He is considered the best. Based on beating Klitschko 7 years ago? Based on beating Whyte? Lol, even 100 old Povetkin beat Whyte. he beat him better than Fury did. Based on beating one-trick-pony 3 times?
It is time to wake up. Usyk, Joshua, DDD, Zhang, Ruiz, Hrgovic, Sanchez, many other guys are waiting that Fury gets some balls and fights somebody relevant.
It was a nothing fight until the knock-out. If you was to take away the knockout, was Tyson Fury beating up Whyte before that point? No.
Show me, try and show me footage from Whyte vs Fury prior to the knock-out were Fury was toying with Whyte?
Fury was winning the fight, but I would not go as far as stating that he was toying with Whtye.
Fury's last two fights and performances have not been at a super high level. But as I have stated in my prior posts, Fury does have a tendency to fight to the level of his opponent 'Fury will and has always raised his game vs Higher level fighters' I can say will, because that is what his performance history displays etc.
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It is always time to question whether h2h he is the best! Nobody is saying furys is the best because of his resume, it isn't really the best. It's fury perceived skillset.
So in that sense fury needs to take on all comers, to challenge h2h ability
Fury did not toy with Whyte, it was a underwhelming fight and performance from Fury 'Until the knock out'.
No hardcore Joshua fan claims that Whyte is one of Joshua's best wins 'Joshua was not even a Champion at that stage of his career'.
But Joshua did actually beat a better version of Whyte compare to Fury 'Whyte could actually move back then, and was clearly a better conditioned fighter'.
By the time Whyte eventually got his title fight vs Fury, I have always been adamant that he was burnt out i.e I was actually supporting and backing Tyson Fury over Whyte in that match up'.
Fury's last two fights have barely been at World level, and skill for skill they have not really been great performances in my opinion.
Whyte was in the fight vs Fury until the knock-out and astonishingly even though his movement is way below par 'He was still able to find Fury'.
The Chisora who fought Fury was also possible the worst version of Chisora for close to a decade 'Chisora has clearly not trained with the intention of 1000% winning since his fights against Usyk & Parker. Because the Chisora's brand was not about winning, it was about being involved in dramatic action packed fights 'And attracting the UK casual fans to enjoy a night out singing songs'.
That is no disrespect towards Chisora, but essentially that is the game he has been running since leaving Team Hayemaker.
Note: Tyson Fury does have a tendency to fight to the level of his opponent. So I am aware that against a higher level opponent, Fury will raise his game 'The history of his performances displays this trait'. Even still regardless his last two fights have barely been at World level, and I don't think he has produced any performance since Wilder II 'Which suggest that he is miles better than his nearest competition on current form'.
But on merit, Tyson Fury is and should still be ranked as the number 1 Heavyweight 'Tyson Fury still has the two best wins on his resume, out of all active heavyweights'.
Whyte was in the fight with Fury? There goes all of your credibility in one post. Wow. Get your eyes checked.
i really thought you’re going to have a solid point until you said Povetkin beat Whyte better than Fury lol. Povetkin was losing the first fight against Whyte until he landed a hell of an uppercut… and he lost the rematch while fury toyed with Whyte without losing a single round until he koed him. I dont highly rate Whyte at all, but a lot of fans were asking fury to fight him since he was his mandatory and that he deserve his shot at the title, now it is used against fury because he koed him with ease? AJ fans even considered him one of his best wins now their changing their tunes… seems AJ is even on the way of rematching him..
i get the blame for fury for the fury-usyk downfall but lets not rewrite history…
fury fighting chisora again was BS but it’s also the same chisora usyk struggled with.lol
so idk top 1 & 2 in the heavyweight division are fury and usyk, that’s interchageable..
they’re both at the top regardless of what u feel.
Fury did not toy with Whyte, it was a underwhelming fight and performance from Fury 'Until the knock out'.
No hardcore Joshua fan claims that Whyte is one of Joshua's best wins 'Joshua was not even a Champion at that stage of his career'.
But Joshua did actually beat a better version of Whyte compare to Fury 'Whyte could actually move back then, and was clearly a better conditioned fighter'.
By the time Whyte eventually got his title fight vs Fury, I have always been adamant that he was burnt out i.e I was actually supporting and backing Tyson Fury over Whyte in that match up'.
Fury's last two fights have barely been at World level, and skill for skill they have not really been great performances in my opinion.
Whyte was in the fight vs Fury until the knock-out and astonishingly even though his movement is way below par 'He was still able to find Fury'.
