Let’s put this to bed; For those saying Loma-Haney was a robbery, which 7 rounds did Loma win clearly?

I gave Loma 7-11 vs Lopez with 2 as a toss up but I liked what Loma did towards the end. Against Haney I gave him 1, 3, 5, 7, 8, 10, 11 I’m sure you missed out 11 as that was one of Loma’s only clear rounds? You could make an argument for Haney winning a lot of those rounds you gave Loma. How many of those were clear rounds? Almost none of the ones you gave him.

It’s neither here nor there is it. I don’t care whether Haney’s fans would call it a robbery, they might do they might not do, I don’t care. All I’m interested about is the 7 rounds Lomachenko won clearly. Which were if you care to mention?

You could make a strong argument for 6 in the Lopez fight, and I say this as someone who scored it for Lopez watching live. But Lopez may have won 7 In the Haney fight, I would flip 1 and 2 and 5 and 6 give Loma 9. I had Haney winning 1,4,5, and 12. Of course you did.Loma is still undefeated in your rose tinted lenses

I gave Loma 7-11 vs Lopez with 2 as a toss up but I liked what Loma did towards the end. Against Haney I gave him 1, 3, 5, 7, 8, 10, 11 I didn’t he nearly got knocked out in the 12th against Lopez. Haney won the 1st and 3rd but again it is a toss up.

I gave Loma 7-11 vs Lopez with 2 as a toss up but I liked what Loma did towards the end. Against Haney I gave him 1, 3, 5, 7, 8, 10, 11 You could make a strong argument for 6 in the Lopez fight, and I say this as someone who scored it for Lopez watching live. But Lopez may have won 7 In the Haney fight, I would flip 1 and 2 and 5 and 6 give Loma 9. I had Haney winning 1,4,5, and 12.

Loma didn’t fight for the first 5-6 rounds of the Lopez fight and nearly got knocked out in the 12th round and you still thought he didn’t lose :lol1::lol1:. Haney has no chance then. However , you said Loma won 6 clear rounds why don’t you name them? I gave Loma 7-11 vs Lopez with 2 as a toss up but I liked what Loma did towards the end. Against Haney I gave him 1, 3, 5, 7, 8, 10, 11

It’s neither here nor there is it. I don’t care whether Haney’s fans would call it a robbery, they might do they might not do, I don’t care. All I’m interested about is the 7 rounds Lomachenko won clearly. We agreed neither guy clearly won 7 rds. Or did we :dunno:

- - Poor Heinie in his signature career fight wins another runner/stinker/floater/sinker decision and booed by his own citizens. Boxrec scoring with near 500 fans and boxing officials has Loma 115-113 over Heinie. Loma more popular than ever ain't even American...only in boxing, folks!!!

I had it 8-4 Haney, but I am of the mind that this was a 4-4-4 fight. 4 clear Haney rounds. 4 clear Loma rounds. And 4 toss up rounds. I gave all 4 of them to Haney. Someone else could have given all 4 of them to Loma and had it 8-4 Loma. I would have vehemently disagreed with an 8-4 Loma card, but I don’t think I would have called it a robbery. And I think the business of boxing loves controversy and loves to stoke the cries of robbery. Gets people more interested. Keeps people invested. So the announcers stoke it. The personalities stoke it. Other boxers stoke it to boost their social media interactions. This was not a particularly controversial decision. This isn’t like a 9-3 Loma fight with blowout rounds in there. It was a 4-4-4 fight. But people love to whine.

We will have to assume the NSB Haney Campo would have not been ''it was a robbery'' if Haney lost. But you are right. Since no one can definitively point out 7 rds for either guy....it wasn't a robbery. Boxing fans being boxing fans, if an outcome isn't decisive, it's shady. Just like ''everyone'' is on roids/PEDs (except for the guy they root for). Just like when a fight fan says a fighter ducked another fighter without supplying a link to sup It’s neither here nor there is it. I don’t care whether Haney’s fans would call it a robbery, they might do they might not do, I don’t care. All I’m interested about is the 7 rounds Lomachenko won clearly.

. Surprised this troll thread is coming from an OG like you, Iron. I'm not.

Ok that’s great but I couldn’t care less about that. What I’m talking about is the idea of this fight being a robbery. For it to be a robbery there needs to be atleast 7 clear and definitive rounds that one of the fighters won. And since we are on page 10 and I’ve yet to hear of the 7 rounds then it doesn’t seem like that’s the case. We will have to assume the NSB Haney Campo would have not been ''it was a robbery'' if Haney lost. But you are right. Since no one can definitively point out 7 rds for either guy....it wasn't a robbery. Boxing fans being boxing fans, if an outcome isn't decisive, it's shady. Just like ''everyone'' is on roids/PEDs (except for the guy they root for). Just like when a fight fan says a fighter ducked another fighter without supplying a link to sup[port that claim.

