Wilder should take the 12.5 mil. AJ is more athletic than Lebrun etc etc. AJ makes millions…guys should take whatever he offers. You were sky high lol…. You couldn’t tell them anything, lmao.
But then AJ lost to Ruiz. You gave him every excuse in the book, and after he won the rematch..you were back on the wagon. But the real AJ came out after his 3rd loss. Throwing the belts, salty as hell. A true weirdo. He’s made a lot of money, but he just isn’t good. I told you a long time ago that he couldn’t fight inside and that’s why he wouldn’t become great. He’s a fucken bum. But he does rematches so he does get points for that.
AJ was never as good as his fans thought he was. We knew who Wilder was. He was a guy many of us didn’t think would go as far as he did. You knew Wilder too. He wasn’t one of our best heavies, but he did good and pretty much over achieved for a guy who started late and never learned to fight inside. You guys were calling Fury a bum when he came out of retirement to fight Wilder. Scared that Wilder would ko Fury. Even when I backed Wilder, I knew he was a dangerous fighter for Wilder if he came in shape.
Wilder career wise was doing very good…until he ran into Fury who is a very good and complete fighter. Then Wilders flaws were exposed. Couldn’t fight inside. You even had criticism for Fury after the draw with Wilder. A,J would beat his ass. How do you feel about AJ Fury now? Wilder and AJ had major flaws. The only difference is, is that you AJ fans didn’t believe that AJ had any, lmao.
Shall I grab ya quote from before The fight? You are a hardcore AJ fan but your fickle so now ya trying to separate ya self from ya statements. What a coward bro.
I can’t believe how your agenda has swapped after being so adamant AJ would win. You’ve avoided me because it was me you wanted to hear tell you usyk will win.
Hold ya hands up and admit you were the furthest thing from correct.
dimwit.
I thought Joshua would win, I am far from a hardcore Joshua fan. Hardcore fans do not see the flaws in a fighter, and are obsessed with accepting everything they do.
David Haye was my fighter, since his retirement 'I have not really built a rapport with any other fighter'.
I have criticized Joshua many a times, and I have always rated Tyson Fury as number 1 'Although I criticized his abilities and attitude as well'.
If I think Joshua can win a fight, I will state it 'If I don't? I will state that as well'.
If I make a prediction, I will back it with conviction.
Definitely not distancing myself from Joshua mate, check my recent posts if you want.
Note: Although I rate Fury as number 1, that is on Merritt. I still believe he is beatable, for sure.
Fact of the matter is, the game moves on. People move on, and fighters move on. Joshua is moving on mate. A new Chapter in his career etc.
They compared him with Ali. :lol1: If Fury didn't retire, that big stiff idiot would never be man in the division. He is modern Frank Bruno as physically and mentally.
Basically this
he’s only ever been considered arguably number 1 when Fury was gone from the sport and maybe a few months into Fury’s comeback when he was still doing the tune up fights against the stiffs.
All the world title belts he’s ever owned were the ones Fury never lost in the ring.
But the reality is everyone finds their level. It’s absolutely no coincidence that the guy that took the belts from the best of the last era is still considered number 1 today, even after having 3 years out in the middle.
AJ is a good fighter, not elite. He’s had easy touches to win the belts he did. Fought some good recognisable names at the right time.
Man some of you american fans are so insecure its crazy. You wish Wilder would be a bit more like AJ. A worldwide star who fills stadiums and fights everyone yet you are stuck with this protected clown Wilder. The funniest **** is that after Wilder ducked AJ for years he is still ducking him now and all his remaining, gullible fangirls have to come up with more excuses for him. AJ is still top 3 at Heavyweight and one of the biggest attractions in boxing. He will still bring some exciting fights, he just lost to a generational talent in Usyk.
Joshua was always a fucken bum. When he did t fight Wilder that’s when I knew he had heart problems. Hearn shouldn’t take any shit from that clown anymore
I didn't need the search function. Dunno how it works. But I do have a memory and i vividly remember you was annoying as schit posting pro Wilder trash every other day then you disappeared when he lost :lol1:
Stop lying lmao…. You tried to use the search and saw how I responded about all 3 heavies, and now you’re going on MEMORY lol…:rofl:
GLAD AJ and Wilder fans now have to STFU actually!
Always maintained that BOTH was Overrated so this was EXPECTED for me, never bought the hype, now that doesn't mean they're not fun to watch and that doesn't mean they shouldn't fight each
They will most likely be back, the hardcore fans that is. Myself I am not hardcore Joshua fan, but to a degree I want him to do well.
The odds are that, Fury & Usyk are not really staying around in the game long. I can remember David Price stating at a press conference one time? I don't think these guys would still be in the game, if they had been what I have been through.
I sense that Fury has to win in order to stay in the game, if he loses to Usyk 'Can he comeback, can he deal with that? No idea'.
I have always maintained, and still maintain that Joshua is going to out last them.
I can envision Wilder, Joshua, Joyce, Hrgovic, Sanchez, Ruiz Junior or Ortiz being the main titles challengers going forward etc.
I can also envision Joshua's up and coming fights, probably being more interesting and captivating than his title fights 'Joshua is a contender now, different kind of jeopardy'.
