This man has given everything to the sport since he was 15. He fought all the champions they said he wouldn't fight: Lara, GGG, Bivol, etc. And still people think he's afraid or "ducking" Benavidez. I think at this point in their careers Benavidez has the edge in the fight, but I don't Canelo is scared of this guy. I don't believe that Canelo would blanketly ignore an offer if there wasn't something else going on in the background. All these forum warriors be acting like they know what's really going on behind the scenes:rolleyes:. Watch Canelo sign a multi-fight deal, and Benavidez will be included. Also, this boy Bivol refused to fight Nelo at 175, so you can't say he's ducking him...
If Canelo chooses to fight Charlo, I think he’s evidently avoiding Benavidez. Not that he’s scared of him but he’s scared of losing to him and losing a share of the Mexican/Latino fanbase. If you’re gonna work with PBC, Benavidez is the obvious choice.
If he chooses to rematch Bivol instead, I’m cool with that, not majorly interested in seeing the rematch as I can’t see the result being different but I can respect a fighter trying take an L back.
See that's the issue canelo has been hated on way before Benavidez was even a contender.
It's just flat out hate I remember when everyone including max Kellerman said " no way Canelo ever faced huge 6'3 undefeated Callum Smith" who was the boogeyman at 168 well before Benavidez then canelo whoops him and excuses poured in.
Same ****t different toilet with you clowns.
What's the issue again? It seems Canelo doesn't want to fight Benavidez, that's just the truth and some of you are acting like we're attacking Canelo.
Canelo has fought some very good fighters. He's an ATG, first ballot future HOF fighter and a cash cow. He fought Trout, Lara, Jacobs and Callum Smith when all were considered dangerous fights for him to take. Heck, I even think Saunders and Plant were excellent wins! But he also did some funny business (as explained in my previous post) for the GGG fights, Kovalev (a brilliant cherry pick, definitely no hate from me), and seemingly now he doesn't want to fight Benavidez.
Again, this is not hating its just calling things as they are/seem. Some people can deal with it and others apparently can't.
Some of them even suggested that 40 year old Golovkin and John Ryder weren't the toughest fights available to him. They are insane.
You know if he fights Charlo, they will come up with crazy excuses like 'he's moving up in weight and has been inactive for 2 years' and 'why didn't he fight Benavidez instead?'.
There's always a ready made excuse
If he wins Charlo, Charlo is inactive and fought nobody
If he wins Benavidez, Benavidez is too big for 168 and needs to move up
if he wins Bivol at 168, it would be Bivol was drained
Problem is bivol doesn't want to risk anything he wants 68 so if he looses he still has his belt and can use the weight as en excuse that's obvious.
"Everybody knows we want Bivol, the rematch with Bivol. If the fight with Bivol don’t happen, then we’ll see . I’m able to fight everybody. Yeah, 175.... same rules, same terms, same everything. I just want it that way," Canelo said.
Sounds like its take it or leave it to me, not the way to negotiate a rematch i dont think
Yes he had the close fight with Ryder but Smith was the boogeyman no one wanted to face him being 6'3 powerful with some skill...canelo did and beat him easily.
Resumes can always be broken down and if we compare most current guys resumes like Crawfords to canelo it's laughable how weak buds resume is.
who ducked him? there werent any good figthers in the divison at the time. it was dead. groves who was second tier in the previous era being unable to beat guys like froch/badou jack vs smith who had never beaten a top 10 fighter decided the king of the division. thats pretty weak stuff. smith was not some ggg/beterbiev type of fighter. he was just a guy who had proven very little and still to this day has proven very little. kambosos for example has a much better resume than callum smith but no one calls him a boogeyman and no one did cause the competition was fierce in his division and he didnt have any hype like callum smith. the difference is just perception
canelo should just offer bivol an improved offer to fight at 175 and see if he takes it, he says he wont accept the same terms as first fight which is fair enough as he won that fight lol
Problem is bivol doesn't want to risk anything he wants 68 so if he looses he still has his belt and can use the weight as en excuse that's obvious.
quoting some hype clown like max kellerman? smith had a razor slim resume with 1 notable win over a good but not great fighter who was at the end of his career. he also had just lost to ryder in a very bad decision. people had written him off when canelo actually faced him.
Yes he had the close fight with Ryder but Smith was the boogeyman no one wanted to face him being 6'3 powerful with some skill...canelo did and beat him easily.
