List of 3 division lineal champions, boxing history

​ Educating this boxing ignorants is pretty useless. They dont even believe what "experts" say.. :lol1: Mate, I’ve forgotten more about boxing than you will ever know :lol1: There is a criteria that needs to be met to make a new Lineage. Do you even know what that criteria is? If so, how did Pacquaio-Bradley fit that? You tell me.

Again, I don’t care. How can someone coming off a loss, fight a guy who’s 2-1-1 in his last 4 for the vacant lineage? On top of the fact there are other current champions in the division at the time. How can that possibly make any logical sense? ​ Title belts have nothing to do with lineage, first off. There have been several world titlists that weren't even ranked in the top 10 by Ring or TBRB. Crawford vs Beltran was a lineal title fight even though Crawford only had the WBO belt, Beltran had no belts, and other guys had belts at the time. When Pacquiao lost to Floyd he didn't fall in the TBRB rankings. He was just behind Floyd before the fight and nobody jumped him after Floyd beat him. Floyd retired leaving Pacquiao as the #1 fighter. Bradley beat Vargas (who was 26-0 at the time) and stopped Rios (who was coming off a win over 33-0 Mike Alvarado), which elevated him to #2. #1 fought #2 with the title vacant, thus a new lineage. Educating this boxing ignorants is pretty useless. They dont even believe what "experts" say.. :lol1:

That’s because the Lineage wasn’t vacant then like it was at 147 in 2016 when Floyd retired. No the rule is they have to be “universally #1 and #2” which they weren’t. Hence why it can’t be for a new Lineage. Crawford v Beltran was for the vacant Ring and lineal titles, plus Crawford's WBO strap. The other belts were occupied. And you can pick apart several "universal" lineal titles. Fury is still claimed to be lineal at heavyweight by many even though he retired and TBRB and Ring Magazine now recognize Usyk as their champion.

How does Hopkins become lineal at MW? Beating a blown up WW who got his title from Joppy? Who did Floyd win his from? Baldomir with 9 losses? From a gift decision against Castillo? LOL We can pick apart a lot of lineal title holders and how they got there. Whether you like it or not, Pac is recognized as a lineal champ in 5 weight classes. Not really. Those Lineages were won and not vacant. Baldomir was the lineal champion because he beat Judah who beat Spinks and so on and so forth. You can’t “pick that apart” that is objective. Pacquaio-Bradley was supposedly for a new lineage, which is can’t be from any logical standpoint.

Title belts have nothing to do with lineage, first off. There have been several world titlists that weren't even ranked in the top 10 by Ring or TBRB. Crawford vs Beltran was a lineal title fight even though Crawford only had the WBO belt, Beltran had no belts, and other guys had belts at the time. When Pacquiao lost to Floyd he didn't fall in the TBRB rankings. He was just behind Floyd before the fight and nobody jumped him after Floyd beat him. Floyd retired leaving Pacquiao as the #1 fighter. Bradley beat Vargas (who was 26-0 at the time) and stopped Rios (who was coming off a win over 33-0 Mike Alvarado), which elevated him to #2. #1 fought #2 with the title vacant, thus a new lineage. That’s because the Lineage wasn’t vacant then like it was at 147 in 2016 when Floyd retired. No the rule is they have to be “universally #1 and #2” which they weren’t. Hence why it can’t be for a new Lineage.

Again, I don’t care. How can someone coming off a loss, fight a guy who’s 2-1-1 in his last 4 for the vacant lineage? On top of the fact there are other current champions in the division at the time. How can that possibly make any logical sense? How does Hopkins become lineal at MW? Beating a blown up WW who got his title from Joppy? Who did Floyd win his from? Baldomir with 9 losses? From a gift decision against Castillo? LOL We can pick apart a lot of lineal title holders and how they got there. Whether you like it or not, Pac is recognized as a lineal champ in 5 weight classes.