He just completed a two-fight rematch clause with George Kambosos in Australia defending those titles. Goddamn! Give the man a break! Loma only has himself to blame for the loss. He should have left in all in the ring and not take rounds off by spotting Haney the early rounds and especially the 12th round. He has been given his chance. Now give someone more deserving and worthy a chance a now. Yeah Kambosos had a rematch clause, nothing Haney could do about that if he wanted to fight for the belts. The fight could have easily went for Loma, fights that close deserve rematches. If he goes and fights Tank or Shakur, I have no issue with it though, he should make the most $ he can

First of all, this fight isn't as bad as the GGG/Canelo 1 or Kov/Ward 1 or Fury/Wilder 1 fights, which were really really bad decisions and shows a pattern of North American Boxers getting the nod in North America. I can understand how someone would use the "Robbery" word. All of those fights happened in the US and fairly recently for someone to see a certain pattern. Reasons why someone might say it is a robbery: 1. 90% of the people watching the fight (multiple polls on the net and forums), including all of the commentors and people at ringside, thought Haney didn't win the fight. Anytime you have 90% of anything, which is very hard to do with polling as there is always 20% fanboys or people who hate a boxer, you know that the VAST VAST majority of people thought Haney didn't win the fight. And that includes experts, not just casuals. 2. Loma's camp specifically asked for Moretti to be removed as a Judge. And what do you know, he then scores round 10 (and rounds 7, 8, 9 & 12) for Haney. That is insane. Which means, when Loma was actually being the aggressor, controlling the ring, landing actual combos, landing more punches, throwing more etc, he gave 5 of the last 6 rounds to Haney, when the VAST majority of people would say Loma was controlling the fight by then. So anyone who scores the fight as crazy as Moretti scored it, should be ignored and never score a boxing match ever again. But the fact the Loma's camp specifically asked for him to be removed and he goes out and scored the fight that way, makes people think robbery and very suspicious. 3. CompuBox is a joke and should be replaced, but just using round 12 as an example, CompuBox had Loma landing more overall, more power shots, threw more punches etc. Both Ward (an actual boxing champion) and Kellerman (who I hate) had Loma winning round 12. All 3 judges gave it to Haney. If the judges scored it the way CompuBox and the commentators scored it, it would have been a majority draw. And that is ONLY using round 12 as an example. 4. There are videos complied that showed that Loma landing many more punches (Compubox sucks). 5. Loma landed many many more combos and significant shots throughout the fight. (snapping Haney's head back and actually putting him in danger of getting stopped in the 11th). Combos and snapping head shots to me out weigh body shots. If you don't believe me, if your friend is going to punch you in the face or body, which one you would choose! 6. Tim Cheatham gave round 3 to Haney, when CompuBox (the only thing we got freaking hell) had it decisively to Loma in power shots and more overall. Landing almost 2 times more power punches (10-6) in the round. If Tim scored that round like almost everyone else in the world did, he would have had at worst a draw on his card. Again, shows how crappy boxing judging is and why people claim "Robbery"! 7. A "Robbery" can be a close decision as well. If the VAST majority of people thought the wrong person won, which they did here as 90% thought Haney didn't win, that is a Robbery imo. You don't have to win the race by a lot to still claim a robbery. 8. All American judges scored the fight for an American in America where almost 90% of Americans thought the Russian won the fight. If this happened in reverse, but in Russia with ONLY Russian judges, where 90% of Russians thought the American won the fight, see how us Americans would react. We would of course say, that is a fairly judged fight! Freaking hell. I could go on much longer but this is long enough already. All of these reasons alone is suspicious, but when combined, I can definitely see why people would call this a freaking robbery! All this shows is boxing is waaaaaay too flawed and corrupt for anyone to really care about the results more than just something to be watchin on Saturday night for fun. But for Loma, who is one of the few good guys in boxing and with his dream being to unify the titles at 135, it really sucks (everyone knows he would dominate 126 & 130). So I feel bad for him more than anything. Haney has forever to have a great career, whereas Loma's time is running out. End of Rant.

It's a fact that most non-black boxing fans hate Devin Haney because they think he is a racist and prejudiced against white people after his "White boy" comment. . I would say that most white people would realise that sort of thing is just boxing trash talk, u hear that sort of stuff in all gyms i would say a lot, it would just be funny if he did get beat by a white boi if he did say it, live by the sword die by the sword plus he said he would easy beat this guy no problems too so expect some flack for this, the white guy who gets this said to him in a gym im sure will have just as smart quick answer back & on it goes, very rarely do people take it too seriously i think but u never know these says i guess

Over and over? they just had a nip and tuck fight. There's been more rematches than both of us could count in boxing after close fights. He just completed a two-fight rematch clause with George Kambosos in Australia defending those titles. Goddamn! Give the man a break! Loma only has himself to blame for the loss. He should have left in all in the ring and not take rounds off by spotting Haney the early rounds and especially the 12th round. He has been given his chance. Now give someone more deserving and worthy a chance a now.

Ok but that does that have to do with you being a little woke sissy pulling out the unnecessary race card? It's a fact that most non-black boxing fans hate Devin Haney because they think he is a racist and prejudiced against white people after his "White boy" comment. A comment that he has apologized for over and over again. Even though he has a white stepmom and two mixed raced siblings and yet still that has not kept Lomachenko's fans for not forgiving him after making such a statement.

Yes this true, if they didnt want that they would be haney fans! Thank you, you just made my point. Loma's fans like Malignaggi and Atlas are ranting like raving lunatics over one man's scorecard because his scorecard was off by just one point from the other two. However, it's all smoke and mirrors. The elephant in the room is that they don't want to fess up that Loma lost the fight simply because he just didn't try hard enough. However, they are just too piss poor hurt to admit it because the black guy won again. Vasiliy only fought in spurts. He took many rounds off and spotted Haney several rounds including the 12th; Where he took his foot off the gas pedal. Then subsequently boasted about it at the post-fight press conference how he held back and didn't leave it all in the ring.

ive contacted shakur via twitter and told him to come to this site & post his scorecard detailing which rounds he thought were clear wins for each guy, we need shakur to clear this one up for us

I had it 7-5 Loma. But the point is, he didn’t win 7 clear rounds, did he? So that’s why it’s not a robbery. I never thought it was..I just strongly believe Loma won.... That's all ... :cool: