He appears to be a sluuger but watching his most recent fight against helenius and early fights before he became a champion he appeared to be more like an out-boxer. What his boxing style is he a slugger, out-boxer or both ?
He appears to be a sluuger but watching his most recent fight against helenius and early fights before he became a champion he appeared to be more like an out-boxer. What his boxing style is he a slugger, out-boxer or both ?
A slugger with limited boxing skill. He stays away because he usually can with his size and reach, but he is not a stand a trade type if guy, not with his suspect chin. I will say that his hand speed is good ( not great ) and he certainly has power.
So I classify him as a cautious type of slugger who has been in some close fights due to lack of offensive and defensive skills that coasts on his reach, height and power. He does beat any ring magazine of box rec young fighters, as such his resume is rather suspect.
It's a pretty unique style post Ortiz 1.
Forget the Fury 2 and 3 fights. That was just a desperate man.
In between he fell in love with his power and settled on a tactic of doing very little and just waiting for his chance to land one shot. At the level he fought, that worked. And it made him a top 5 fighter. Despite the claims he was exciting he was actually very dull to watch... until he landed his shot.
Not sure that style really goes any further in levels. The very best don't stand back and wait to be hit.
But yeah he's a boxer/puncher while not being much of a boxer.
Wilder's first fight against Stiverne he actually boxed very well. I think he could have been a decent boxer but he fell in love with his power and the rest is history.
Yes, now it is more like "it works until it doesn't" style
He's a right hand on legs.
He has one plan, stand there and wait until he can fling his right hand as hard as he can. Against the bums he's fought it works.
Against the 1 top HW with a chin he's fought it didn't work because the guy got up. And Wilder was fucking clueless when he did.
He is one of the worst boxers to hold the HW title in history. He can barely do the basics. His footwork is non-existent he has no combinations to speak of, he can't fight going backwards, he has no defence and he has zero inside game. He's just a garbage boxer with a right hand like a missile.
Wilder's first fight against Stiverne he actually boxed very well. I think he could have been a decent boxer but he fell in love with his power and the rest is history.
He appears to be a sluuger but watching his most recent fight against helenius and early fights before he became a champion he appeared to be more like an out-boxer. What his boxing style is he a slugger, out-boxer or both ?
One hit and you fall style. I know, such a rare observation and so intelligent. What a moron who made this thread.
What am I hearing from Scott is, they are looking for an "unknown" opponent, not named Ruiz, possibly. So they are going to try to duck the fight the public wants to see for some BS on PPV like Spence vs The Flute Player?
Wilder Ruiz will happen. So will Spence vs the flute player. 2 great fights worthy of ppv
Wilder is not a slugger, you cannot be a slugger without a developed inside game.
Wilder predominately fights from mid-long range. Wilder's style of fighting and power is least effective, the more his opponent closes the range.
Wilder tries in all honesty to be a boxer puncher. But due to his technical skills not really being elite or even world level? Things become chaotic.
Deontay Wilder does have a solid jab, but apart from that? Skill for skill his pure technical boxing ability is not elite.
Overall Wilder is a boxer puncher, who does not have elite level skills. But he has elite level power, extreme gameness and resolve.
I still rate Deontay Wilder extremely highly as a fighter.
Basically this.
He appears to be a sluuger but watching his most recent fight against helenius and early fights before he became a champion he appeared to be more like an out-boxer. What his boxing style is he a slugger, out-boxer or both ?
I wouldn't call him a slugger at all. Slugger is people who just come forward through wildly and a lot of punches like chisora maidana provodinkov. People make out like Wilder is wild he usually gets wild after he's hurt an opponents. Other than that you don't see him often start fight wildly trying to throw loads of punches whilst walking forward. He isn't the best boxer but he isn't as an awful boxer as most people make out either
Within this era of Heavyweights, I rate him extremely highly.
Although Wilder's all round boxing skills are not elite. He does have some elite attributes which are.
Punching Power, Gameness, Aggression, and I would also rate his Jab as elite.
There are not many better Jab's in the Heavyweight division. For sometime, I rated his Jab at number 2 behind Fury.