Resumes can always be broken down and if we compare most current guys resumes like Crawfords to canelo it's laughable how weak buds resume is.
canelo should just offer bivol an improved offer to fight at 175 and see if he takes it, he says he wont accept the same terms as first fight which is fair enough as he won that fight lol
See that's the issue canelo has been hated on way before Benavidez was even a contender.
It's just flat out hate I remember when everyone including max Kellerman said " no way Canelo ever faced huge 6'3 undefeated Callum Smith" who was the boogeyman at 168 well before Benavidez then canelo whoops him and excuses poured in.
Same ****t different toilet with you clowns.
quoting some hype clown like max kellerman? smith had a razor slim resume with 1 notable win over a good but not great fighter who was at the end of his career. he also had just lost to ryder in a very bad decision. people had written him off when canelo actually faced him.
What hate is he receiving exactly? People are calling out the fact he doesn't seem to want to fight Benavidez. That's not hate, it's just calling a spade a spade.
When Canelo was young he fought plenty of established guys (Mosley, Mayweather, Cotto) etc. He was younger, bigger and dangerous to all of them but they gave him a chance. He doesn't seem to be as generous at giving other worthy opponents a chance.
He delayed the fight against GGG until what should have been an epic trilogy culminated with a dud of a rubber match. And now he, seemingly, doesn't want to give what is his percieved best challenge at 168lbs a chance to fight for the undisputed crown.
See that's the issue canelo has been hated on way before Benavidez was even a contender.
It's just flat out hate I remember when everyone including max Kellerman said " no way Canelo ever faced huge 6'3 undefeated Callum Smith" who was the boogeyman at 168 well before Benavidez then canelo whoops him and excuses poured in.
Same shitt different toilet with you clowns.
This man has given everything to the sport since he was 15. He fought all the champions they said he wouldn't fight: Lara, GGG, Bivol, etc. And still people think he's afraid or "ducking" Benavidez. I think at this point in their careers Benavidez has the edge in the fight, but I don't Canelo is scared of this guy. I don't believe that Canelo would blanketly ignore an offer if there wasn't something else going on in the background. All these forum warriors be acting like they know what's really going on behind the scenes:rolleyes:. Watch Canelo sign a multi-fight deal, and Benavidez will be included. Also, this boy Bivol refused to fight Nelo at 175, so you can't say he's ducking him...
the fights you mentioned are fights he either lost or arguably lost. Lmao
I think it comes with the territory, we can’t say the hate for him is completely baseless at all. They call him clenelo because he got caught with an illegal substance. That type of BS is bound to haunt you for the rest of your career. He also waited ages for the GGG fight which 95% of boxing watchers thought he lost or maybe more than that.
I rooted for GGG but I like Canelo, but he’s got a lot of issues and diva moves that’s why he’s being hated.
What hate is he receiving exactly? People are calling out the fact he doesn't seem to want to fight Benavidez. That's not hate, it's just calling a spade a spade.
When Canelo was young he fought plenty of established guys (Mosley, Mayweather, Cotto) etc. He was younger, bigger and dangerous to all of them but they gave him a chance. He doesn't seem to be as generous at giving other worthy opponents a chance.
He delayed the fight against GGG until what should have been an epic trilogy culminated with a dud of a rubber match. And now he, seemingly, doesn't want to give what is his percieved best challenge at 168lbs a chance to fight for the undisputed crown.
This man has given everything to the sport since he was 15. He fought all the champions they said he wouldn't fight: Lara, GGG, Bivol, etc. And still people think he's afraid or "ducking" Benavidez. I think at this point in their careers Benavidez has the edge in the fight, but I don't Canelo is scared of this guy. I don't believe that Canelo would blanketly ignore an offer if there wasn't something else going on in the background. All these forum warriors be acting like they know what's really going on behind the scenes:rolleyes:. Watch Canelo sign a multi-fight deal, and Benavidez will be included. Also, this boy Bivol refused to fight Nelo at 175, so you can't say he's ducking him...
It's been like that for a while the only other guy who had canelo level Hate was probably Floyd but he's been more appreciated lately.
Canelo can't win here if he wants a rematch he has to conceded to a whole new weight according to the ppl here. And canelo is the only guy who can recieve hate for not wanting to drain an opponent. Somehow the wierdos here managed to spin it saying "well if canelo doesn't want bivol to drain himself to 168 then canelo is ducking" hahaaaha seriously you can't make that shitt it's beyond ridiculous.
But hey when you're the biggest star in the sport and the biggest money maker that's how it goes sometimes.