Canelo-Bivol at 168 is a DISGRACE.

I'm not sure why you think because somebody is lucky, it means they weren't deserving. The money is what makes him lucky, he gets an easy fight(if you ask me) against a huge name opponent that earns him legacy and a big pay day. Luck is Canelo actually thinking he can win in a rematch. Canelo does not have to fight him and does not have a history of rematches outside of GGG. Canelo is probably the most watched boxer in boxing. If Bivol drops to 168, it is obviously for the cash. I'm not saying Bivol owes Canelo anything or that he didn't earn his in the ring. There is just a lot of uncommon things that when put together make him look pretty lucky to me, he gets to hit the lotto twice. He gets to hit the lotto twice cause he won. Same with Mosley against Oscar, Wright or Forrest against Mosley and so many other examples in boxing history.

As if Nelo is a natural 175er :lol1: !!! One must wonder who else is chasing greatness......

It make no sense. By that logic Ali didn’t deserve a rematch with Liston. :lol1: Bivol earned every penny by clearly beating Canelo despite being a 4/1 underdog. Canelo now has a loss he should want to try and avenge. Bivol isn’t lucky, he earned it in the ring. I'm not sure why you think because somebody is lucky, it means they weren't deserving. The money is what makes him lucky, he gets an easy fight(if you ask me) against a huge name opponent that earns him legacy and a big pay day. Luck is Canelo actually thinking he can win in a rematch. Canelo does not have to fight him and does not have a history of rematches outside of GGG. Canelo is probably the most watched boxer in boxing. If Bivol drops to 168, it is obviously for the cash. I'm not saying Bivol owes Canelo anything or that he didn't earn his in the ring. There is just a lot of uncommon things that when put together make him look pretty lucky to me, he gets to hit the lotto twice.

I doubt Bivol even makes 168. Yes, I believe he is about 182 on the fight night. But that doesn`t mean he can make 168. I've watched some of his training videos, and it looks to me like he starts his camps a little soft around the middle. So, he may walk around north of 190. He's a pretty ripped 182 on fight night. 168 may indeed be a bridge too far.

So basically, wah wah wah Bivol can’t move down, it’s not his weight class it’s not fair. While simultaneously lol Canelo can easily fight at 175. Sounds like excuses just in case Bivol accepts and loses tbh, not sure why it’s okay for one guy to fight where he’s deemed to be at a disadvantage but not the other. Why should Bivol move down?

Canelo's fighting weight as a younger man - in his early to mid 20s - what you yourself are calling his 'prime' was around 172 - 174Lbs (as attested by his unoffical weights from his early 20s) as a JMW. By his late 20s - 30 or so as a MW that will have increased slightly but also his ability to drain and rehydrate would also be diminsihed. Now in his 30s his fighting weight in the ring is in the upper 170s - if I had to guess somewhere about 178 - 180. Almost precisely in line with the sort of increase you'd expect in a heathy athletic male between 22 and 32. In fact contrary to your assertion that he 'got fat' he's actually maintained his shape incredibly well - gaining 4 or 5 Lbs of ring weight during 10 years of physical maturation is actually very good. And yeah... we really gonna go down the path of trading insults man? Thought we were just exchanging views. You like... menopausal or something? Roid rage maybe? {"alt":"Click image for larger version Name:\t3597162_l.jpg Views:\t0 Size:\t80.6 KB ID:\t31704265","data-align":"none","data-attachmentid":"31704265","data-size":"full","title":"3597162_l.jpg"} Look man - I know you're probably a boxing expert in your own head but to me you're just a random dude on the internet... you want my respect you're gonna have to earn it by presenting convincing arguments not by simply asserting that you know better. Just don't work like that with me.:dunno: I don’t know you either. I don’t care if you respect me. Don’t mean a damn thing. You know what you know and you don’t know what you don’t know. I cant make people understand cutting weight Or rehydration. Old men can’t cut so well. REAL fighters stay as close to their true fighting weight as possible. Are there exceptions? Of course, look at Pacquiao. Canelo is over bulked. That’s OVER WEIGHT. doesn’t mean he’s fat but it’s the same consequences.

Theyâre ALL SUPPOSE to dehydrate as small as they can and rehydrate as big as they can. That sheeit is nothing new. People bitching about that issue is like a football playing complaining that itâs too tuff. Stick with watching football, baseball or soccer. Itâs easier for you to comprehend. Bitching? Nah... Simply acknowledging the reality of it is all. Canelo's fighting weight as a younger man - in his early to mid 20s - what you yourself are calling his 'prime' was around 172 - 174Lbs (as attested by his unoffical weights from his early 20s) as a JMW. By his late 20s - 30 or so as a MW that will have increased slightly but also his ability to drain and rehydrate would also be diminsihed. Now in his 30s his fighting weight in the ring is in the upper 170s - if I had to guess somewhere about 178 - 180. Almost precisely in line with the sort of increase you'd expect in a heathy athletic male between 22 and 32. In fact contrary to your assertion that he 'got fat' he's actually maintained his shape incredibly well - gaining 4 or 5 Lbs of ring weight during 10 years of physical maturation is actually very good. And yeah... we really gonna go down the path of trading insults man? Thought we were just exchanging views like grown men. You like... menopausal or something? Roid rage maybe? {"alt":"Click image for larger version Name:\t3597162_l.jpg Views:\t0 Size:\t80.6 KB ID:\t31704265","data-align":"none","data-attachmentid":"31704265","data-size":"full","title":"3597162_l.jpg"} Look man - I know you're probably a boxing expert in your own head but to me you're just a random dude on the internet... you want my respect you're gonna have to earn it by presenting convincing arguments not by simply asserting that you know better and calling me names.:dunno:

So basically, wah wah wah Bivol can’t move down, it’s not his weight class it’s not fair. While simultaneously lol Canelo can easily fight at 175. Sounds like excuses just in case Bivol accepts and loses tbh, not sure why it’s okay for one guy to fight where he’s deemed to be at a disadvantage but not the other.

Id actually like to see it at 168 providing Bivol made the weight ok, he is not a real big LH and said he has been close in training at times, on that proviso, that he was ok with the weight I think it would be a much better fight, I agree I think Bivol has got his number, by the same token I think Canelo will be better at the lower weight and loss will fire him up. I just don’t see the fight being any closer The same can be said for Bivol , he might just be quicker and lighter on his feet

Montel Griffin 5'7 70 inch reach - 175 lbs Celestine Cabellero - 5'11 73 inch reach - 126 lbs The list goes on and on. Don't forget Qawi man and then you get guys like Fundora... Ah... I just noticed RJJ-94-02=GOAT beat me to it with Qawi ​

He’s got no chance at 175 or 168 Bivol will always have his number And honestly don’t need to see it again either Id actually like to see it at 168 providing Bivol made the weight ok, he is not a real big LH and said he has been close in training at times, on that proviso, that he was ok with the weight I think it would be a much better fight, I agree I think Bivol has got his number, by the same token I think Canelo will be better at the lower weight and loss will fire him up.

I doubt Bivol even makes 168. Yes, I believe he is about 182 on the fight night. But that doesn`t mean he can make 168.

I get that but it seemed to me that you lumped what idiots say on to guys now that have always said he doesn't belong at 175. Canelo cant beat Bivol at 175 he probably wont be able to beat him at 168 the style length and mobility is all wrong for him but at least at his weight he is not as sluggish and the loss might shrink his big head and get him back to working in fights instead of this terminator BS he has been thinking, I wouldn't fight Bivol again at 175 its a dumber move than it was making the first fight, ego is a dirty word. He’s got no chance at 175 or 168 Bivol will always have his number And honestly don’t need to see it again either

I never said that it mattered what the fans thought or believed or said But I do agree with you about him not fighting at 175 I get that but it seemed to me that you lumped what idiots say on to guys now that have always said he doesn't belong at 175. Canelo cant beat Bivol at 175 he probably wont be able to beat him at 168 the style length and mobility is all wrong for him but at least at his weight he is not as sluggish and the loss might shrink his big head and get him back to working in fights instead of this terminator BS he has been thinking, I wouldn't fight Bivol again at 175 its a dumber move than it was making the first fight, ego is a dirty word.

Some were even talking about Canelo vs Usyk. :lol1: Now suddenly he’s a Light Middleweight. It’s laughable. Exactly His fans have become the most annoying fan you have

It doesn't matter what fans say most don't have a clue, look at the fights and make up your own mind, in my eyes Canelo should not fight above 168, I think his best weight is 160, sure you can beat anyone at any weight if the timing is right but that doesn't mean you can beat everyone or you belong at the weight, Bivol was the pivoting point that proved he should not be at 175. If Canelo uses his brain instead of his ego, he should never fight at 175 again. I never said that it mattered what the fans thought or believed or said But I do agree with you about him not fighting at 175

Ffs they had him beating Beterbiev next and then onto heavyweight Just can’t makr this chit up Only Canelo nuthuggers can make this chit up Have you noticed how many of the nuthuggers aren’t on the site anymore or as often One that comes to mind is that Shadows Kunt guy and his chick body bagz or wtv he calls himself ( Franky is his name ) Read my sig....

Bivol won 7-5 on all three corrupt scorecards. He couldn't afford to take any rounds off vs. Canelo in Las Vegas. I didn’t stick around for the official announcement. I thought Bivol won the fight handily but it was Vegas so I’m not surprised.

Well well... Nelo thinks he can beat Bivol at 168... Bivol believes he can beat Nelo at any weight... I'm interested to see them fight @ 168...

He couldn’t beat him at 100%. Bivol is lucky to be getting a rematch at all because he beat him so soundly the first time. If Bivol was so worried about it last fight he should’ve taken a couple rounds off to make the fight closer. Now take this payday or kick rocks. Bivol won 7-5 on all three corrupt scorecards. He couldn't afford to take any rounds off vs. Canelo in Las Vegas.