Anyone with a brain has known he has been ducking him for the last few years, despite all the excuses, but with him now almost certainly fighting Badou Jack next, surely the charade is finally over and its too blatant to deny?
Any Canelo fans still in delusional denial?
Tyson went to prison and didn't have the support canelo's has, he just beat up his #1 contender by a large margin, not even close. It's interesting that he looks old when he fights a boxer, he was 23 old when he fought Lara, how would you say he looked?
Canelo always looked more older than his age especially when he was younger. By saying older I mean his physical body was like a man in his teens.
Hmmm, when I was 32 I looked 19. I weighted almost the same. Some people age early, some later. I was at my peak at 40. I could date 21 year olds cause I looked young. That said, some age quicker. Look at Mike Tyson. No one could touch him before 23 NO ONE. After 25 he wasn’t the same.
Some men like Hopkins were good under 30 but far better above 30. Canelo peaked at 30 and is drastically falling now. I believe Canelo and Tyson were knocking out grown men at 15-16. They peaked early. Which means they fizzle out EARLY. Hopkins just got better and better.
Tyson went to prison and didn't have the support canelo's has, he just beat up his #1 contender by a large margin, not even close. It's interesting that he looks old when he fights a boxer, he was 23 old when he fought Lara, how would you say he looked?
Old? 32 years and he's old. That's an excuse, and if he feels old he should retire, vacate and let other youngers fighters move up the ladder. GGG, kovalev, Lara, Badou, they're old. By your logic, Crawford should be retired. What you're seeing in ginger performance now, it is not a decline, it is what he is, a good boxer with a granite chin, he is not an elite fighter, but his competition has gone up a notch or two, almost 9 years ago he fought fraud, Trout then Lara, you saw what happened. For the next decade he fought nothing but domestic-level fighters or washed up past their prime. Until he fought bivol, and of course he lost by a mile, and the judges almost gave him the fight. How old was fraud when he fought canelo? For how many years, canelo waited out ggg? He can't do this with benavidez, it's OK if he feels he can't overcome the American, by the way, he ain't Mexican he was born in the USA and his mother is Ecuadorian/Dominican, and his father is Mexican. So, he can drop the none Mexican opponent
Hmmm, when I was 32 I looked 19. I weighted almost the same. Some people age early, some later. I was at my peak at 40. I could date 21 year olds cause I looked young. That said, some age quicker. Look at Mike Tyson. No one could touch him before 23 NO ONE. After 25 he wasn’t the same.
Some men like Hopkins were good under 30 but far better above 30. Canelo peaked at 30 and is drastically falling now. I believe Canelo and Tyson were knocking out grown men at 15-16. They peaked early. Which means they fizzle out EARLY. Hopkins just got better and better.
Canelo is OLD. Why do people have a hard time believing that?
Old? 32 years and he's old. That's an excuse, and if he feels old he should retire, vacate and let other youngers fighters move up the ladder. GGG, kovalev, Lara, Badou, they're old. By your logic, Crawford should be retired. What you're seeing in ginger performance now, it is not a decline, it is what he is, a good boxer with a granite chin, he is not an elite fighter, but his competition has gone up a notch or two, almost 9 years ago he fought fraud, Trout then Lara, you saw what happened. For the next decade he fought nothing but domestic-level fighters or washed up past their prime. Until he fought bivol, and of course he lost by a mile, and the judges almost gave him the fight. How old was fraud when he fought canelo? For how many years, canelo waited out ggg? He can't do this with benavidez, it's OK if he feels he can't overcome the American, by the way, he ain't Mexican he was born in the USA and his mother is Ecuadorian/Dominican, and his father is Mexican. So, he can drop the none Mexican opponent
Maybe he didn't have to fight Lara but Lara made it happen with the call out. The Trout fight had to happen because of the Cotto win.
