Fury is undisputed number 1 and AJ is no worse than 4th best followed by Dubois and Joyce. Why so much hate for Britain when they dominate the hw scene. The best hw outside of the UK is too scared to fight the top dog unless he gets the A side when everyone and his mum knows he’s not a draw.
we all know the heavyweights have been in decline for over 20 years now....but really isn’t that boxing in general and it’s nowhere near the level of when Lennox Lewis was champion.
as for wilder let’s see if he can take joshua shots so it works both ways .......I’m not denying that wilder if he lands that punch will knock joshua into orbit....of course that can happen but wilder really is a one trick pony who has serious fundamental flaws in his game and has been elevated way higher than he should be.
We can all look great against an helenius.........but wilder doesn’t seem to take on the more challenging fighters and that has been the case for all his career......asi said protected.
Joshua although flawed still faces the very best of the division and the only fighter that is certainly above him is usyk .....fury until he faces him is not a certainty.
That's just it, AJ doesn't fully commit.
And he will be fully aware of the danger in that right hand.
Hopefully it happens
No English boxer comes close because he hasn’t fought the best ones , Joyce , Dubois, Joshua , are names absent from his resume .
Wilder is number 2 because he also hasn’t much competition over here yet and hasn’t fought the top,U.S guys either so ? I’d say Anderson does him in if they fought next year .
it’s easy to claim your the top guy when you don’t fight the rest of the guys .
Fury is damaged goods without taking a loss until he steps it up he’ll only be the fantasy fight champion on here , his supporters obviously put that over real fights and resumes . Lol
Don’t need to see two people fight to know the outcome. Well, some people do
I've said since day 1
Wilder was and still is a 1 trick pony.
He has the perfect last name.
Thing is, everyone knows his game plan and he still wins (with the exception of Fury of course)
I don't see anyone smaller than him beating him since it hasn't happened yet.
AJ before Ruiz, I'd say yes.
After Ruiz, hell fcking no.
Wilder isn't afraid to mix it up and eventually the right will land.
I'm more of an AJ fan but he is gun shy.
Wilder is the wrong guy to be timid with.
And once he's hurt, it's over.
Wilder has proven to get up and at least try to fight on.
It's an abysmal HW era we are in.
I don't see it ending anytime soon
we all know the heavyweights have been in decline for over 20 years now....but really isn’t that boxing in general and it’s nowhere near the level of when Lennox Lewis was champion.
as for wilder let’s see if he can take joshua shots so it works both ways .......I’m not denying that wilder if he lands that punch will knock joshua into orbit....of course that can happen but wilder really is a one trick pony who has serious fundamental flaws in his game and has been elevated way higher than he should be.
We can all look great against an helenius.........but wilder doesn’t seem to take on the more challenging fighters and that has been the case for all his career......asi said protected.
Joshua although flawed still faces the very best of the division and the only fighter that is certainly above him is usyk .....fury until he faces him is not a certainty.
Fury is undisputed number 1 and AJ is no worse than 4th best followed by Dubois and Joyce. Why so much hate for Britain when they dominate the hw scene. The best hw outside of the UK is too scared to fight the top dog unless he gets the A side when everyone and his mum knows he’s not a draw.
All you have is Fury. You can ball the rest of those bums up and throw them in the garbage.
Lennox is an atg hw why would you even bash him? That shows how little you know about the sport
And while Lennox did represent the UK, let us not forget; Lennox first learned how to box in Canada, and was largely a product of the CANADIAN amateur system.
As of right now I see only Fury and I think he’s one the all time greats and I’m American. No other English boxer comes close. Same goes for Americans. Wilder is number 2.
Wilder ? knocking over cans is easy which is what wilder has done his whole career....if he steps in the ring with joshua he gets knocked out
and wilder would not win a round against usyk and it would be embarrassing to watch him fumble around that ring trying to catch up with usyk.
wilder has been given to many breaks by so called boxing fans......he has been protected
I've said since day 1
Wilder was and still is a 1 trick pony.
He has the perfect last name.
