Question about Loma Vs Haney

I like what you are saying...but the highlighted part is one factor in why boxing is failing at this present time. The only way to achieve such a milestone is to fight one fight per division. If you choose the weakest champ in each division you can sly a belt and then run for the next divisions weakest champ. I much prefer to see a fighter clean out a division of all top contenders...then move...much like inoue. That's certainly an acceptable way to demonstrate dominance in a division, but these days it takes too long to work your way through them all with all the fighters who don't actually want smoke. Loma chose to pursue undisputed in a division in which basically all the fighters have height and reach advantages on him though, and did manage to unify 3 belts already in that division, so I don't think he suffers much from that criteria either. The narrative that he ducked Haney, who was an unknown mandatory at the time, in favor of fighting an undefeated IBF champion with way more demonstrated knockout power is just asinine. Do people seriously think he should have fought the mandatory instead of going for undisputed? Not an apples to apples comparison. Loma turned pro at 25 and went straight to a 10 rounder then a title shot. Haney and Davis turned pro as teenagers and fought 4 and 6 rounders against journeymen with upside down records. It's not, but there's a reason that all of those things happened. Honestly I think Haney is due way more respect because he really did it the hard way, and really earned what he's got. But Loma got two Olympic gold medals and that gave him the fast track. Those aren't exactly easy to come by. Most gold medalists end up world champ eventually.

A little perspective on Loma's career. A lot of posters have been talking about how he's not that great because he's only fought 19 times. But almost half those fights have been against world champions, only 4 haven't been title fights. His opponents have a combined record of 486-43-14, averaging 27-2-1 rounding to the nearest whole number. To put that in perspective, Devin Haney's opposition is 417-165-21, for an average record of 14-6-1, and Tank Davis is at 492-125-15, averaging 17-4-1. Loma has fought top competition for almost the entirety of his professional career, with only a few fighters that weren't ranked at the time he fought them. Yes, he was fast tracked because he was perhaps the most successful amateur boxer of all time. But he's accomplished a lot, such as tying for fastest to world champion, and being the fastest three division world champion in history. That's why focusing on certain numbers really doesn't tell the whole picture. Like, people make a huge deal of Mayweather putting together a 50-0 record, which is a great achievement, but combat sports enthusiasts know there's a fighter who achieved a run of 100 consecutive wins with no losses. ​​​​​​​Whoever wins this will really have a solid win for their resume. I'm personally really looking forward to this one. Not an apples to apples comparison. Loma turned pro at 25 and went straight to a 10 rounder then a title shot. Haney and Davis turned pro as teenagers and fought 4 and 6 rounders against journeymen with upside down records.

I like what you are saying...but the highlighted part is one factor in why boxing is failing at this present time. The only way to achieve such a milestone is to fight one fight per division. If you choose the weakest champ in each division you can sly a belt and then run for the next divisions weakest champ. I much prefer to see a fighter clean out a division of all top contenders...then move...much like inoue. I like to see the fighters clean out the division too! Unfortunately not all those other titleholders were willing to fight at the lower weights. We all know Loma is a 130 pounder. :boxing: Sometimes the stars don’t align just right.

A little perspective on Loma's career. A lot of posters have been talking about how he's not that great because he's only fought 19 times. But almost half those fights have been against world champions, only 4 haven't been title fights. His opponents have a combined record of 486-43-14, averaging 27-2-1 rounding to the nearest whole number. To put that in perspective, Devin Haney's opposition is 417-165-21, for an average record of 14-6-1, and Tank Davis is at 492-125-15, averaging 17-4-1. Loma has fought top competition for almost the entirety of his professional career, with only a few fighters that weren't ranked at the time he fought them. Yes, he was fast tracked because he was perhaps the most successful amateur boxer of all time. But he's accomplished a lot, such as tying for fastest to world champion, and being the fastest three division world champion in history. That's why focusing on certain numbers really doesn't tell the whole picture. Like, people make a huge deal of Mayweather putting together a 50-0 record, which is a great achievement, but combat sports enthusiasts know there's a fighter who achieved a run of 100 consecutive wins with no losses. ​​​​​​​Whoever wins this will really have a solid win for their resume. I'm personally really looking forward to this one. I like what you are saying...but the highlighted part is one factor in why boxing is failing at this present time. The only way to achieve such a milestone is to fight one fight per division. If you choose the weakest champ in each division you can sly a belt and then run for the next divisions weakest champ. I much prefer to see a fighter clean out a division of all top contenders...then move...much like inoue.

75% of the people on here DKSAB anyway. They're just D riders of fighters and even more hilarious they ride the D of promotional outfits and managers of boxers. That's exactly what's wrong with this board, too.