At this point, Canelo not fighting Benavidez looks like a major duck. Fan Friendly fight, lucrative, and weve never seen Canelo fight a volume puncher that is bigger than him. Great 50/50 fight on paper regardless of what we think is the out come.
And on the side note......why are you waiting on MvC4? I'd rather they make a modern remake of MvC2......if they do it correct that will get all the old heads and new generations money.
I don't know if ever get a modern remake of MvC2. If it did, it'd imply a retweak. And I think something would be lost in the process. Part of what makes Marvel vs. Capcom 2 "MAHVEL" is the sheer chaos of unbalanced ruthlessness that came as a byproduct of cramming all the legacy characters into one game and leaving it for the masses to fend for themselves. It was organic. Nowadays, everything gets crafted, balanced, and if it gets missed...patched. If fighting games were musical genres, the Marvel community would surely be street rap. Those old videos of the MVC2 days with the crowd and the hype look like something out of Eminem's "8 mile".
YES, iI have see him fight and all fighters have flaws, some more than others. I'll tell you this, canelo's would never fight Morrell Jr, and if he does he will be beat up to a pulp.
Canelo is OLD. Why do people have a hard time believing that?
There is no reason now Canelo should not fight Benavides. Charlo has not fought in almost two years and would have to come in weight. Benavides has all the momentum now.
I mean as a risk. He didn’t HAVE to fight Lara or Trout and gone straight for the paydays. I’d bet most people thought he wouldn’ fight them, and he did. Canelo is not ducking Benavidez, I’m sure he’ll fight him before he retires. But ducking? Naaaaaaah.
Maybe he didn't have to fight Lara but Lara made it happen with the call out. The Trout fight had to happen because of the Cotto win.
At this point, Canelo not fighting Benavidez looks like a major duck. Fan Friendly fight, lucrative, and weve never seen Canelo fight a volume puncher that is bigger than him. Great 50/50 fight on paper regardless of what we think is the out come.
And on the side note......why are you waiting on MvC4? I'd rather they make a modern remake of MvC2......if they do it correct that will get all the old heads and new generations money.
never been a Canelo fan or hater but what is this bs lately trying to capture belts at random weights vs old or shot fighter, or B class belt holders? just fight Benavidez. Morrell,Charlo ffs
he clearly is ducking benavidez and benavidez doesnt even look super great to me. canelo will only fight guys at the right time or guys with the right style. guys like ggg/benavidez ya gotta wait till they get old, guys like lara/bivol you can fight and just steal decisions if its close(oops bivol fight wasnt even close)
Lara is a lazy man with poor work rate, so it was easy to "beat" him on the score cards. Canelo doesn`t like the guys with the high work rate, because they make him look even worse than he is. He figured out that in Bivol fight forever.
Benavidez likes to be busy and he has a great stamina, so it is very likely that he beats Canelo so bad, that he even gets a decision ( like Bivol did).
Still don’t get it do you. By your standards ODH is a heavyweight.
Not my standards, he could weight 200 pounds but trim down to ww or whatever division he fought.
Hmmm, have you seen Morrel fight? Can you see his flaws? Or do you have to read someone else’s opinion. He has many flaws
YES, iI have see him fight and all fighters have flaws, some more than others. I'll tell you this, canelo's would never fight Morrell Jr, and if he does he will be beat up to a pulp.
No I didn't miss your point, if you train you might be a flyweight, but if you weight 250 you're a heavyweight, period. The ginger can fight at LHW with no problem, that is his natural weight give or take a pound.
Still don’t get it do you. By your standards ODH is a heavyweight.
I don't thinkhe has fought tomatoes can at all, other than his first fight. You know who fought tomatoes can on their first 14 fights? benavidez and canelo. benavidez started fighting the same competition Morell jr has faced, after his 15/16 fights, and canelo, please, just see what he goes after and supposedly he is the face of boxing. Check the record of those 9 boxers, DMJ has faced, they're about 166-18 and three were undefeated. Find me one, only one SMW with that kind of opposition, past or present in only 9 fights, just one. He would mop the floor with canelo, benavidez would be a little harder.
