Quick survey of the posters over this site. A sequel to the Canelo vs Ezzard Charles thread, where numerous posters here suggested that Canelo beats Charles.
https://www.boxingscene.com/forums/b...charles-via-ko
How does Canelo vs Matthew Saad Muhammad play out?
I got Saad Muhammad by TKO in 7 after outboxing Canelo and making him eat flush right hands over his t-rex jab. The TKO would be via exhaustion on Canelo's part due to the lack of conditioning that he's shown throughout his career.
I would take Saad by wide UD. Canelo is hard to drop let alone knockout, but he would take a lot of punishment in a one-sided beating.
I agree. Canelo doesn't have the reach, power, boxing ability, or gas tank to beat Saad Muhammad.
I cant understand why anyone would care about thinking about this scenario. Think ill go back to the p-orn site. At least it has more depth.
You can't understand it because you have a cerdo brain.
In the end, MAYBE MSM would beat Nelo
Maybe not
There is no way of proving either outcome
(why won't mods put these Fantasy Fights where they belong since NSBer can't locate that section :dunno: )
What would the outcome be if they fought at Nelos best weight ?
First, canelo is not a little guy. He's short, not little, Dwight Muhammad Qawi was/is shorter than him and he's the cash cow of boxing. Just like everyone wanted to fight floyd, that's what happening now with canelo. You see, that's what his fans always do, find a loophole to justify or excuse your idol. Why are you comparing ginger to a hypothetical "little guy"? Nobody put a gun on his head. I can mention a few that has done what he did, SRR, SRL, Roy Jones, Tommy Hearns, Duran, pacquio, Delahiya, Floyd. He ain't a pioneer.
Sooooooo, no names relevent to my question ?
What other "little guy" would it make financial sense for Kov to fight?
Kov fought Canelo because Canelo's the cash cow of boxing.
Canelo fought Kov because he saw he was a vulnerable old drunk who had a belt.
Now, what did any other "little guys" have to offer Kov to fight them? forget it about it, they have no common sense when it comes to canelo. I reply to him with different words, same meaning. They just awnser when they think is a hole in the argument. Again, no common sense.
Which little guy wanted to step to Kov with no CW ?!?!?
Got a link ???
First, canelo is not a little guy. He's short, not little, Dwight Muhammad Qawi was/is shorter than him and he's the cash cow of boxing. Just like everyone wanted to fight floyd, that's what happening now with canelo. You see, that's what his fans always do, find a loophole to justify or excuse your idol. Why are you comparing ginger to a hypothetical "little guy"? Nobody put a gun on his head. I can mention a few that has done what he did, SRR, SRL, Roy Jones, Tommy Hearns, Duran, pacquio, Delahiya, Floyd. He ain't a pioneer.
What other "little guy" would it make financial sense for Kov to fight?
Kov fought Canelo because Canelo's the cash cow of boxing.
Canelo fought Kov because he saw he was a vulnerable old drunk who had a belt.
Now, what did any other "little guys" have to offer Kov to fight them?
No little guy talked up a fight with Kov....I don't mind being corrected.
Why wasn't any other little guy eager to move up fight that version of Kov ?
What other "little guy" would it make financial sense for Kov to fight?
Kov fought Canelo because Canelo's the cash cow of boxing.
Canelo fought Kov because he saw he was a vulnerable old drunk who had a belt.
Now, what did any other "little guys" have to offer Kov to fight them?
It was about money, kovalev wouldn't have fought anyone, who else could have giving him the same payday? Team canelo took a calculated risk, they put all pros and cons on a balance. For them the risk was minimal, kovalev has just finished a grueling fight with a full camp and his drinking problems were well documented, plus past his prime. Truth be told, he(canelo) was not the first to do it and will not be the last, and I don't criticize hom for that. His fans are the ones to blame here, trying to elevate this one win as an out of this world victory, when it was just a test of the water kind of thing. Then he believed in own hype and got schooled by another LHW. Some of his fans and his team were salivating asking him to go up and face usyk, the funny thing is they believed he could win the fight, others are writing nonsense telling the world that boxing has "evolve". And I'm pretty sure it was a rehydration clause too.
Which little guy wanted to step to Kov with no CW ?!?!?
Got a link ???
Why wasn't any other little guy eager to move up fight that version of Kov ?