When you combined his strengths and his best attributes, with his near psychopathic aggression.
Stylistically, he is a dangerous Heavyweight for most of these Heavyweights around today.
To beat Wilder, you have to fight him a certain way 'Which involves inside game, rough house tactics'.
Due to modern Heavyweights lacking inside game, and having no idea what rough house tactics are.
For me this is specifically why Wilder is a top Heavyweight. In his own way he exploits his opponents.
Most Heavyweights want to box Wilder from mid-long range, and they will most likely take rounds off him. But the longer they stay fighting from this range, the longer then stay in the danger zone 'And that is precisely what Wilder wants'.
To beat Wilder you have to close down the range, because the less distance his power has to travel? The least effective it becomes.
But to fight this way, is going against most fighters instincts. Because you are moving towards potential doom.
More good points. And yes, Wilder has a great jab. At the end of those long arms, and with that height, it’s quite an asset. That power is the flamethrower. People can mock Deontay’s perceived lack of skills, his “windmill” and all, but when he unloads that bazooka, few live to tell the tale.
Good breakdown. I agree with most of what you say. Don’t know if I rate Wilder as highly as you do, but probably higher than many around here. I like Deontay’s grit and heart; and I think his power is ATG-level. He may not be all that great, but I’d argue those virtues to the end.
Within this era of Heavyweights, I rate him extremely highly.
Although Wilder's all round boxing skills are not elite. He does have some elite attributes which are.
Punching Power, Gameness, Aggression, and I would also rate his Jab as elite.
There are not many better Jab's in the Heavyweight division. For sometime, I rated his Jab at number 2 behind Fury.
When you combined his strengths and his best attributes, with his near psychopathic aggression.
Stylistically, he is a dangerous Heavyweight for most of these Heavyweights around today.
To beat Wilder, you have to fight him a certain way 'Which involves inside game, rough house tactics'.
Due to modern Heavyweights lacking inside game, and having no idea what rough house tactics are.
For me this is specifically why Wilder is a top Heavyweight. In his own way he exploits his opponents.
Most Heavyweights want to box Wilder from mid-long range, and they will most likely take rounds off him. But the longer they stay fighting from this range, the longer then stay in the danger zone 'And that is precisely what Wilder wants'.
To beat Wilder you have to close down the range, because the less distance his power has to travel? The least effective it becomes.
But to fight this way, is going against most fighters instincts. Because you are moving towards potential doom.
What am I hearing from Scott is, they are looking for an "unknown" opponent, not named Ruiz, possibly. So they are going to try to duck the fight the public wants to see for some BS on PPV like Spence vs The Flute Player?
Wilder is not a slugger, you cannot be a slugger without a developed inside game.
Wilder predominately fights from mid-long range. Wilder's style of fighting and power is least effective, the more his opponent closes the range.
Wilder tries in all honesty to be a boxer puncher. But due to his technical skills not really being elite or even world level? Things become chaotic.
Deontay Wilder does have a solid jab, but apart from that? Skill for skill his pure technical boxing ability is not elite.
Overall Wilder is a boxer puncher, who does not have elite level skills. But he has elite level power, extreme gameness and resolve.
I still rate Deontay Wilder extremely highly as a fighter.
Good breakdown. I agree with most of what you say. Don’t know if I rate Wilder as highly as you do, but probably higher than many around here. I like Deontay’s grit and heart; and I think his power is ATG-level. He may not be all that great, but I’d argue those virtues to the end.
He appears to be a sluuger but watching his most recent fight against helenius and early fights before he became a champion he appeared to be more like an out-boxer. What his boxing style is he a slugger, out-boxer or both ?
A really bad one
That windmill impression that he does is embarrassing. He says that there is method to his madness but I say he gets over excited and his lack of skill show.
Well that's the truth when it comes out. He goes to pounce on his opponent but in doing so, he's literally swinging his arms like they're flails during medieval times. Hoping that at the end of the chains, his fists will land... somewhere, anywhere, as long as they land.
Beat me to it.
You ever think they'll teach it in a boxing gym some day?
That windmill impression that he does is embarrassing. He says that there is method to his madness but I say he gets over excited and his lack of skill show.