Finally steps up after drawing it for 4+ years and fights a post car crash, inactive, shot to pieces Spence and now he wants to pick and choose. His fans, the media acting like he just beat a peak Leonard or Hearns or some crap, get out of it!
Just waiting it out for weak and severely handicapped titlists so he can pick up a load of worthless belts and claim to be undisputed this and that. Its a total farce. He is an opportunist!
This guy will never take any risks and his fanbase will fully support it so they can sit still jacking him off. They don't want the whole jig to come to an end.
And when this cripple beater does retire don't suddenly act like you've been a fan of Boots the whole time just because he is the next African American with his 0 intact. You didn't want to support him before.
Its shameful and why the sports in such a dire state because of fans justifying cowardice, corruption and bs because it benefits their favourite fighters. You'd think the cvnts was getting paid for it or their family or something but nope.
Social media era where they want to claim every fvcker is the goat and p4p without having to take any risks.
You dismiss rankings when they don't suit your argument. Your level of engagement on this topic is sop****ric at best and my responses reflect the amount of effort warranted.
You missed my point about rankings, I never dismissed them I simply said they were relative based on the fighters fighting at that time... that happens to be a fact. There can be great variation between obtaining titles, ranks, belts based on your cohorts. I even gave you multiple examples! But you were to intent on seeing the differences between ranks and making the ridiculous assertion that ranks are the same meaning that there cannot be any variation between an undisputed who fought ATG competition and the same attainement of rank fighting lesser competitors.
Your response reflects ignorance. You don't even see the point because you have your hammer and everything therefore has to be a nail. It matters whom you beat to attain your undisputed status or otherwise that happens to be a fact. That is not dismissing anything.
idiots do not respect a difference of opinion and that makes you an idiot. Are you threatened by an alternative POV so much so that you make shiat up? Where have I ever said I so much as "disliked" Crawford you idiot. If I ever chose to "hate on" a fighter, much less call them a bum, there is no indication Crawford would be on that list... I will even give you an example, when making predictions about the upcoming fight between Crawford and Spence my prediction was as follows: "My heart says Crawford, my head says Spence." Does that sound like a hater?
Grow up... One can disagree, entertain other POV than your own. You made your point and I made mine, why does someone have to be the bad guy? Be an adult and stop acting like an idiot.
You dismiss rankings when they don't suit your argument. Your level of engagement on this topic is sophomoric at best and my responses reflect the amount of effort warranted.
Either that, or you're a casual hater clown.
That's what I'm going with.
idiots do not respect a difference of opinion and that makes you an idiot. Are you threatened by an alternative POV so much so that you make shiat up? Where have I ever said I so much as "disliked" Crawford you idiot. If I ever chose to "hate on" a fighter, much less call them a bum, there is no indication Crawford would be on that list... I will even give you an example, when making predictions about the upcoming fight between Crawford and Spence my prediction was as follows: "My heart says Crawford, my head says Spence." Does that sound like a hater?
Grow up... One can disagree, entertain other POV than your own. You made your point and I made mine, why does someone have to be the bad guy? Be an adult and stop acting like an idiot.
You keep using rankings, which are relative standards... When Hank Armstrong got titles... and call them what you want... he beat ATG fighters in each weight class f-i-g-h-t-e-r-s not f-i-g-h-t-e-r... That may be an extreme example, but it illustrates the big difference here in quality. ATG is a designation that fight pundits derive, so it has objective qualities.
Crawford is obviously talented, but it is fair to ask what quality opponents he beat to attain his status. And one more thing: I wouldn't pick on Crawford for the Spence fight alone... If Dan's comments were strictly about one fight, I don't believe in that... the fact is when we look at all his work and start to compare him to fighters like Floyd, who fought guys like Judah and Cotto, one should have some skeptacism.
Either that, or you're a casual hater clown.
That's what I'm going with.
Lipenets wasn’t Top 10 and Villa wasn’t Top 5.
He’s beaten no one. One ranked fighter (Villa) we have absolutely no idea if he’s even good at all.
Crawford is 3 weight Lineal Champion.
It’s chalk and cheese.
Lipinets was #9 by Ring, #7 with the WBO, #9 with the IBF #3 with the WBA
Villa #7 with Ring magazine
Oh Crawfords a million times more accomplished, no denying that.
For the record I do think he's an excellent fighter, a top p4p even.
But I am not buying these opponents are still close to being at the top of their game when he has fought them.
There is always something with this guy that stops him from fighting the best fighters at their best.
He'd probably beat them anyway but its like he has to wait until he is absolutely certain they carry no risk.
Its also a terrible look for Tank if this fight happens also because of the whole catchweight bs he had for Garcia now suddenly he can fight at Welter. Why drain Garcia then?
Its not just with "this guy" it tends to be a an outgrowth of several factors and I do not blame Crawford... The emphasis on the goose egg, as though it is a sign of greatness on its very own. The role promoters have taken in destroying big fights by marinating them (so to speak) and I would add... how despicable the judging in the sport has been and which is possibly getting worse, not better.
When the Ref was a judge I think it inspired fighters... Refs see things very clearly.
People said this about Crawford prior to Spence.
Resumes don't win fights.
But he has stopped Lipinets who was top 10 and Villa top 5 and that is enough to be Crawfords mandatory.
Lipenets wasn’t Top 10 and Villa wasn’t Top 5.
He’s beaten no one. One ranked fighter (Villa) we have absolutely no idea if he’s even good at all.
Crawford is 3 weight Lineal Champion.
It’s chalk and cheese.
