To be honest, Ruiz can be able to handle Wilder

Ruiz has very fast hands and I believe underrated power, but, I simply cannot get over how far the pendulum swung between the first Joshua fight AND the Arreola match. For all of his faults, I believe Wilder will stop Ruiz with a precise shot sometime in the initial 3rd of a contest, perhaps, even in the midst of trouble.

How was he protected? protected is Wilder going 9 years, 39 fights and 6 title defences without fighting a single elite opponent. Out of the "big 3" of HW ie AJ, Fury, Wilder its the American who took the least risks in his career, and yet hes had the most fights and been around the longest. The whole "Britain hypes its athletes" thing always cracks me up too. Because all it really means is they give a **** about boxing over there and will actually turn up to support their fighters. Thats a good thing. Boxing would be even less relevant than it currently is if it wasnt for the UK carrying more than its fair share of the sports remaining popularity. I agree, Wilder was absolutely protected for a long time. He did fight Ortiz twice when most of the rest of the division wouldn’t even k ce, but I agree much of Wilder’s career has been against unspectacular opposition. Regarding Joshua - he was paid and hyped as if he were an ATG, but he never was. Ricky Hatton was the same way. You see it in track as well, as athletes are well paid in Britain but less impressive internationally.

I don't like Ruiz's chances vs Wilder. When Ruiz fought AJ, AJ appeared mostly like a deer caught in headlights at times. He just wasn't all there. Wilder is crazy dangerous and in the moment always. He'll wait for those mistakes that Ruiz makes often. The arm length and speed of Wilder means he'll sneak in those brutal punches and I'm not sure Ruiz will get up the same way he did from the AJ punch.

Well as far as the UK was concerned he was the second coming of Joe Louis. He was a huge draw, and that’s fine for him, but he is a solid but unspectacular fighter. Britain simultaneously hyped and protects its athletes, in other sports too. It’s weird. I don’t see how he stands up to Lennox zLrwis, however. How was he protected? protected is Wilder going 9 years, 39 fights and 6 title defences without fighting a single elite opponent. Out of the "big 3" of HW ie AJ, Fury, Wilder its the American who took the least risks in his career, and yet hes had the most fights and been around the longest. The whole "Britain hypes its athletes" thing always cracks me up too. Because all it really means is they give a fuck about boxing over there and will actually turn up to support their fighters. Thats a good thing. Boxing would be even less relevant than it currently is if it wasnt for the UK carrying more than its fair share of the sports remaining popularity.

Within the UK he is an ATG though. I'm not saying he is in overall boxing history but as far British boxing history? he is one of the most successful UK HWs ever and probably the biggest domestic star/draw ever too. Well as far as the UK was concerned he was the second coming of Joe Louis. He was a huge draw, and that’s fine for him, but he is a solid but unspectacular fighter. Britain simultaneously hyped and protects its athletes, in other sports too. It’s weird. I don’t see how he stands up to Lennox zLrwis, however.

that has nothing to do with the fact Wlad was 41 and no huge deaL Was he a huge deal 17 months earlier when Fury beat him? what about when Wilder beat Ortiz who was as old as Wlad but nowhere near as accomplished and suspected of being much older than he claimed to be?

Who else is there for Wilder other than Ruiz for a PBC card?

I But he was hailed in Britain as an all-time great. For some reason the UK does this with their athletes. Within the UK he is an ATG though. I'm not saying he is in overall boxing history but as far British boxing history? he is one of the most successful UK HWs ever and probably the biggest domestic star/draw ever too.

And around the same time Wilder was having his 38th pro fight and 5th title defence against Gerald Washington. that has nothing to do with the fact Wlad was 41 and no huge deaL

stepped up to Wlad??he was 41 and coming off of a loss and a long layoff And around the same time Wilder was having his 38th pro fight and 5th title defence against Gerald Washington.

Ruiz has fast hands but slow feet, short reach and average reflexes. Wilder can probably outbox him like AJ did in the rematch (see Stevern first fight) but he will probably KO him if they ever fight. Yeah I said something similar in a different thread. Wilder seems to struggle with almost everyone though so I would be completely surprised if Andy beat him. More than likely it goes exactly like you say above though.

I don't know why people rated AJ so highly in the first place i've never understood it, he has never looked GREAT or worthy of number 1 spot i always ask this question not even as a hater just genuine. Who has AJ beaten in their prime? i can legit only think of Whyte/Parker who were never that great anyway. Beating 40 + year old "names/ghosts/shadows" doesn't entitle you to number 1 in the division. I agree. I think Joshua “looks” like everyone thinks the HW champ is supposed to look, with a physique like Michelangelo’s David. Joshua has fairly light feet for a man his size. His power, however, while solid, is no better than you would expect for a 250 pound boxer in his prime of life. However, he has been told that his power is his greatest attribute, which is clearly not true and causes him to take chances and expose himself to punches that he shouldn’t take. He is capable of making adjustments, moving his feet, and using his jab effectively as a big man should. He showed this in the Ruiz and Usyk rematches. But he clearly has limitations. He is not unusually fast or tricky. His chin is poor and will only get worse. I doubt this has anything to do with his training or his will to fight. It’s just his physiology. I doubt there is much he can do about it. Even in fights that he wins, his legs get buckled at least a couple of times. In other words, he is a good but not great fighter. But he was hailed in Britain as an all-time great. For some reason the UK does this with their athletes. Had he and Wilder fought five years ago as they should have, Wilder would have knocked him out completely. Today, Joshua probably would move more and would make the fight interesting, possibly a decision. Tyson Fury will beat him badly if they ever fight.

Ruiz probably has as good of chance as anyone. I would say him and Usyk have the best chance but its still 50-50 at best, probably less for Ruiz. Ruiz has quick hands on the inside. that is a good trait, he dont fight scared either. His best strategy is to close the distance with a high guard get inside and work AJ ro the body and try to take him out with an inside shot. Wilder needs distance for his power. Fury firgured that out and was still dropped multiple times executing that strategy. First fight he boxed wilder on the outside a lot more which works for him but hes like the only dude out there with a longer reach. Noone else can do that. Helenius tried to emulate Fury's blueprint and well like I said its a high risk strategy but really the only strategy.

Because he stepped up to Wlad and was consistently fighting top 10 opponents while Fury was pretending to be retired and Wilder was a decade strong still crushing cans in Alabama. I agree hes never looked all that indestructible but on resume at least it was pretty hard to have anyone else in the no1 spot from the time he beat Wlad to the time Fury got screwed by the judges in Wilder 1. stepped up to Wlad??he was 41 and coming off of a loss and a long layoff

Ruiz has a win over Joshua, that is better than any Wilder`s win. Ruiz looked like a crap against Arreola and Ortiz. That is true. But Fury also looked like a crap against Pianeta and Seferi and that is exactly why Wilder fought him. Many fighters fight at the level of their opponents. Bivol, Fury. Maybe is Ruiz also that kind of fighter. Ruiz`s hand speed will be the problem for Wilder. So if Wilder beats Ruiz you’ll give him credit? Right?

Arreola and AJ 2 rained right hands on Ruiz all night. Safe to say Wilder at 215-20 is quicker than them and has a far far far superior right hand. Night, night!

Yeah, Wilder has many imaginary wins. In theory he knocks out nearly everybody. What a shame, his best win is old Ortiz. Ruiz vs Wilder might actually happen, so it's not as if I'm pretending Wilder can beat Jack Johnson. Hopefully he fights AJ too, this mess needs to be addressed and years worth of crow will be served :boxing:

He also has quite the sturdy chin Have you ever seen Ruiz hurt? me neither he got dropped HARD by Joshua in the first fight, he got back up quickly and was immediately firing bombs back, as if nothing happened, to the point it was AJ who ended up with his ass on the canvas instead Ruiz has a very good chin and his recuperative abilities are probably on pair with Fury's he might be one of the few guys who can actually take Wilder's power and fight back with counters and combos If Ruiz brings his A game, Wilder might be in trouble We've all seen Ruiz hurt! But you're right that he does have a solid set of whiskers on him. He can fight Wilder back, but he doesn't have the length Fury has to get to Wilder so frequently. Anything can happen in the ring, but gun to your head, who would you pick?

The argument is basically Ruiz beat AJ and he has fast hands... I could get into the point of fighters fighting down to their competition, but then that discredits your point about Ruiz beating AJ... He also has quite the sturdy chin Have you ever seen Ruiz hurt? me neither he got dropped HARD by Joshua in the first fight, he got back up quickly and was immediately firing bombs back, as if nothing happened, to the point it was AJ who ended up with his ass on the canvas instead Ruiz has a very good chin and his recuperative abilities are probably on pair with Fury's he might be one of the few guys who can actually take Wilder's power and fight back with counters and combos If Ruiz brings his A game, Wilder might be in trouble

The argument is basically Ruiz beat AJ and he has fast hands... I could get into the point of fighters fighting down to their competition, but then that discredits your point about Ruiz beating AJ... AJ is a tremendous heavyweight and 100% elite in this era. However, he's not the heavyweight benchmark. Ruiz beat AJ once, and that was a great win but it says nothing about his ability to handle Wilder. Ruiz has fast hands but slow feet, short reach and average reflexes. Wilder can probably outbox him like AJ did in the rematch (see Stevern first fight) but he will probably KO him if they ever fight. Wilder would very likely KO AJ too. Yeah, Wilder has many imaginary wins. In theory he knocks out nearly everybody. What a shame, his best win is old Ortiz.