For me...
Crawford
Spence
Davis
Wilder
Charlo, Jermell
Charlo, Jermall
Haney
Stevenson
Ennis
Fulton
Canelo
Why do you think that, what is a telling that guy is on peds?
This is why I respect GGG even more. He fought a younger, at peak, and suspected PED Canelo when he was already 35 y.o.
I understand the business part of boxing (as in other sports), however unlike other sports, professional boxing is losing it's sporting aspects. Family biz sanctioning bodies & promoters, lack of integrity, basically no new ideas to improve. No wonder we don't see champion vs. champion at their primes.
Sheesh.....when complementing GGG, it starts and ENDS with Nelo.
It's not Nelo's fault (or is it) that GGG is 8 years older :dunno:
Nelo would have been 22 when GGG was 30
Clean Fighters
Inoue
Lomachenko
Bivol
Golovkin
Chocalatito
This is why I respect GGG even more. He fought a younger, at peak, and suspected PED Canelo when he was already 35 y.o.
I understand the business part of boxing (as in other sports), however unlike other sports, professional boxing is losing it's sporting aspects. Family biz sanctioning bodies & promoters, lack of integrity, basically no new ideas to improve. No wonder we don't see champion vs. champion at their primes.
A good majority of them are juicing and eating egg salads.
But ugh to answer your question, lets see - Stank, Spencer, Charla sistas, Fury, Canelo, Nery, Big Baby Davis, AJ, Wilder, Haney, Benn.
makes perfect sense.
2 people came from the same genetic heritage should be similar in physicality. the reverse would be the outlier.
Terrible take. In fact, one of the worst I've seen here.
You literally argued that since his little brother isn't knocking dudes out, that means Naoya Inoue is on PEDs. That makes zero sense.
makes perfect sense.
2 people came from the same genetic heritage should be similar in physicality. the reverse would be the outlier.
Well, they have to be extremely severe, because we've seen that everyone off does not work. Heck, Canelo got a what? 6 month suspension? He must of laughed, thinking he had planned on not fighting for 8 months anyway. The severity would have to be YEARS worth of suspension. Almost equivalent to some kind of jail time to really understand, you're going to mess up your career, potentially lose some prime years, and of course those massive paychecks. Without the fear, there is less giving a **** if caught.
and of course, with top fighters awol who loses out apart from the fighters? The promoters. The belt orgs. The tv companies. The casinos and such. So even when there is blatant abuse of peds, as with Benn - the promoter tries to get him a fight in another jurisdiction.
not sound logic.
Floyd is a PED cheat 100%. you can make the case however, that PED's enhanced his abilities based on the fact that his uncle and father were not as good perhaps without the help of PEDs.
You literally argued that since his little brother isn't knocking dudes out, that means Naoya Inoue is on PEDs. That makes zero sense.
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And TBH IDGAF , people think that taking peds makes you some great athlete wrong !!!!!!!!. The work is still put in , top tier athletes are using peds more for recovery/ and dealing with injuries more than anything .
This is true too. PEDS do not just make you an unstoppable, unbeatable fighter. They supplement your abilities and skills. Example. If your ability is able to take a great punch, throw a lot of punches, but not do enough damage to your opponent, by adding cement to your gloves will greatly enhance your chance to win. :rolleyes:
If you can't box for sh!t and think that by adding PEDs to your body will automatically make you a great boxer, you're wrong. The skill still has to be there. Again, it is supplemental to your ability.
In something like weight lifting where skill is not so needed (any rock head can lift a weight), steroids are easy to get the benefit from. Just keep juicing up and stay in the gym, the benefits will show naturally.
thing is, it'd still be an uneven playing field because the better promoted fighters and more charismatic fighters could afford better peds. I think wht's behind yur wish is you want an even playing field? The only way you'll ever get that is everyone is OFF peds. Better testing and massive, but really massive penalties for getting caught - such as, but not limited to, returning all your purse from previous 3 fights or similar.
Well, they have to be extremely severe, because we've seen that everyone off does not work. Heck, Canelo got a what? 6 month suspension? He must of laughed, thinking he had planned on not fighting for 8 months anyway. The severity would have to be YEARS worth of suspension. Almost equivalent to some kind of jail time to really understand, you're going to mess up your career, potentially lose some prime years, and of course those massive paychecks. Without the fear, there is less giving a sh!t if caught.
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And TBH IDGAF , people think that taking peds makes you some great athlete wrong !!!!!!!!. The work is still put in , top tier athletes are using peds more for recovery/ and dealing with injuries more than anything .
You do use it to strengthen muscle too like using say HGH for example.
I don’t really care myself man, everyone is at it, most fellas at your local gym are using steroids.
However, when you get caught just man up and take it on the chin. The only thing that annoys me are the pathetic excuses they conjure up.
All of them. Literally every top athlete in the world today.
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And TBH IDGAF , people think that taking peds makes you some great athlete wrong !!!!!!!!. The work is still put in , top tier athletes are using peds more for recovery/ and dealing with injuries more than anything .
So let me get this straight...
PEDs = brutal punching power
If Lil Bro roided as well, he'd have as many KOs as Big Bro, but his dad said no?
And why wasn't Floyd, one of the biggest PED addicts of all time, KOing dudes left and right?
not sound logic.
Floyd is a PED cheat 100%. you can make the case however, that PED's enhanced his abilities based on the fact that his uncle and father were not as good perhaps without the help of PEDs.