Thing is, everyone knows his game plan and he still wins (with the exception of Fury of course)
I don't see anyone smaller than him beating him since it hasn't happened yet.
AJ before Ruiz, I'd say yes.
After Ruiz, hell fcking no.
Wilder isn't afraid to mix it up and eventually the right will land.
I'm more of an AJ fan but he is gun shy.
Wilder is the wrong guy to be timid with.
And once he's hurt, it's over.
Wilder has proven to get up and at least try to fight on.
It's an abysmal HW era we are in.
I don't see it ending anytime soon
Yea most top guys are from U.K but that’s because there’s more active fighters .
Theres usually around 50 active pro HWs in the UK at any one time. The US according to Boxrec has nearly 400 right now.
Well, I still wait for Fury to stop ducking Usyk.
Joshua lost to Usyk twice.
Joyce just lost to Zhang.
And I don`t rate Dubois. he will be a huuuuge underdog if he fights Usyk.
So, where is any domination?
Douglas, Schemeling, Bentt would absolutely wreck these present day HW bums.
Wilder is an American and I wouldn't claim him as anything great.
Yet, I don't see anyone not named Fury or Usyk who will beat him
That's how trashy this HW era is.
Wilder ? knocking over cans is easy which is what wilder has done his whole career....if he steps in the ring with joshua he gets knocked out
and wilder would not win a round against usyk and it would be embarrassing to watch him fumble around that ring trying to catch up with usyk.
wilder has been given to many breaks by so called boxing fans......he has been protected
Lennox is an atg hw why would you even bash him? That shows how little you know about the sport
I posted about him losing to McCall. That shows I actually do know a bit about the sport
You are extremely sensitive that you call that bashing.
Tyson lost to Douglas , Louis to schemelling , Morrison to bentt.......you’ve not had a decent heavyweight for over 20 years now so don’t get above yourself lol
Douglas, Schemeling, Bentt would absolutely wreck these present day HW bums.
Wilder is an American and I wouldn't claim him as anything great.
Yet, I don't see anyone not named Fury or Usyk who will beat him
That's how trashy this HW era is.
Dude stop. AJ loses to Ruiz. Joyce loses to Zhang. Go all the way back to Lennox losing to McCall.
British hwts are gonna get clowned when they lose to mid tier guys. Dont get your knickers in a twist. Tyson lost to Douglas , Louis to schemelling , Morrison to bentt.......you’ve not had a decent heavyweight for over 20 years now so don’t get above yourself lol
It doesn't really matter who's in the top 10 when there are only 3 or 4 good fighters in the whole division.
Anderson, Zhang, Hrgovic, DuBois, Joyce... I don't trust any of them at all. Parker, Ortiz, Ruiz, Pulev, and Whyte are all washed.
I just don't think British heavyweights are that good. And I was betting big on Joyce. A lot are seemingly riding on the division being slow as molassus. Other than Fury none of the others look like they're not on off night away from a loss to the likes of Zhang, Hrgovic, Hunter or a few others.
Again, I wonder whether it might be the fact that size seems important for being touted as a potential fighter. Whenever I see the Olympics, they often tout these 6ft6 guys who often get undone by smaller guys from EE or even the states. Don't be surprised that the two hot prospects there, Sanchez and Torrez end up taking a few scalps too. The UK still believes in this rigid, upright style which is being seriously undone in the division now. Its moved on.
Dude stop. AJ loses to Ruiz. Joyce loses to Zhang. Go all the way back to Lennox losing to McCall.
British hwts are gonna get clowned when they lose to mid tier guys. Dont get your knickers in a twist.
Lennox is an atg hw why would you even bash him? That shows how little you know about the sport
Dude stop. AJ loses to Ruiz. Joyce loses to Zhang. Go all the way back to Lennox losing to McCall.
British hwts are gonna get clowned when they lose to mid tier guys. Dont get your knickers in a twist.
Fury ran away from someone he calls a MW
The Brits owning the worst era in HW history is nothing to brag about.
There will be no HOFers from these bums.