75% of the people on here DKSAB anyway. They're just D riders of fighters and even more hilarious they ride the D of promotional outfits and managers of boxers. Unfortunately you are right! It’s probably 85% really! Gotta just laugh it off sometimes!:boxing:

A little perspective on Loma's career. A lot of posters have been talking about how he's not that great because he's only fought 19 times. But almost half those fights have been against world champions, only 4 haven't been title fights. His opponents have a combined record of 486-43-14, averaging 27-2-1 rounding to the nearest whole number. To put that in perspective, Devin Haney's opposition is 417-165-21, for an average record of 14-6-1, and Tank Davis is at 492-125-15, averaging 17-4-1. Loma has fought top competition for almost the entirety of his professional career, with only a few fighters that weren't ranked at the time he fought them. Yes, he was fast tracked because he was perhaps the most successful amateur boxer of all time. But he's accomplished a lot, such as tying for fastest to world champion, and being the fastest three division world champion in history. That's why focusing on certain numbers really doesn't tell the whole picture. Like, people make a huge deal of Mayweather putting together a 50-0 record, which is a great achievement, but combat sports enthusiasts know there's a fighter who achieved a run of 100 consecutive wins with no losses. ​​​​​​​Whoever wins this will really have a solid win for their resume. I'm personally really looking forward to this one. 75% of the people on here DKSAB anyway. They're just D riders of fighters and even more hilarious they ride the D of promotional outfits and managers of boxers.

A little perspective on Loma's career. A lot of posters have been talking about how he's not that great because he's only fought 19 times. But almost half those fights have been against world champions, only 4 haven't been title fights. His opponents have a combined record of 486-43-14, averaging 27-2-1 rounding to the nearest whole number. To put that in perspective, Devin Haney's opposition is 417-165-21, for an average record of 14-6-1, and Tank Davis is at 492-125-15, averaging 17-4-1. Loma has fought top competition for almost the entirety of his professional career, with only a few fighters that weren't ranked at the time he fought them. Yes, he was fast tracked because he was perhaps the most successful amateur boxer of all time. But he's accomplished a lot, such as tying for fastest to world champion, and being the fastest three division world champion in history. That's why focusing on certain numbers really doesn't tell the whole picture. Like, people make a huge deal of Mayweather putting together a 50-0 record, which is a great achievement, but combat sports enthusiasts know there's a fighter who achieved a run of 100 consecutive wins with no losses. ​​​​​​​Whoever wins this will really have a solid win for their resume. I'm personally really looking forward to this one. Great answer/comment! Put into perspective perfectly :boxing:

A little perspective on Loma's career. A lot of posters have been talking about how he's not that great because he's only fought 19 times. But almost half those fights have been against world champions, only 4 haven't been title fights. His opponents have a combined record of 486-43-14, averaging 27-2-1 rounding to the nearest whole number. To put that in perspective, Devin Haney's opposition is 417-165-21, for an average record of 14-6-1, and Tank Davis is at 492-125-15, averaging 17-4-1. Loma has fought top competition for almost the entirety of his professional career, with only a few fighters that weren't ranked at the time he fought them. Yes, he was fast tracked because he was perhaps the most successful amateur boxer of all time. But he's accomplished a lot, such as tying for fastest to world champion, and being the fastest three division world champion in history. That's why focusing on certain numbers really doesn't tell the whole picture. Like, people make a huge deal of Mayweather putting together a 50-0 record, which is a great achievement, but combat sports enthusiasts know there's a fighter who achieved a run of 100 consecutive wins with no losses. ​​​​​​​Whoever wins this will really have a solid win for their resume. I'm personally really looking forward to this one.

I think TR would try to make fight with Shakur to "pass the torch"... If I were Loma, I would go after a Tank fight because that's where the $$ would be and win or lose he retires after that a richer man Wish it was a few years ago:boxing:

I think TR would try to make fight with Shakur to "pass the torch"... If I were Loma, I would go after a Tank fight because that's where the $$ would be and win or lose he retires after that a richer man

Nah he’ll fight Shakur. I think he’ll possibly fight him for a vacant belt if he loses too. Loma is genuinely the type of fighter who’ll fight anyone I reckon. I favour Haney by decision but a Loma would be better for the division because there’s no way Haney is staying at 135 to fight Shakur IMO.

We are blessed to see this fight this weekend! May the best man win! Now, hypothetically speaking, if Loma wins the Undisputed Championship, do you think he will retire as he has attained his final goal? Opinions and comments appreciated!:boxing: I think it's definitely possible. The way he's talking about his country and wanting to be home with his family, that this was his ultimate goal, I wouldn't be shocked if he retires should he win. People have been asking him about what's next if he wins, and he just mentions his family and the war back home. Personally, I want to see him fight Tank after this. I don't want to see Loma and Shakur next, if he wins. I want to see him fight Tank because I've wanted to see that fight for almost seven years now, and Tank's team sound as if they are finally keen on making that fight a reality.

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I think they’ll want Loma/Shakur but it’ll ultimately be up to Loma, I’d assume. What else would he have to prove/accomplish?

I think Top Rank would try to make him an offer to fight Shakur Stevenson, to raise his profile. if he actually moved down to 130 like he has stated, he could do what he wanted against Teo which is unifying all the world titles in his division.