Hmmm, have you seen Morrel fight? Can you see his flaws? Or do you have to read someone else’s opinion. He has many flaws
LOL, no but you missed my point. I’m not going to explain it to you.
No I didn't miss your point, if you train you might be a flyweight, but if you weight 250 you're a heavyweight, period. The ginger can fight at LHW with no problem, that is his natural weight give or take a pound.
I’m a fan of boxing not boxers. Morell hasn’t done enough to mean anything YET.
Look at all the BIG talk about Munguia and Ramirez . I knew Bivol would whip Ramirez. I also new we would see what Munguia really was. Morells no different except he hasn’t fought enough. Let’s see if they put him in there with anything else but tomato cans.
I don't thinkhe has fought tomatoes can at all, other than his first fight. You know who fought tomatoes can on their first 14 fights? benavidez and canelo. benavidez started fighting the same competition Morell jr has faced, after his 15/16 fights, and canelo, please, just see what he goes after and supposedly he is the face of boxing. Check the record of those 9 boxers, DMJ has faced, they're about 166-18 and three were undefeated. Find me one, only one SMW with that kind of opposition, past or present in only 9 fights, just one. He would mop the floor with canelo, benavidez would be a little harder.
Yes, you're a heavyweight, a short heavyweight I might add, but a heavyweight nonetheless. Contact sport is about the weight, not how tall you are. Dwight Qawi fought at 175/190 and HW and he was like 5'6". By the way, are you really 5"2" and weight 250?
LOL, no but you missed my point. I’m not going to explain it to you.
I weight 250 and I’m 5’2. Does that make me a heavyweight too LOL.
Yes, you're a heavyweight, a short heavyweight I might add, but a heavyweight nonetheless. Contact sport is about the weight, not how tall you are. Dwight Qawi fought at 175/190 and HW and he was like 5'6". By the way, are you really 5"2" and weight 250?
I mean as a risk. He didn’t HAVE to fight Lara or Trout and gone straight for the paydays. I’d bet most people thought he wouldn’ fight them, and he did. Canelo is not ducking Benavidez, I’m sure he’ll fight him before he retires. But ducking? Naaaaaaah.
I haven't read the whole thread but my 2cents...
Maybe Canelo fights Benavidez before he retires. People were complaining how long it took for Pacquiao and Mayweather to fight and it made big bucks when it did.
Maybe Canelo wants to imitate this scenario. The thing is....Canelo isn't Mayweather.
Mayweather aged well because he always took good care of himself, didn't get into slugfests (GGG etc), didn't focus on power first but on skills (like Canelo has now, so more wear and tear) and he never drank unlike Canelo (seeing Canelo drunk in public is a bad look IMO..)
Waiting to make these fights happen will be a mistake, it favors his opponents, not him.
Lol what type of boxing fan are you.... He didn't have to fight Trout or Lara? So Canelo, or whatever boxer, doesn't have to fight their contemporaries?
Yes, Canelo prolonged the GGG by dropping his belt and choosing to fight 2 fighters that have ZERO chance at beating Canelo.
Saying Benavidez is not a challenge is an opinion at this point, not facts. The fights have to happen in the ring. Maybe we should just cancel boxing and go straight to you for all the answers since you clearly now all the results beforehand.
There will also be someone else? Yes there will be, this is a sport where there are always challanges and fights to be made or else the sport will die.
If all Boricua fans have the same thought process as you it is no wonder why the state of Puerto Rican boxing is basically non-existent now.
I mean as a risk. He didn’t HAVE to fight Lara or Trout and gone straight for the paydays. I’d bet most people thought he wouldn’ fight them, and he did. Canelo is not ducking Benavidez, I’m sure he’ll fight him before he retires. But ducking? Naaaaaaah.