I am dead serious I think its you lot all trolling acting like the guy was perfectly fine.
Car crash
Blacked out twice in his last two fights mid-fight...Yeah he won vs two slow as fvck guys with slab feet that throw 12 punches a round and a lot has happened since.
16 months inactivity.
The weight/not having to make it in so long.
Look at his training footage - Stiff as a board, slow, can't move laterally.
Walked to the ring with his face all puffy and his eyes all over the place looking like he'd just been hitting a bong hard in his dressing room.
His speech is awful - Can claim dentures, dentures don't make you forget what you was talking about.
Then the fight itself. No balance, couldn't follow basic instructions, was going down continually and couldn't take any sort of shot.
How much more proof or evidence do we need to just admit that this guy was far from his best and in fact in no fit state to fight let alone against an elite fighter.
I can not believe people are this desperate to give him credit that they're totally turning a blind eye to it all.
Crawford is 14-0 with 11 KOs against fighters ranked in the top 10 by the TBRB and/or The Ring. 8-0 vs the top 5, 6-0 vs the top 3.
You keep using rankings, which are relative standards... When Hank Armstrong got titles... and call them what you want... he beat ATG fighters in each weight class f-i-g-h-t-e-r-s not f-i-g-h-t-e-r... That may be an extreme example, but it illustrates the big difference here in quality. ATG is a designation that fight pundits derive, so it has objective qualities.
Crawford is obviously talented, but it is fair to ask what quality opponents he beat to attain his status. And one more thing: I wouldn't pick on Crawford for the Spence fight alone... If Dan's comments were strictly about one fight, I don't believe in that... the fact is when we look at all his work and start to compare him to fighters like Floyd, who fought guys like Judah and Cotto, one should have some skeptacism.
I literally picked him too win.
I said all this before the fight so if anyone sounds like an idiot its the person making out like I've shifted stances when I haven't
Feel free to post your quote where you said he’d dominate Errol Spence and make him look like a C level fighter.
The point you’re also missing is this fight happened on Spence’s terms. It happened when they wanted it to, not Crawford who was essentially froze out for years.
He has brain damage or something.
Look at him moving in straight lines, everytime he tries moving laterally his balance is all over the place.
There is a reason the Doctor stepped in at the end of round 4 before he was really taking a beating. Didn't even check his eyes or anything just asked him if he was okay several times. When you have ever seen that before?
They did that because they knew he shouldn't have been cleared to fight.
Spence is shot and shouldn't be fighting.
To me and I am not exaggerating when I say its on Ali levels of sadness. Its like watching Ali clearly riddled with Parkinsons taking a beating only fans didn't act like he was okay and something wasn't terribly wrong even back then before we had the knowledge we do now.
Does anyone here at all think regardless of resumes that Boots isn't at least the second best WW behind Crawford?
I don't see what the whole resume issue is. He is clearly levels above Lipinets and Villa who are solid fighters, he has made them look like they are terrible.
People said the same about Rigondeauxs lack of resume going into the Donaire fight. Fury and Klitschko etc etc
You can't be making out its a resume issue to then go on and fight Tank or even entertain the idea then suddenly change your mind and claim its about the money. Which is it?
Honestly still can't tell if you're trolling or not. What you're saying is so absurd, it's hard to believe you're serious
Does anyone here at all think regardless of resumes that Boots isn't at least the second best WW behind Crawford?
I don't see what the whole resume issue is. He is clearly levels above Lipinets and Villa who are solid fighters, he has made them look like they are terrible.
People said the same about Rigondeauxs lack of resume going into the Donaire fight. Fury and Klitschko etc etc
You can't be making out its a resume issue to then go on and fight Tank or even entertain the idea then suddenly change your mind and claim its about the money. Which is it?
For the record I do think he's an excellent fighter, a top p4p even.
But I am not buying these opponents are still close to being at the top of their game when he has fought them.
There is always something with this guy that stops him from fighting the best fighters at their best.
He'd probably beat them anyway but its like he has to wait until he is absolutely certain they carry no risk.
Its also a terrible look for Tank if this fight happens also because of the whole catchweight bs he had for Garcia now suddenly he can fight at Welter. Why drain Garcia then?
We can not be against Crawford vs Boots because of Boots lack of resume but be okay with him fighting Tank who I don't think has even beaten one top 10 ranked opponent and has never fought at the weight.
Where is the intrigue? A big elite welterweight vs some unproven lightweight who won't even fight any of the top guys at his weight, no intrigue. Crawford slaps the head off him.
Who the hell has Boots Ennis fought?
He’s 26 and beat his first ranked fighter recently.
People said this about Crawford prior to Spence.
Resumes don't win fights.
But he has stopped Lipinets who was top 10 and Villa top 5 and that is enough to be Crawfords mandatory.
Crawford is 35 and also at the end of his own career.
Fought Spence
Wants Charlo
Wants Canelo
Wants Tank
Whats the problem?
He wants Charlo coming off a loss and dropping down two weight divisions and wants a rather unproven Tank to move up two weight divisions, that is the problem.
People say Boots needs to fight someone but they're okay with little 5'5 Tank who has never fought anybody? Why, you're not getting any of the money or anything, it makes no sense to me.
He didn't fight the best WWs when it actually mattered.
And frankly I don't believe Spence is or even ever was the best.
Sure he may have been on merit but he was truthfully never on Buds level regardless whether he had a slightly better resume and more belts he was never the best. There is no doubt in my mind Boots would tear him up. I think Vergil would also but he is out.
Maybe there was a very brief time he was just after he beat Brook but that was like 10 yrs or something back now