The Chisora who fought Fury was also possible the worst version of Chisora for close to a decade 'Chisora has clearly not trained with the intention of 1000% winning since his fights against Usyk & Parker. Because the Chisora's brand was not about winning, it was about being involved in dramatic action packed fights 'And attracting the UK casual fans to enjoy a night out singing songs'.
That is no disrespect towards Chisora, but essentially that is the game he has been running since leaving Team Hayemaker.
Note: Tyson Fury does have a tendency to fight to the level of his opponent. So I am aware that against a higher level opponent, Fury will raise his game 'The history of his performances displays this trait'. Even still regardless his last two fights have barely been at World level, and I don't think he has produced any performance since Wilder II 'Which suggest that he is miles better than his nearest competition on current form'.
But on merit, Tyson Fury is and should still be ranked as the number 1 Heavyweight 'Tyson Fury still has the two best wins on his resume, out of all active heavyweights'.
He is considered the best. Based on beating Klitschko 7 years ago? Based on beating Whyte? Lol, even 100 old Povetkin beat Whyte. he beat him better than Fury did. Based on beating one-trick-pony 3 times?
It is time to wake up. Usyk, Joshua, DDD, Zhang, Ruiz, Hrgovic, Sanchez, many other guys are waiting that Fury gets some balls and fights somebody relevant.
i really thought you’re going to have a solid point until you said Povetkin beat Whyte better than Fury lol. Povetkin was losing the first fight against Whyte until he landed a hell of an uppercut… and he lost the rematch while fury toyed with Whyte without losing a single round until he koed him. I dont highly rate Whyte at all, but a lot of fans were asking fury to fight him since he was his mandatory and that he deserve his shot at the title, now it is used against fury because he koed him with ease? AJ fans even considered him one of his best wins now their changing their tunes… seems AJ is even on the way of rematching him..
i get the blame for fury for the fury-usyk downfall but lets not rewrite history…
fury fighting chisora again was BS but it’s also the same chisora usyk struggled with.lol
so idk top 1 & 2 in the heavyweight division are fury and usyk, that’s interchageable..
they’re both at the top regardless of what u feel.
He is considered the best. Based on beating Klitschko 7 years ago? Based on beating Whyte? Lol, even 100 old Povetkin beat Whyte. he beat him better than Fury did. Based on beating one-trick-pony 3 times?
It is time to wake up. Usyk, Joshua, DDD, Zhang, Ruiz, Hrgovic, Sanchez, many other guys are waiting that Fury gets some balls and fights somebody relevant.
Im not British and all those guys you mentioned are very incomplete boxers. Fury is extremely complete more than ALL OF THEM. That said, Usyk I think will give him some trouble with movement but he’s no power threat. Otto is one hell of a fighter that matches up well with Fury. No one seems to call him out. Also, Wilder would whip ALL those guys you mentioned even being a “one trick pony”.
Maybe in your derranged mind or the TS who seems to have a lot of awful takes. Fury is clearly #1. Usyk went life and death with Chisora. Struggled in his HW fight previous to that. When Fury beats Usyk this winter I wonder who the new boogeyman will be.
The Fury that fought Wilder in the 2nd fight can destroy any HW of all time.
Nothing like that happened. Usyk beat Chisora clearly and he beat Joshua twice. Usyk also beats all important guys at cruiserweight.
Usyk is clearly more proven fighter than Fury
Look at this post. Look at the bizarre projections about **** and the other references. Look at the last sentence. The internet has brought on mental illness in so many people. It's crazy. THIS IS A BOXING WEBSITE JABRONI. GET SOME HELP.
the Fury fan boys are the same beta cuckold males that brought on globo hom0 feminism. these "men" exist and they are fury fan boys.
are you butt hurt?
Obviously Usyk is the best Hw. Itâs not a discussion. Head to head you can imagine whatever you want. Some nobody only you know could have the skills to beat Usyk or Fury according to your eyes. But the reality? Usyk > Fury. Easy.
Maybe in your derranged mind or the TS who seems to have a lot of awful takes. Fury is clearly #1. Usyk went life and death with Chisora. Struggled in his HW fight previous to that. When Fury beats Usyk this winter I wonder who the new boogeyman will be.
The Fury that fought Wilder in the 2nd fight can destroy any HW of all time.
Fury's fanboys blew up Wilder to be an ATG. They jockrider Wilder to the moon whilst jacking off to BLACKED.com
now we have Fury who bullied Wilder 3X and doesn't have to fight anyone else. Cus Wilder OMG ATG remember? Disastrous heavyweight situation.