GLAD AJ and Wilder fans now have to STFU actually!
Always maintained that BOTH was Overrated so this was EXPECTED for me, never bought the hype, now that doesn't mean they're not fun to watch and that doesn't mean they shouldn't fight each
Man some of you american fans are so insecure its crazy. You wish Wilder would be a bit more like AJ. A worldwide star who fills stadiums and fights everyone yet you are stuck with this protected clown Wilder. The funniest shit is that after Wilder ducked AJ for years he is still ducking him now and all his remaining, gullible fangirls have to come up with more excuses for him. AJ is still top 3 at Heavyweight and one of the biggest attractions in boxing. He will still bring some exciting fights, he just lost to a generational talent in Usyk.
Sorry, but my post history that you searched says otherwise lol…!!!:lol1:
I didn't need the search function. Dunno how it works. But I do have a memory and i vividly remember you was annoying as schit posting pro Wilder trash every other day then you disappeared when he lost :lol1:
When it was all taken away from him, he cried and whined like a spoiled brat.
I didn't need the search function. Dunno how it works. But I do have a memory and i vividly remember you was annoying as schit posting pro Wilder trash every other day then you disappeared when he lost :lol1:
Somebody doesn’t understand the Ageing process in athletes on top of ring rust at age 41/42.
Put you’re head back in the sand after you’ve read this matey.
So you’re saying Wlad went from his dominant prime to well past prime in 16 months? Which included training camps for the rematches Fury ducked, so it’s not as if Wlad wasn’t training. If Fury had taken the rematch and won, would you still be saying Wlad was well past prime? I think we both know the answer to that.
I don’t like AJ, and Hearn is a slimy salesman. AJ will barely be remembered in the big scheme of things but he made a fortune so fair play to him.
However, the facts are also that Fury has 2 good wins his entire career, wasn’t interested in fighting anyone else ranked in between those fights, and he’s no ATG with that resume. Lost his pen to sign for the undisputed fight but found it again to fight Wilder. He might not be overrated, but we’ll probably never know.
I always found it a bit weird that some people care so much about what other people think. Get so annoyed that somebody else has a different opinion about how good a boxer is. It's a strange one.
They compared him with Ali. :lol1: If Fury didn't retire, that big stiff idiot would never be man in the division. He is modern Frank Bruno as physically and mentally.When it was all taken away from him, he cried and whined like a spoiled brat.
I remember OP being on top of the world when Wilder was champ claiming he was ATG
Then fury happened and he went AWOL for a while. Sorry, but my post history that you searched says otherwise lol…!!!:lol1:
you guys hyped him through the roof :lol1: :lol1: remember all the americans had him KO'ing fury, joshua and usyk within a few rounds, the only one apparently who could offer a good fight was old king kong ortiz lol
You know he was a AJ fan!!!:lol1:
you got it wrong big guy. You was all for Joshua an what he is gonna do. He loses and you pull this out you’re backside?
Get a grip. You aren’t understanding it yet are you? People are upset with Joshua conduct post fight. And rightly so.
We as paying fans have had to put up with his and eddies shenanigans for way too long. Conning fans, ignoring fans, there’s so much they do, but how about them Never giving us the undisputed fight when they could of for a few years!?
Like thinking they will dictate to everyone involved in boxing. They’re diva tantrums when held accountable for their actions and so much more.
It’s the Anthony Joshua Fans who are much more intolerable and are the ones who people dislike. People dislike that toxic fanbase more than they do AJ or Eddie. they defend The most disgusting Actions of Joshua no matter what and have no intention in healthy debates.
These guys are beyond stupid. Incapable of learning anything and have a condescending attitude about every single thing. They don’t contribute nothing in this forum besides bashing every heavyweight fighter who isn’t Joshua. And only popping up on Joshua threads to proclaim the man walks on water. Besides from that, they’re rude, arrogant and down right Disrespectful on here. They’re brainwashed and refuse to see anything from someone else’s POV.
People like myself and many others online have roasted the fanbase far more than they have Joshua. So if you aren’t a Joshua fan at all, why do you care, if you haven’t got a horse in this race, why would it trigger you’re emotions? Do you mind me asking this.
Trolling trolls and holding them accountable for all their Years of stupidity should happen more frequently.
TLDR: Eddie, AJ and their fans all need to understand that Popularity doesn’t equate to greatness INSIDE THE RING.
They used AJ Commercially brilliantly it’s amazing the venues he’s sold out well done. But nobody cares about that stuff too much in the history books.
hence why mayweather cares more about his PPV and money exploits far more than the consensus of boxing fans do.
If I see behavior which I disagree with on principle, I will if I can be bothered? Let people know that I disagree. I have disagreed with the weasel like opportunistic behavior during the fall-out to the fight 'That is how I see it'. Knocking a man while he is down, and trying to make out something really bad has been exposed 'When in reality nothing bad has been exposed, as I have explained in the post you have just quoted'.