It was about money, kovalev wouldn't have fought anyone, who else could have giving him the same payday? Team canelo took a calculated risk, they put all pros and cons on a balance. For them the risk was minimal, kovalev has just finished a grueling fight with a full camp and his drinking problems were well documented, plus past his prime. Truth be told, he(canelo) was not the first to do it and will not be the last, and I don't criticize hom for that. His fans are the ones to blame here, trying to elevate this one win as an out of this world victory, when it was just a test of the water kind of thing. Then he believed in own hype and got schooled by another LHW. Some of his fans and his team were salivating asking him to go up and face usyk, the funny thing is they believed he could win the fight, others are writing nonsense telling the world that boxing has "evolve". And I'm pretty sure it was a rehydration clause too.
Dummy, Kovalev was past his prime AND a drunk and he was outboxing Canelo.
Why wasn't any other little guy eager to move up fight that version of Kov ?
Dummy, how has the sport "evolved" since Ezzard Charles?:rolleyes:
Charles was a legit 6ft tall with a 73 inch reach, speed, quickness, and strength and LEGIT 175lbs
Canelo's MAYBE 5'8 and a fake 175 with a 70 inch reach.
You can't even argue Canelo's bigger or stronger or quicker than Charles.
The only thing today's fighters have on Ezzard Charles is STEROIDS, which would explain your love of Canelo:luvbed:
Yet, so called IMPARTIAL fight ''fans'' are matching Nelo with naturally bigger men.
Has any other fighter raised the stakes as much as Nelo ?
Reminds me when people match May vs prime SRR, as if WW is the best version of May :lol1:
Why stop at 175 ???
Nelo vs Prime Chris Byrd @ HW :boxing:
Who you got ?
You dumbass noobs read a book about an old timer and think they're the best ever. Those old timers were primitive as ****. They would be nothing more than journeymen today. Open you're damn eyes the sport evolved big time since grandpa Charles. Canelo would **** his world up.
Nuff said.
Those "primitive" boxers will fight 10 times a year, and the sport hasn't evolve nothing, the jab still a jab, the hook is the same, the upper is the upper and the straight left/right is the same. What is this big evolution that you're talking about? And they all fought at their natural weight. Championship fights were at 15 rounds and they fought every second of every round. Evolved, evolved, that's bs. The heavyweight are bigger, but 175 is 175, they didn't have 155 back then, sorry 154. You had to fight in your real weight, not in some bs made up division. Charles, Moore and any champ from the late 70's and 80's would have mopped the floor with canelo. You know who canelo remind me, with less power and stamina, Martillo Roldan.
So ****in what he's bigger so was Kovalev, Callum and countless others and canelo whooped them.
Again for youre idiotic pea brain the sport has evolved Charles would be a Damn journeymen today nothing else.
Dummy, Kovalev was past his prime AND a drunk and he was outboxing Canelo.
There's not one historically great LHW that Canelo is beating.
Not Roy Jones, not Michael Spinks, not Saad, not Moore, not Charles.
Get over it.
I'm not sure he beats Prince Charles Williams at 175 :lol1:
Dummy, how has the sport "evolved" since Ezzard Charles?:rolleyes:
Charles was a legit 6ft tall with a 73 inch reach, speed, quickness, and strength and LEGIT 175lbs
Canelo's MAYBE 5'8 and a fake 175 with a 70 inch reach.
You can't even argue Canelo's bigger or stronger or quicker than Charles.
The only thing today's fighters have on Ezzard Charles is STEROIDS, which would explain your love of Canelo:luvbed:
So fuckin what he's bigger so was Kovalev, Callum and countless others and canelo whooped them.
Again for youre idiotic pea brain the sport has evolved Charles would be a Damn journeymen today nothing else.
Canelo hasn't had 5 goddamn fights at 175 and yall keep putting him in mythical matches with top guys that spent most of their career at the weight class. Hold up, I got a mythical matchup.... Mike Mccallum vs floyd mayweater at 154
McCallum all the way.
You dumbass noobs read a book about an old timer and think they're the best ever. Those old timers were primitive as ****. They would be nothing more than journeymen today. Open you're damn eyes the sport evolved big time since grandpa Charles. Canelo would **** his world up.
Nuff said.
Dummy, how has the sport "evolved" since Ezzard Charles?:rolleyes:
Charles was a legit 6ft tall with a 73 inch reach, speed, quickness, and strength and LEGIT 175lbs
Canelo's MAYBE 5'8 and a fake 175 with a 70 inch reach.
You can't even argue Canelo's bigger or stronger or quicker than Charles.
The only thing today's fighters have on Ezzard Charles is STEROIDS, which would explain your love of Canelo:luvbed:
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