark.