well so far we have seen the ref in the andrade fight "miss" a legitimate knockdown, and the ref in the Ellis fight give 2 long counts to the house fighter. Had this been a Top Rank or Matchroom show, there would already be 30 or more threads talking about Bob or Eddie bribing the refs. But since its a PBC card I only see a few posts, and those are talking about the refs being incompetent, not corrupt.
what a surprise....... or not...........
and for the record, no I dont think Haymon bribed the refs. Nor do I think Bob or Eddie do it either. I just think there are alot of incompetent officials out there, and nobody ever does anything about it. But its just funny how if there is bad officiating on a Top Rank or Matchroom show, its automatically called corruption here. But when it happens on a PBC show then mysteriously its just bad officiating. lol
Your such a crybaby. OP has a real point. The refs from the Andrade fight going forward were absolutely corrupt and your over here crying "ain't pbc fault" when it seems pretty danm fishy.
Can you give us an example of when refs for 3 fights on the same card seemed like they were doing a terrible job? I doubt it. Crybaby
Creating a new name after being banned for racism is bad enough. Remaining an imbecile that cant read is worse.
Read the 2nd sentence in the last paragraph you quoted.
At no point did I post anything you are whining about.
The referee probably placed a bet on Andrade
he outright got dropped on his ass by some light punches to the body, the glass bodied chump
- dropped on his ass
- by some light punches
- by some random bum
it couldn't get more embarrassing for the part time boxer and his cheerleaders
Corruption is world wide in boxing it is not exclusive to just PBC or Just Matchroom or just Top Rank
it is events off air in which the Corruption is far worse and blatant
Villa got the when I mean WTF more can you ask for honestly`
The refs and judges in every city/state/country that is not under the Nevada or New York Athletic Commission show favoritism to the promoters house fighter 100% of the time, meanwhile in NY and NV it’s “only” 90%+ of the time.
The promoters are giving them work and bringing events into their state - In return these guys show favoritism to the house fighters. That’s how this works with every major boxing promotion that takes place in every country in the world and it’s been that way for 100 years.
… but it’s Al Haymons fault, right?
They're clearly fixing fights. Refs last night were on the take 100%.
I just dont believe that. I think its incompetence, and "house fighter" bias that causes it. I worked close to 100 shows as a promoter, co-promoter, and site coordinator and never once saw anything even remotely suspicious. Maybe in the 1950s bribing officials was common, but I just dont think it goes on these days. The REAL fix is in the matchmaking.......
No it wasnt was you forcing your usual anti PBC agenda. Youre lying again. Pro PBC posters dont just limit complaints to TR and Dazn.
The truth is guys like you do this just with PBC while lying about any fan that doesnt share your anti PBC bias.
I didnt post you accused PBC of bribing officials. I just cant understand how you havent gotten over the past and still push the anti PBC narrative for reasons we have discussed previously.
I dont have to bother pushing an anti-PBC agenda. What PBC has done to the sport in the past 5-6 years speaks for itself. Boxing has about as much credibility these days as WWE
But since its a PBC card I only see a few posts, and those are talking about the refs being incompetent, not corrupt.
I respect you a lot man but this is not a good take.
Everyone in the round-by-round thread was calling that out as blatantly corrupt behavior.
I don't know if they selected local refs but they were terrible especially in the Villa fight. In the Andrade fight the ref would not allow no infighting. The second they got close he will be calling break.
obviously the overall point went straight over your head. The post was about the PBC fanboys like yourself, NOT pbc in general. And I dont usually post about incompetent officials because I dont claim that the promoters have anything to do with it (PBC included), because in my opinion they dont. I challenge you to find a single post in my history that ever claims that PBC bribes officials. Hint: You cant.
No it wasnt was you forcing your usual anti PBC agenda. Youre lying again. Pro PBC posters dont just limit complaints to TR and Dazn.
The truth is guys like you do this just with PBC while lying about any fan that doesnt share your anti PBC bias.
I didnt post you accused PBC of bribing officials. I just cant understand how you havent gotten over the past and still push the anti PBC narrative for reasons we have discussed previously.
PBC is dead man. It's just Haymons fighters on Showtime again. Like they were before. Except now they have half of their original dates, the matchups all suck, and PPVs resemble HBO Boxing After Dark telecasts.
Tank just put 19k fans in an arena. That is more than any North American boxer other than Canelo can do.
You may not like the matches but clearly there is a market for them. They are also exploring a streaming deal. Lets see what happens.
well so far we have seen the ref in the andrade fight "miss" a legitimate knockdown, and the ref in the Ellis fight give 2 long counts to the house fighter. Had this been a Top Rank or Matchroom show, there would already be 30 or more threads talking about Bob or Eddie bribing the refs. But since its a PBC card I only see a few posts, and those are talking about the refs being incompetent, not corrupt.
what a surprise....... or not...........
and for the record, no I dont think Haymon bribed the refs. Nor do I think Bob or Eddie do it either. I just think there are alot of incompetent officials out there, and nobody ever does anything about it. But its just funny how if there is bad officiating on a Top Rank or Matchroom show, its automatically called corruption here. But when it happens on a PBC show then mysteriously its just bad officiating. lol
I agree. The ref in the Davis/Garcia fight was corrupt too.
Fury got a 21 second break in Wilder-Fury 1 after the last knockdown
Must be PBC
Thinks the counts I'm the last fights were way worse...if I'm wilder I can't get no sleep over it
PBC is dead man. It's just Haymons fighters on Showtime again. Like they were before. Except now they have half of their original dates, the matchups all suck, and PPVs resemble HBO Boxing After Dark telecasts.
those BAD cards back in the day most times were FIRE. These garbage PPV cards are more like USA Tuesday Night Fights quality........
Stop lying about the number of threads had this occurred in a TR or Dazn card to justify this thread.
Incompetent referees are on all platforms. You made this thread because of your anti PBC agenda. You don’t make threads like this when bad refereeing occurs on non PBC cards.
Bad refs are a common discussion amongst some posters. Others, like you, limit it to whichever network/group you dont like.
The anti PBC bias is old and stale. You make fair and correct criticisms about the refs last night. Making it about PBC makes you look bad.
obviously the overall point went straight over your head. The post was about the PBC fanboys like yourself, NOT pbc in general. And I dont usually post about incompetent officials because I dont claim that the promoters have anything to do with it (PBC included), because in my opinion they dont. I challenge you to find a single post in my history that ever claims that PBC bribes officials. Hint: You cant.
Fury got a 21 second break in Wilder-Fury 1 after the last knockdown
Must be PBC
It wasn't a long count watch it back and if he counted sooner Fury would of been up soon. What has that got to do with this anyway? guessing you are just being a sensitive little girl. Still crying about things from 4 + years ago.
Stop lying about the number of threads had this occurred in a TR or Dazn card to justify this thread.
Incompetent referees are on all platforms. You made this thread because of your anti PBC agenda. You don’t make threads like this when bad refereeing occurs on non PBC cards.
Bad refs are a common discussion amongst some posters. Others, like you, limit it to whichever network/group you dont like.
The anti PBC bias is old and stale. You make fair and correct criticisms about the refs last night. Making it about PBC makes you look bad.
That Ellis-Villa ref was terrible.
He even stood on the neutral corner, counting the KD, to confuse Villa from not standing there. Then stopped counting and told him to come to neutral corner, where he and fcked up Ellis were standing.
He stopped at 4 twice and gave Ellis two 15 counts.
Ref was trying to save Ellis so bad. But judges had other plans. I was happy af when Villa was announced the winner. Just because of the running, hugging and biased ref.