Beta male simps.
LGBTQ, feminist rights, cuckoldry all brought on by the same Fury fan boys.
Look at this post. Look at the bizarre projections about porn and the other references. Look at the last sentence. The internet has brought on mental illness in so many people. It's crazy. THIS IS A BOXING WEBSITE JABRONI. GET SOME HELP.
Fury first became a world champion back in 2015. Then got banned a few years for failing PED tests, but came back to become champ again.
But all things considered, since 2015, Fury has only defended the world title once against someone he never fought before - Dillian Whyte.
In other words it's been 8 years since he first won a title, but he only ever had 1 title defense against a new opponent.
Obviously Usyk is the best Hw. It’s not a discussion. Head to head you can imagine whatever you want. Some nobody only you know could have the skills to beat Usyk or Fury according to your eyes. But the reality? Usyk > Fury. Easy.
fury is the best because nobody else has proved they are better
Look at AJ and Ruiz. Ruiz ONLY looked good in one fight because AJ sucked so bad he made Ruiz look good. Truth is AJ was never as good as he was sold to be and a B- level guy like him made him look trash.
Yeah man, i really miss elite fights like Wlad vs Leapai, those were the days....
Wladimir Kiltschko as Champion took on all comers, if they were ranked or made mandatory then Kiltschko would fight them 'Tyson Fury as a Champion has not been conducting himself in this manner. This is proven by the fact that it is extremely difficult for his nearest competition to actually fight him'.
Kiltschko also without much hesitation fought and beat my fighter David Haye. Who on the sly was the Undisputed Cruiser-weight World Champion, just like Usyk.
Tyson Fury as a Champion, has not taken on all comers and he has backed out of a fight twice vs Usyk.
Wladimir Kiltschko achieved a total of 24 successful Championship defenses 'And won 26 Championship level fights, from a total of 29 Championship level fights'.
Fury's raw statistics in comparison are not really registering on the radar with the other all-time great Champions.
If Wladimir Kiltschko was still a Champion within this era, I think he would of fought Usyk without hesitation and enjoyed the challenge.
You are attempting to mock Kiltschko for fighting Leapai 'But at the time when Tyson Fury himself fought Kiltchko, universally Fury was not a highly regarded fighter on the world stage'.
Check yourself mate, and take note 'That is how great Champions conduct themselves, they take on all comers. And Wladimir Kiltschko was a great Champion, and now during this Fury reign people are actually yearning for a Champion that desires and conducts themselves like a Champion'.
For a great as a fighter Tyson Fury is and has been 'He has not been a great Champion'.
Yes...
Toyed with Wlad
Toyed with Chisora x3
Toyed with Whyte without moving out of 1st gear
Toyed with Wilder and went toe to toe with the greatest puncher of this generation and possibly history
The next best man is Usyk and he's only beat a bodybuilder and Chisora.
It's not just who Fury beat it's also how he beat them. He'd batter AJ.
who has wilder beaten though? he doesnt even have a win as good as zhang over joyce. hes so overrated its silly. champ level for 8 years now with 2 top 10 wins. its as if the more bums he fights the better he gets in people's minds insead of people asking themselves wait a second why isnt this guy fighting anyone if hes so great and so dangerous? 8 years. there is taking it slow and then there is simply not doing it and hes not doing it. even the fury fight was when fury was at his worst and wilder himself said that. i understand hype if a guy looked invincible but wilder never did. i understand hype if a guy hadnt been beaten 3 straight times but wilder did that. why the hype still? no resume to fall back on now.
Am going to have to disagree with you.
It's not that the Heavyweight division sucks, it's because giant sized, Super Heavyweights have taken over the division and the smaller heavies can't compete. Heavyweight has had this problem since the Lennox Lewis days.
I can see that but not sure the fighters from today can really size up with yesteryears
People think Fury is great but that is only because the heavyweight division sucks balls
Never liked him , never will
Oh , and the same goes for the other two ; AJ and Wilder
Am going to have to disagree with you.
It's not that the Heavyweight division sucks, it's because giant sized, Super Heavyweights have taken over the division and the smaller heavies can't compete. Heavyweight has had this problem since the Lennox Lewis days.
Fury is a good boxer with skills. He has size and is resilient. I don't get these last few fights and then avoiding Usyk. I hope he just not waiting around for a AJ fight so he can cash out. It will be a waste of talent.
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