There are fighters I want to do well, but they are not on the level where? I will be devastated if they lose. To be honest, very close to this fight. I started to think more deeply about the match up, and for a split moment I thought to myself 'In the whole greater scheme of things, is there a worthy winner? And then I could not envision how Usyk was going to be denied 'For a split moment'.
This state I was suddenly in had nothing to do with boxing. I did not really enjoy the fight build up, or even fight itself.
I am not distancing myself from Joshua, when he fights next? I will watch his fights, and keep it real. I can see what type of fighter he is, and know where he needs to improve.
I did not like the fall out, and I also did not like how Joshua behaved 'But I knew he was suffering'. It is clear to see that he was all over the place, even the look in his eyes was conveying this etc.
What bothered me most was, him stating that 'He is not a 12 round fighter because he is 18 stone'.
You would never ever hear something so non-optimistic like that said by David Haye.
From what I can see Joshua is still obsessive, and he is probably going to obsess over trying to improve. I don't know where this next Chapter leads to? No idea.
Note: Fan bases these days to tend to be all or nothing. You can say the same for Fury's hardcore fans. I am unsure who I will back in the Fury vs Usyk match up.
Listen I know boxing fans are always going to be harsh critics 'I think this is apart of boxing culture'. Do I really want to phase this out entirely, maybe not, because sometimes boxing has these situations because of passion 'And I am all for passion'. But regarding this fight, I just think the fall out has been overly dramatic, and people have been very opportunistic towards Joshua.
- - U never thought U was a sissy like Deyonce, but there U go proving it.
I guessin' U be pre adolescent.
Waah? :rolleyes: Do people even speak English on this forum anymore? The last couple people who quoted me could barely write a proper sentence. Wtf is going on with this generation or this forum? rofl. Sorry buddy, but if you can't speak English, you can't even hang at my level.
You seem to be one of the only one that have their head on straight here lol.
the current fighters I support are tim tsyu, jermell Charlo,Brandon Figueroa, Joe Joyce,canelo Alvarez,Dimitry bivol, Virgil Ortiz, Emanuel navarrete, and plenty of others .
Cheers. Interesting fall out to the weekends fight anyway, very dramatic.
I did not actually enjoy the build up, or fight. It was not my kind of match up.
I have more enjoyed Davis vs Romero, Fury vs Wilder III, Eubank Junior vs Williams.
These are the fights, I have mostly enjoyed recently. I like overt passion, and raw competition.
Joshua & Usyk are admirable fighters, they say some respectful things. Because sometimes, I just want to witness really aggressive competition 'Inside and outside the ring'
It will be interesting what tone Fury dictates towards Usyk. Is Fury going to be friendly, or is he insulted that masses of people genuinely believe Usyk can beat him.
I rate Usyk, and I like him as a fighter. I never used to rate him very highly at all, that all change after the first Joshua fight.
I still think he has no inside game, or at-least has not shown us it etc.
It is sport you win some, you lose some. All part of the journey, all part of the adventure and battle. It is the same way with life.
Nobody has been exposed. Anthony Joshua lost a fight, over 12 rounds on points 'Big deal'.
All these fighters people claim are fraud and are being exposed. Are the very same fighters you all talk about everyday, ponder about in your everyday life, and you are envious of them.
I think it is Joshua's critics who were really exposed on the weekend.
The best one is the people saying things like
'FINALLY, we see the real Anthony Joshua'
''We have got him, finally his mask as slipped'.
Yes and what did it reveal? A frustrated man who is a bit all over the place in the moment 'Wow, big deal'.
Nobody will obsess over the Usyk fights, because that is not the nature of most people in society these days 'It is about what is happening now'.
The only people who may try and obsess about it are, Joshua's critics, who vicariously live through the opponents that beat him, or in general anything negative that happens to him etc.
Me personally I am not a particular big Joshua fan, I am not a big fan of any boxer. My fighter was David Haye, and since his retirement? I have not really built a strong rapport with any other fighter. I was not devastated on the weekend, I was more disappointed in the fall-out 'It was quite a fall-out to the fight I will admit that'.
I think actually not having the titles and being able to work away from being in that spot 'Is actually a good thing for Joshua's career now'. We are entering into a new Chapter, where this chapter leads? Well that is what we are about to find out. It will be interesting to watch, does Joshua maintain his motivation? Does he will still believe that he can be the best? Or will he just keep things to himself and fight? All apart of the journey, if you are a real hardcore Joshua fan.
Mike Tyson was not a Champion for long periods of time in his career, I still watched his fights, and was still taken on a roller coaster 'As were many'.
It is just the game, nothing has been exposed, it is just the nature of the game, the nature of life.
Note: So to conclude, what has really been exposed is the critics. And the fact that some boxing fans seem to be glory hunters. This is not a mandatory, but if you like? I would like people to tell me on this thread, which fighters are they fans of? I want to see what they say, quote me and give me a list of current fighters that you support? I wonder if they have been exposed and lost any fights, if that is what you think exposure is etc.
You seem to be one of the only one that have their head on straight here lol.
the current fighters I support are tim tsyu, jermell Charlo,Brandon Figueroa, Joe Joyce,canelo Alvarez,Dimitry bivol, Virgil Ortiz, Emanuel navarrete, and plenty of others .