The rulings are not always accurate but I always thought a TKO is when a fighter is beat the f up to the point it has to be stopped. Whether that is by the corner, ref, or fighter says he had enough.
A KO should be an actual fighter got dropped and cannot get back up. Whether the ref counts him out or not, I think both ways should be considered a KO because they've been immobilized.
Pac-Hatton (or Pac-Marquez for that matter), KO. What we saw this past weekend with Smith-Eubank (TKO).
- - Boxing interchanges KO and TKO without concern about definitions, one more reason fans flee the sport because it is so poorly regulated.
Boxrec lists a KO even though no ten count was performed and Wilder was conscious on the canvas. Yet they'll wave George who is clearly up while Zack Clayton is waving off the fight with 2 sec left in the round, another official KO. {"alt":"Click image for larger version Name:\tAli_Foreman_photo_Zac_Ref.jpg Views:\t0 Size:\t26.6 KB ID:\t31718663","data-align":"center","data-attachmentid":"31718663","data-size":"full","title":"Ali_Foreman_photo_Zac_Ref.jpg"}
I was thinking along these lines. There’s no real regulation in boxing. Fans can’t even depend on basic stats, let alone proper scoring. It’s unlike any other sport — almost like professional wrestling at times. At its best, boxing borders on the sublime; it it’s worst, it’s a really bad joke.
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What if the corner stops it between rounds like when Garcia couldnt see? Should they go to the scorecards? The ref didnt stop the fight and Tank didnt knock him out but it was still called a KO.
If a fighter can not continue, and it's due to punches, it's still a knock out. It should be simplified. Not all knockouts are equal, but a knock out is a knock out. TKO is just pointless confusion, and also up for debate in many instances, such as ref starts counting, but stops before 10 with a fighter on his feet. Nash out
A knock out is when the fighter does not make it up, for the count of 10.
Fury stopped Wilder in their second fight, and the third fight was Technical Knock Out 'If we are getting extremely specific'.
But most people would class, the fight conclusion as a Knock Out etc.
There are plenty of examples of same result but on paper ko or tko. E.g Fury Wilder 3 ref called it without a count and it went down as a KO. Povetkin put Whyte to sleep ref called it without a count, went down as a TKO. Pacman put Hatton to sleep no count, KO
Interesting, I hadn't noticed the inconsistency. I didn't remember the exact fights but I did have it in my head that some clean KOs go down as TKOs when the ref waves it off instead of finishing the count.
There are plenty of examples of same result but on paper ko or tko. E.g Fury Wilder 3 ref called it without a count and it went down as a KO. Povetkin put Whyte to sleep ref called it without a count, went down as a TKO. Pacman put Hatton to sleep no count, KO
- - Povetkin credited with KO of Whyte who was down and completely out for several minutes.
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The Great Nash believes it should be simplified. You get stopped, it's a KO, no questions asked. I mean, on records, it's points wins and knock outs, not points wins, TKO's, and KO's. Nash out.
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What if the corner stops it between rounds like when Garcia couldnt see? Should they go to the scorecards? The ref didnt stop the fight and Tank didnt knock him out but it was still called a KO.
I guess that settles it then. I didn't remember the official ruling but Wilder did look out.
There are plenty of examples of same result but on paper ko or tko. E.g Fury Wilder 3 ref called it without a count and it went down as a KO. Povetkin put Whyte to sleep ref called it without a count, went down as a TKO. Pacman put Hatton to sleep no count, KO
Boxing question was Wilder vs Fury 3 a KO or TKO? Some say it's a KO but the ref stopped it so shouldn't be a TKO?
Officially down as a KO. He was knocked out even if ref waved it out he waved it off correctly. Wilder was KOd hard face first. Even after he got up he was wobbling to his corner with help. This was the end that Breland saved him from yet he sacked the man who had been there with him for years because he was looking out for him, on top of that even accusing him to be part of the conspiracy.
The Great Nash believes it should be simplified. You get stopped, it's a KO, no questions asked. I mean, on records, it's points wins and knock outs, not points wins, TKO's, and KO's. Nash out.
Boxing question was Wilder vs Fury 3 a KO or TKO? Some say it's a KO but the ref stopped it so shouldn't be a TKO?
- - Boxing interchanges KO and TKO without concern about definitions, one more reason fans flee the sport because it is so poorly regulated.
Boxrec lists a KO even though no ten count was performed and Wilder was conscious on the canvas. Yet they'll wave George who is clearly up while Zack Clayton is waving off the fight with 2 sec left in the round, another official KO. {"alt":"Click image for larger version Name:\tAli_Foreman_photo_Zac_Ref.jpg Views:\t0 Size:\t26.6 KB ID:\t31718663","data-align":"center","data-attachmentid":"31718663","data-size":"full","title":"Ali_Foreman_photo_Zac_Ref.jpg"}
Boxing question was Wilder vs Fury 3 a KO or TKO? Some say it's a KO but the ref stopped it so shouldn't be a TKO?
I get what youre saying but look at when Manny got ktfo, ref waived it after realizing he was sleep. Wilder was done. Ref waived it off as in he was just ktfo
I've noticed usually when the guy goes down like that and the ref calls it because it looks like he's out for the count they call it a KO. It's a little different from the ref stepping in between them to stop it.