Again, I don’t care. How can someone coming off a loss, fight a guy who’s 2-1-1 in his last 4 for the vacant lineage? On top of the fact there are other current champions in the division at the time. How can that possibly make any logical sense? Title belts have nothing to do with lineage, first off. There have been several world titlists that weren't even ranked in the top 10 by Ring or TBRB. Crawford vs Beltran was a lineal title fight even though Crawford only had the WBO belt, Beltran had no belts, and other guys had belts at the time. When Pacquiao lost to Floyd he didn't fall in the TBRB rankings. He was just behind Floyd before the fight and nobody jumped him after Floyd beat him. Floyd retired leaving Pacquiao as the #1 fighter. Bradley beat Vargas (who was 26-0 at the time) and stopped Rios (who was coming off a win over 33-0 Mike Alvarado), which elevated him to #2. #1 fought #2 with the title vacant, thus a new lineage.

There are no rules cauuse it isn't really a thing Well yeah, there’s that. If we can just make it up as we go along than everyone is Lineal Champion. Why not have 5 Lineal Champions.

Every legit boxing source has Pac winning 5 lineal titles, except for you Manny haters, LOL. Again, I don’t care. How can someone coming off a loss, fight a guy who’s 2-1-1 in his last 4 for the vacant lineage? On top of the fact there are other current champions in the division at the time. How can that possibly make any logical sense?

Pacquaio’s 4, not 5. I don’t care how many times people act like Pacquaio-Bradley was for the vacant Lineage, it wasn’t. Every legit boxing source has Pac winning 5 lineal titles, except for you Manny haters, LOL.

Like I said, I don’t care who says that. To start a new Lineage, the rules are the universal #1 and #2 have to fight. How could that possibly be the case with Pacquaio and Bradley in 2016? Pacquaio was coming off a loss, Bradley was 2-1-1 in his last 4 fights and the division was wide open with other champions. There’s no logical way that could make sense. There are no rules cauuse it isn't really a thing

Mayweather was lineal going all the way back to baldomir. spinks-judah was for lineal and 3 belts. bradley wasnt lineal, pac lost to the lineal champ who retired. if Spence wasnt lineal with 3 belts of his own then freakinb bradley in 2016 damn sure wasnt lineal. JMM lost to Bradley

Mayweather was lineal going all the way back to baldomir. spinks-judah was for lineal and 3 belts. bradley wasnt lineal, pac lost to the lineal champ who retired. if Spence wasnt lineal with 3 belts of his own then freakinb bradley in 2016 damn sure wasnt lineal. TBRB had Pac and Bradley as the top 2 fighters at the time of their fight. That's largely where Pac's lineal claim at 147 comes from. I don't mind if people want to discount it but TBRB is the most trustworthy rankings we have available to us.

Pacquaio’s 4, not 5. I don’t care how many times people act like Pacquaio-Bradley was for the vacant Lineage, it wasn’t. salty black man cope

Damn those boxing historians/experts/writers/journalists who made Pacquiao the only 5 division lineal champion. :confused: Mayweather was lineal going all the way back to baldomir. spinks-judah was for lineal and 3 belts. bradley wasnt lineal, pac lost to the lineal champ who retired. if Spence wasnt lineal with 3 belts of his own then freakinb bradley in 2016 damn sure wasnt lineal.

Like I said, I don’t care who says that. To start a new Lineage, the rules are the universal #1 and #2 have to fight. How could that possibly be the case with Pacquaio and Bradley in 2016? Pacquaio was coming off a loss, Bradley was 2-1-1 in his last 4 fights and the division was wide open with other champions. There’s no logical way that could make sense. yeah pacquaio was not ever lineal at 147 He had his shot at mayweather's lineal title and lost.

Damn those boxing historians/experts/writers/journalists who made Pacquiao the only 5 division lineal champion. :confused: Like I said, I don’t care who says that. To start a new Lineage, the rules are the universal #1 and #2 have to fight. How could that possibly be the case with Pacquaio and Bradley in 2016? Pacquaio was coming off a loss, Bradley was 2-1-1 in his last 4 fights and the division was wide open with other champions. There’s no logical way that could make sense.

Pacquaio’s 4, not 5. I don’t care how many times people act like Pacquaio-Bradley was for the vacant Lineage, it wasn’t. Damn those boxing historians/experts/writers/journalists who made Pacquiao the only 5 division lineal champion. :confused:

Pacquaio’s 4, not 5. I don’t care how many times people act like Pacquaio-Bradley was for the vacant Lineage, it wasn’t.

you can add terry mcgovern. he knocked out frank erne (reigning lightweight champion). it wasn't sanctioned for the title but it was a knock out, not a newspaper decision.